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BREAKING: Mysterious planet-sized object spotted near Mercury

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posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by stephenca
Sister Du Juana Sargent got this information first and she shared it with me, my response to her was that , i learnt that mercury as a planet is very near to the sun, meaning that no living entity can live in this planet because of the great heat from the sun but i suggested that a special investigation may be conducted to know what type of object it might be--may be it is a spy machine that can withstand great heat from the sun, monitoring the activities of other planets------Stephenca


Any proof that any alien space craft can't be near the Sun without melting? What do we know about aliens and their craft....absolutely nothing. SO this statement has NO factual evidence!!




posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 04:58 PM
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I wanna know where the CME is and how this has anything to do with the disk shaped object in the image????
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posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Dilligaf28
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


Its called spelling out common logic step by step so its really easy to understand. Obviously I did not make it simple enough for you. For that I do apologize. I will try to make it even easier and clearer in the future.

Hollywood is FICTION. No matrix, no stargates, no transformers, no none of it..... is all FICTION
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How would you know what we commonely associate as fiction is not reality, and what we think of reality is not really fiction? Have you been to the pentagon lately? What is the purpose behind confidential, secret and top secret?

And please don't say to protect our national security from terrorists in the middle east. That might have a grain or two of truth to it, but in all likelyhood it goes way beyond that. Hollywood could not have such incredible imaginations with no help. It is pretty evident they have insider information from somewhere and it ain't from me either.

Do the math. Any logical person would come to the same conclusions!



posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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You use the phrase "Use common sense" and then you disregard it by say the government is creating movies for the people to let us in on their Top Secret stuff....hmmm kinda defeats the whole purpose of keeping things Top Secret...


There are people in this world who have great imaginations and use it to create entertainment...to say there aren't is not using common sense.

The rational will tell you...the stuff in Hollywood is fictional and comes from the creative mind.(although a lot of the stuff in there is a rip off from another..:lol
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The irrational will tell us that there is no way that Hollywood is that creative...it has to be from the government or inside knowledge.


People you decide.
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posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by chrismicha77
reply to post by ngchunter
 


I see nothing that even compares to the orginal still shots in the original post. There will always the ones who are out to disprove it's nothing more than a lens artifact and others who agree like me it's something other.

Phage you have proven time and time again that you are well knowlege in these things BUT sometimes you could be completely wrong.

I for instance, believe there is something there not explainable and in time we'll lucky to find out.

For every doughter there are hundreds of believe. It's a losing battle regardless of anyone view points period!


What is a doughter or do you mean doubter or daughter? What is there are "hundreds of believe", do you mean hundreds of believers?

If you mean for every doubter there are hundreds of believers..this is true...the stupid usually do outnumber the intelligent. Look at the world...plenty of intelligent people out there....but the world is messed up because of they are outnumbered by the idiotic...who make stupid decisions that make no sense for the human race.
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posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by kerazeesicko
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


You use the phrase "Use common sense" and then you disregard it by say the government is creating movies for the people to let us in on their Top Secret stuff....hmmm kinda defeats the whole purpose of keeping things Top Secret...


There are people in this world who have great imaginations and use it to create entertainment...to say there aren't is not using common sense.

The rational will tell you...the stuff in Hollywood is fictional and comes from the creative mind.(although a lot of the stuff in there is a rip off from another..:lol
.

The irrational will tell us that there is no way that Hollywood is that creative...it has to be from the government or inside knowledge.


People you decide.
edit on 10-12-2011 by kerazeesicko because: CUZ I CAN


You couldn't be more right!

Sorry for the miscues but I'm going on 3 days of no sleep haha!



posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by chrismicha77
reply to post by ngchunter
 


I see nothing that even compares to the orginal still shots in the original post.

Explain to me how it's any different. Bright planet passes through, bright planet has a dark spot and a flare develop on its path of motion every day, which resets when a new day begins.



posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by kerazeesicko
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


You use the phrase "Use common sense" and then you disregard it by say the government is creating movies for the people to let us in on their Top Secret stuff....hmmm kinda defeats the whole purpose of keeping things Top Secret...


There are people in this world who have great imaginations and use it to create entertainment...to say there aren't is not using common sense.

The rational will tell you...the stuff in Hollywood is fictional and comes from the creative mind.(although a lot of the stuff in there is a rip off from another..:lol
.

The irrational will tell us that there is no way that Hollywood is that creative...it has to be from the government or inside knowledge.


People you decide.
edit on 10-12-2011 by kerazeesicko because: CUZ I CAN


You can believe whatever you want. It honestly makes no difference to me! Don't you find it ironic though that more and more things that were once thought of as science fiction turnout to be science fact? It is not like mainstream science stops evolving.

