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Republicans continue on their quest to destroy everything the U.S. stands for.

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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by lrak2
 


The very first people Hitler took out were the Union leaders.

That is how evil operates.

That is the very reason Bush family and cohorts financially backed Hitler in the first place.



Ya, Hitler took out the union leaders and the communists funny enough.




posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 10:59 PM
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The first things to go were consumer, financial, and employee protections!



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 10:59 PM
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And they survived how long?

And how homogeneous were they?

These experimental blips on the political landscape don't really offer much in practical terms about either understanding such dynamics and structures nor about predicting more than failure for such.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:00 PM
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I won't even bother voting. None of the Republican candidates represent me and Obama is a war president. However, if I had to, I'd vote for Obama.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by mastahunta
 


I'm beginning to wonder if we have enough of a common vocabulary to have anything close to a dialogue.

I'm shocked at the lack of historic awareness on this thread.

And the DAFFYNITIONARY seems to be the only reference for word meanings for the socialists hereon.


Ok, tell us

If I am trying to interfere with big business, because I believe in curtailing the power of
multi national corporations, how am I on the side of the NWO and the like?

How is that even remotely logical to you?



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Dodged the question, and think you fooled someone. That was a failed attempt.

What the ICBs are trying to create, and people like you are helping them, is a new style of aristocracy, where wealthy elites rule over the planet, and everyone else is a slave, except skilled trade people who manage to reach a state of freemen.

Still waiting for your example of a "Free Market economy".



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Vote for the no namer, send a message that way as if the no namers have at least 20 Million votes total that'll make the establishment's collective head do a spin and a double take!
edit on 11-12-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 


Oh Lord 3rd eye, how can you not know this?

www.tampabay.com...


Unless it breaks the partisan gridlock, Congress is poised to hand middle-class Americans a bigger tax bill next year. If the payroll tax holiday is not renewed by the end of the year, taxes on the average American family would go up by about $1,000, endangering the nation's fragile economic growth. But even as the clock ticks down, congressional Republicans refuse to entertain the Democrats' reasonable proposal that the tax cut be paid for through a small income surtax on millionaires.




Oh dear! How can you not know what liars and fakes Pelosi, Reid and Obama are?


Cynical perfection from The One, who’s been waiting for weeks to deliver this Orwellian bit of election messaging. His topic is the standoff in Congress over last year’s payroll tax cut; the GOP wants to extend the cut and offset it with new spending cuts, Democrats want to actually increase the cut (there’s an election coming up, y’know) and offset it with — ta da — a new surtax on millionaires. Obama and Reid know Republicans won’t accept that, which they want you to believe means the GOP prefers to see the payroll tax revert to its previous higher rate, which in turn means Republicans hate middle-class families just like Paul Ryan hates your grandma and wants her to die. Here’s O’s presser today making sure the media understands the basics of the narrative.


So transparent is the Democratic strategy of setting Obama up with yet another “do-nothing Republicans/party of the rich” campaign talking point, in fact, that Reid didn’t even bother to round out his newest proposal with provisions on unemployment benefits and “doctor fix,” both of which are expected to be part of any final compromise package. They know the millionaire surtax is a likely nonstarter and that Republicans will block this newest offer too; forcing them to block it is the whole point, in hopes of impressing upon white working-class voters who increasingly are voting GOP to take a second look at Dems as the blue-collar party. All of which would be fine as a simple matter of political hardball if not for the surreal hypocrisy of O lecturing the right on taxes when in fact Obamanomics makes middle-class tax hikes a fait accompli sooner or later — although certainly no sooner than election day, natch. His party opposes spending cuts of every sort except, of course, to defense, and gutting the Pentagon won’t get us remotely close to even budget-wise. Neither will new taxes on the rich, even at dramatically higher rates. If you want a robust entitlement state, you’ve got two choices: Squeeze the middle class or keep borrowing and wait for the Greece scenario to unfold. Or you could, I guess, do both. It’ll be much easier to sell those middle-class taxes in the midst of a fiscal meltdown.


hotair.com...



