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Republicans continue on their quest to destroy everything the U.S. stands for.

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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by lrak2
 


I'd say Obama is a classic liberal elite, which is just a different breed of conservative.

At this point in time, I think the obvious goal of republicans is the destruction of representative government, and the total elimination of individual rights.


More abjectly outrageously absurd assertions.

Evidently you have not been alive the last 5 decades.

Virtually EVERY

--overt restriction on individual rights, (perhaps with the exception of the Bush's);
--increased unfitting and unfair taxation,
--destruction of our military preparedness and stocks;
--increases in numbers and classes of people sucking up to the public trough;
--obliterations of small businesses and small business incentives as well as small farms;
--neutralizing of rational voting rights and increases in ignorance and NON-CITIZENS as major voting blocks;
--destruction of right to work laws and accompanying obliteration of individual worker voting rights at the implementation of guaranteed 'labor voter' intimidation/COMMAND VOTING laws--ie. [color=bue]DESTRUCTION OF REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT!;
--Lying gestapo noose tightening around our collective and individual throats heralded by the MSM and Dem leaders in Congress as 'progressive;'

. . .

for the last 50 years has been initiated and effected by the Dems.

How anyone remotely sentient can even fantasize on a bad acid trip that the Dems are MORE for REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT is further proof that we really have slid down Alice's rabbit hole wholesale.

The DAFFYNITIONARY is clearly in use . . . good is now called evil; evil is now called good; up is now called down; down is now called up; left is now called right; right is now called left; REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT is now called dictatorial tyranny and dictatorial tyranny is now called representative government.

INCREDIBLE.

Blazingly incredible.

Clearly Charlotte Iserbyt is correct about our public education. The production of mindless robots is undeniably at an all time high.

Charlotte Iserbyt - Deliberate Dumbing Down of the World

www.youtube.com...

Charlotte Iserbyt: The Miseducation of America Part 1-Full

www.youtube.com...

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"Alright boys and girls . . . please put your thinking caps on . . . We will now have our allotted 3 minutes of thinking for the day. Please remember ONLY thoughts in lock-step Vulcan Mind-meld with our "GREAT LEADER" are tolerated. Anyone caught having an individual thought will be taken immediately to the extermination room.There will be NO "Good-byes." There will be only immediate transport to the Exterminator Machine."














THERE WILL BE
NO increase in AUTHENTIC
REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT
UNTIL AFTER LITERAL ARMAGEDDON.
THERE WILL ONLY BE INCREASING OBLITERATION
OF REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT.
THE GLOBALIST OLIGARCHY DECIDED
110+ YEARS AGO THAT ONLY THE RICH
RULING ELITE DESERVED TO RULE.


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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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Of course I would like to have more than two parties to vote for.

I would love to see 5 viable candidates running for all the offices. If congress was divided by several parties, hopefully it would eliminate the level of ridiculous gridlock we are now seeing. With the right people in charge, I think our economy could be turned around, and doing quite well, but not as long as so many suckers keep drinking the free market cool aid.

I wished that we had a political party that actually represented workers and small businesses. We live in a system where the markets are totally rigged, and the best we can hope for is some protection of our rights.

However, that is not the reality we are facing, so like you I will vote for Obama in the next election.
Maybe you have faith in Ron Paul, but I don't. He is just another free market guy.

Everything I have read lately points to the premise of this thread being true.
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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by lrak2
reply to post by e11888
 


Where did I call you a Republican? I made a general statement on conservatives.
You are the only person who repeatedly keeps on referring to Democrats and Republicans.


Is that not what this thread is about? Republicans did this and Democrats did that! Who cares? How about our Government is corrupt and forcing this crap on all of us? How about instead of the right or left doing this or that the paid off politians in Washington dont give a damn about you OR I? How about we have a "Patriot Act" this is anything but Patriotic spying on all of us? How about NDAA that can imprison any of us without trial? How about we have the largest prison population in the world that we the tax payer are forced to cover because the Government thinks it should tell you what you can and cannot put in your own body? How about we have violent drug cartels cutting people's heads off on our own border? How about we a bankrupt nation? How about we as AMERICANS should be looking for solutions like impeachement to criminals like Bush AND Obama so that we can get a real president back in office? How about we worry about the corrupt sell out media trying to choose our next president instead of ignoring it because its not the party that you worship? How about tyranny is REAL and not a conspiracy theory?



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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I love it when conservatives quote Orwell. George Orwell was a socialist who fought on the side of the Anarchists in the Spanish Civil War.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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I don't care about either Republicans or Democrats too.
Look, I generally agree with everything you just said. However, we probably disagree (vehemently) on how to go about achieving solutions.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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And you can pretend supporting RP isn't playing the bipartisan game if you want, but you are still drinking the free market cool aid.