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:02 PM
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It is demonstrable that

1. voter fraud is double on the Dem side what it is on the GOP side.
2. Election fraud is probably roughly the same in terms of money laundering and donations etc.
3. Political enrichment schemes are rampant on both sides but have been a super entrenched way of life on the DEM side for many decades. Chicago is a long standing case in point. The Kennedys are another. Johnson is another. The corruption on the DEM's side makes the GOP examples seem like kindergartners by comparison.

Besides, it's the globalists evil elite behind both sides and leading the pack in the worst corruption.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b

Still waiting for your example of a "Free Market economy".


Prision gangs, Somalia, The Amazon and the Mexican Drug cartels!
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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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As I said, they were both crushed brutally. The Paris Commune was decimated in 3 months by reactionaries, but it showed for a brief period how direct democracy could function in practice.

The Anarchists in Spain had to face a combination of republican, nationalist and communist forces that sought to destroy them. They also showed how direct democracy could function. Read George Orwell's "Homage to Catalonia" where he describes his experience fighting on the side of the Anarchists.

Both movements faced extremely difficult conditions, it would have been interesting to see how they would have done if the conditions were more favourable.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by poet1b
 


It is demonstrable that

1. voter fraud is double on the Dem side what it is on the GOP side.



And that electoral engineering and rigging of vote counting implements are 80 fold on the
GOP side! Don't like that government unless you can use them to disenfranchise the marginal
and the poor! Very anti elite, BTW



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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Looks like you stumbled on a clue.


They will rule a bastardized form of Marxism wedded to a monopolistic bastardized form of capitalism. There's not a blessed thing you can do about it.


That "monopolistic bastardized form of capitalism" is free market economics, which is essentially the same as Marxism.

I have been pushing this point for about a decade now.

And there is plenty that we can do about it, and are doing about it.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:20 PM
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You're a very confused, brainwashed sheoplized robot my friend. What blows me away is how you people on the left can't and refuse to read between the lies that are right there in front of you.

Robot, Get this straight so that you understand once and for all (I know that's wishing for a miracle.) Both parties are controlled by the same masters of puppets. You need only look at the policy in the middle east that your hero Obama has continued, and even intensified even more. You poor misled confused yes man android you. They play you foolish mortals like a fiddle. I can't even fathom how in this day and age, with the freedom of the internet, that you're still falling for the left vs right game that is only meant to herd folks like yourself together for the slaughter.

You Poor guy. Hopefully you will take the blinders off and just focus on being an American while opening your eyes to the divisionist tactics that are used against all of us citizens. ~SheopleNation


edit on 11-12-2011 by SheopleNation because: TypO



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
What are you saying, workers are not people?

Read my quotes in from the constitution, it clearly states the purpose of the government to protect the rights of the people, and workers and consumers are people.


So, I take it "the people" means "the people", right? What about "...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Does that apply to "the people", or just the government?



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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The repub answer to middle class tax cuts remains the same, "screw the middle class".

Which makes it very clear, republicans will always put the middle class on the back burner in favor of the super rich.

Unless you are rich, you are a fool to vote for the republicans.

The vast majority of tax revenue for the fed gov comes from the middle class, while the vast majority of tax revenue goes to the super rich, top .001% of earners. That is economic wealth redistribution, and repubs have pushed for this every step of the way.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:25 PM
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Definitely applies to the people, and that includes workers as well as business owners.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by navy_vet_stg3
 


Definitely applies to the people, and that includes workers as well as business owners.



Yup... I agree



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by SheopleNation
. I can't even fathom how in this day and age, with the freedom of the internet, that you're still falling for the left vs right game that is only meant to herd folks like yourself together for the slaughter.


Yet, you lead into this moral castigation with

"What blows me away is how you people on the left can't and refuse to read between the lies"



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 11:30 PM
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The points me, you and him are making are all apart of the complex spiderweb that The SCUM keep everyone confused through! In essence, we all are correct but see individual problems that are all in reality apart of the same agenda!



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