Really, all this bipartisan bleating stuff is completely off topic. It does not discuss the issue, or the facts presented. It is just another game to ignore the reality of how dirty, mean, and nasty republicans in congress have become.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 


This is a testament to your complete naivety.


What does free enterprise have to do with the Police State?


While you are lost in the dream world of the free market, like the communists, the people you support preaching free market economics have been busy building a police state.

And you completely ignore that republicans are doing everything in their power to prevent the Federal Government from protecting the rights of the people.

Maybe the real truth is that you are knowingly and willingly supporting this destruction of representative government.




The problem with this is that your logic is fallacious at best. You are not making a good case for socialism based on the stuff you say.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:12 PM
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Im done responding to you. I cannot keep beating the same dead horse.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:19 PM
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OP it's both parities, I have one name for you. Jack Abramoff, Jack said it himself that he had over 100 congressman and senators offices bought on both sides. His advise get lobbyists out of Washington, impose term limits for all. No more life time as congressman or congresswomen 4 year terms only. ) then send them home.

Crooked lobbyist Jack Abramoff explains how he asserted his influence in Congress for years, and how such corruption continues today despite ethics reform. Lesley Stahl reports




Abramoff: I was actually thinking of writing a book - "The Idiot's Guide to Buying a Congressman" - as a way to put this all down. First, I think most congressmen don't feel they're being bought. Most congressmen, I think, can in their own mind justify the system





Abramoff: We probably had very strong influence in 100 offices at the time. Stahl: Come on. Abramoff: No. Stahl: A hundred offices?


Read more: www.cbsnews.com...

Transscript more

As of last week the approval rating for congress, 24 percent. some other polls are stating 17 percent.
Gallup poll




About three-quarters of registered voters (76%) say most members of Congress do not deserve re-election,


Op this means both sides not just Republicans, but Democrats as well.


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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:21 PM
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I would be more than happy to point out the historical realities that prove your claims in this post to be complete and utter ignorance, but really, you are off topic. It is really sad and pathetic that all you repubs have to offer is parroted talking point repeated endlessly by the people who tell you what to think.

Right now it is republicans who do everything in their power to stop prosecuting Wall Street criminals for their crimes, and while they are at it, raise taxes on small businesses and working class people. It is republicans refusing to enact legislation to help create jobs, or do anything to reverse our current economic crisis.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:24 PM
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I don't support socialism


Why do you want to reinstate the middle ages?



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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You have yet to respond to me. All you have done is repeat the same republican mantra.

It seems getting a on topic discussion from republicans is an impossibility.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
it still amazes me that seemingly intelligent people still believe in party differences and buy the game.


They just don't realize the Joint Chiefs, NSA, and CIA have been in charge of this country for decades. Both "parties" are given scripts on which is to be the good cop today and which is to be the bad cop today. They who have all the guns, tanks, and planes (along with thousands of nukes) have the ONLY say.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:31 PM
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I rarely post on here anymore because I have no desire to try and awaken the sheep. However, when misguided folks such as the OP start blabbing, I can't help myself.

The reason "republicans" want to scale back the size of the federal government, constitutional arguments aside, is because the federal government does not make things better. Aside from it being filled with industry insiders (take a look at the OCC, what they regulate and who runs that department) and control freaks, when a federal government gets too big to support itself (or have taxpayers support it) it will inevitably collapse, the death spasms will take us all out.

But this is all irrelevant to the fact that NEITHER party cares about this country. They are gladly destroying it o they can get re-elected and benefit from the very legislation (written for them) they pass. Wake up dude.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:41 PM
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MIlton Friedman on free enterprise
1980
www.freerepublic.com...

The basic principles underlying the free market, as Adam Smith taught them to his students in this University, are really very simple. Look at this lead pencil, there is not a single person in the world who could make this pencil. Remarkable statement? Not at all. The wood from which it's made, for all I know, comes from a tree that was cut down in the State of Washington. To cut down that tree, it took a saw. To make the saw, it took steel. To make the steel, it took iron ore. This black center, we call it lead but it's really compressed graphite, I am not sure where it comes from but I think it comes from some mines in South America. This red top up here, the eraser, a bit of rubber, probably comes from Malaya, where the rubber tree isn't even native. It was imported from South America by some businessman with the help of the British government. This brass feral __ I haven't the slightest idea where it came from or the yellow paint or the paint that made the black lines __ or the glue that holds it together. Literally thousands of people cooperated to make this pencil. People who don't speak the same language; who practice different religions; who might hate one another if they ever met. When you go down to the store and buy this pencil, you are, in effect, trading a few minutes of your time for a few seconds of the time of all of those thousands of people. What brought them together and induced them to cooperate to make this pencil? There was no Commissar sending out orders from some central office. It was the magic of the price system __ the impersonal operation of prices that brought them together and got them to cooperate to make this pencil so that you could have it for a trifling sum.
That is why the operation of the free market is so essential. Not only to promote productive efficiency, but even more, to foster harmony and peace among the peoples of the world.
These people are crossing between two very different societies. This is Lo Wool, the official border crossing point between China and Hong Kong. Nowadays there's a considerable amount of traffic at this border. People cross a little more freely than they use to. Many people from Hong Kong trade in China and the market has helped bring the two countries closer together, but the barriers between them are still very real. On this side of the border, people are free not only in the marketplace, but in all their lives. They are free to say what they want, to write what they want, to do pretty much as they please. Not so over there.
That is why people in China who cannot get permission to leave go to desperate lengths to escape. They risk their lives in the process. Many lose their lives, but that doesn't keep others from following. Some are attracted by the higher material standard of life in Hong Kong, but more by the natural human desire to be free.



In all this, the government of Hong Kong has played an important part, not only by what it has done, but as much by what it has refrained from doing. It has made sure that laws are enforced and contracts honored. It has provided the conditions in which a free market can work. Most importantly, it has not tried to direct the economic activities of the colony.
No government official is telling these people what to do. They are free to buy from whom they want, to sell to whom they want, to work for whom they want. Sometimes it looks like chaos and so it is, but underneath it's highly organized by the impersonal forces of a free marketplace. The impersonal forces of a free marketplace at work back here in the United States, prices are the key. The prices that people are willing to pay for products determines what's produced. The prices that have to be paid for raw materials, for the wages of labor, and so on, determine the cheapest way to produce these things.


The fundamental principal of the free society is voluntary cooperation. The economic market, buying and selling, is one example. But it's only one example. Voluntary cooperation is far broader than that.

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posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:43 PM
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Again!

This talking point has been repeated so many times on this thread alone, it makes parrots look like Shakespeare.

Republicans who go to Washington have no desire to shrink government. If you still believe this as this point in time, then you have been brain washed.

Republicans have consistently increased the size of government. They want a military police state ran by the bankers. That is obvious to anyone who bothers to learn what the heck is going on.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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More of Friedman, discussing with Harrington, Democratic Socialist


HARRINGTON: I would argue that the government played a decisive role in an enormous grant to the railroads in creating an America capitalist economy. And secondly, if you go back to that golden age, you find that the government constantly intervened in a rather characteristic way, it used troops against strikers. American labor history has been the most violent, bloody class struggle anywhere in the world, and the government, up until 1932, the law, the courts, the society, always sided with business, always sided against working people. Therefore, I would argue that both economically and in terms of repressing the attempts of people to assert their freedom, our government prior to the rise of the welfare state in this country was more or less owned by business.


FRIEDMAN: Michael Harrington is seeing the hole in the barn door and he's not looking at the barn door itself. The plain fact is during the whole of that period, while government did intervene from time to time, and mostly to do harm, I agree with him that government intervention was, in the main, not a good thing; tariffs, for example. On the other hand, throughout that whole period government spending, Federal Government spending, central government spending, never was more than 3 percent of the national income. It was trivial. The land grants to the railroads were a minor factor. I'm not. I don't approve of them. I'm not saying they were a good thing, but they were a very minor factor. One has to have a sense of proportion and that goes to the whole discussion, that I am not an anarchist. I am not in favor of eliminating government. I believe we need a government, but we need a government that sets a framework and rules within which individuals, pursuing their own objectives, can work together and cooperate together not only in economic areas.


www.freerepublic.com...



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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republicans are just one side of the political spectrum.I always backed the labour party in England but soon came to realize that them and the tories both p#ss in the same pot.They all serve Evil.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by skoalman88
 


Again!

This talking point has been repeated so many times on this thread alone, it makes parrots look like Shakespeare.

Republicans who go to Washington have no desire to shrink government. If you still believe this as this point in time, then you have been brain washed.

Republicans have consistently increased the size of government. They want a military police state ran by the bankers. That is obvious to anyone who bothers to learn what the heck is going on.



I agree with Michael Savage that Bush may have actually been a fiscal socialist. What difference does it make if Bush overspends or Obama does? The fact is, it's a govt out of control, and it is perpetuated by the business-as-usual approach, pork barrel projects, entitlements and unfunded liabilities and the Fed printing money like Niagara Falls.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
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I don't support socialism


Why do you want to reinstate the middle ages?





Baloney! You are one of the most socialist leaning posters in this forum.

Just for fun though why don't you tell me what you feel you represent or support?




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