Humans can't evolve from a physical perspective, but our minds do. It is a matter of making secret knowledge public knowledge. Latter I got run and do some chores for now.........

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posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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The "fits" give me fits.
The dynamic range is incredible. It's no wonder that so much processing is required to pull a usable jpg or png image out of this:



edit on 12/10/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)


Exactly. Not only is the dynamic range absolutely massive, but so too is the glare from the sun. You can't even see the tenuous features of the heliosphere until you do some very heavy processing to subtract that from the image. Nonetheless, I'm a big fan of just the raw images by themselves; they show you what you'd actually see if you were a fly on the side of the spacecraft (minus CCD blooming, etc, of course). It's a far more natural look at space.
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posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by asen_y2k
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Aha, you are correct, I did not know about the sequences from other dates. Looks increasing unlikely thats it anything other than a software glitch.


I went to the navy site and made a few movies of my own. Cool site.


That was fun.

Yes, it's a software glitch.
Well, that was fun while it lasted.



posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by ngchunter

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by Phage
 


Its theorized by those two sources. It is NOT explained. That is not what it is either.


Yes, that is what it is. As phage explained, it's an artifact of processing the images with what I like to call "pseudo-dark frames" using the images taken on previous days. It's not present at all when you use the raw, original, unprocessed fits files. It happens every time a bright planet passes through the field of view. For instance, here's the same thing happening as Venus passed through the HI-1 of STEREO ahead in march, but because it was moving in the opposite direction (left to right), the artifact appeared on the opposite side (with an additional large circular lens flare effect on the left side as well which always happens with Venus):
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The raw unprocessed images do not contain these artifacts because they're a result of the processing done on them using "pseudo-darks" to remove the background light from the sun, just as they mention in the article. Here's the raw fits file for that last image:
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Notice that the "object" is not there at all. That's what the true image looks like.


You know this reminds me of the Borg Spheres appearing around the sun.


Remember?



posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by chrismicha77
reply to post by ngchunter
 


I see nothing that even compares to the orginal still shots in the original post. There will always the ones who are out to disprove it's nothing more than a lens artifact and others who agree like me it's something other.

Setting aside for the moment the fact that you don't even understand what we're actually describing (it's not a "lens" artifact), let me give you another example using Mercury again, this time from December 22nd, 2009. Look at this sequence, start of the day the "spaceship" isn't there, by the end of the day it's there and so is a CME.
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End of the day, the pseudo-dark resets, it's gone at the start of the next:
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Once again, the raw original fits file does not show this processing artifact:
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Processing this image roughly the same way that the NRL guys do, using median pseudo-darks of the previous images, produces the same effect of a dark hole where the planet was next to a bright spot:
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Voila, it's an image processing artifact.



posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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nevermind, found answers, sorry for line noise
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posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by kerazeesicko

Originally posted by chrismicha77
reply to post by ngchunter
 


I see nothing that even compares to the orginal still shots in the original post. There will always the ones who are out to disprove it's nothing more than a lens artifact and others who agree like me it's something other.

Phage you have proven time and time again that you are well knowlege in these things BUT sometimes you could be completely wrong.

I for instance, believe there is something there not explainable and in time we'll lucky to find out.

For every doughter there are hundreds of believe. It's a losing battle regardless of anyone view points period!


What is a doughter or do you mean doubter or daughter? What is there are "hundreds of believe", do you mean hundreds of believers?

If you mean for every doubter there are hundreds of believers..this is true...the stupid usually do outnumber the intelligent. Look at the world...plenty of intelligent people out there....but the world is messed up because of they are outnumbered by the idiotic...who make stupid decisions that make no sense for the human race.
edit on 10-12-2011 by kerazeesicko because: CUZ I CAN


If I may ask, where the hell are the believers in this thread
A better analogy would be for every believer there are at least 20 disbelievers, and that is putting it mild! I feel like a hero simetimes swimming against the tide just to add some legitimacy to this site.

If I have to disagree with every single person(more like brainwashed idiots) then that is exactly what I will do.

The posts not only on ATS, but on yahoo and YouTube discust the # out of me. Sorry to be so blunt!



posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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A better analogy would be for every believer there are at least 20 disbelievers, and that is putting it mild!

I'm not sure about your percentages but rather than "disbelievers" a better term would be critical thinkers. With the emphasis on the second word.



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posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 10:22 PM
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So is ATS a ufo site or a nasa site? I can understand critical thinking but I was hoping to get a bit more from a fringe site than yahoo or youtube. Supposedly we are to deny ignorance, right? Maybe I was wrong since everything is madison avenue marketing.



posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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Oh good. The last resort.
When logic and reason prevail over "belief", cry disinfo!



posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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No - disinfo agents is a good term for people who put forth information that is patently not true, and then swear black and blue that it is, refuse to countenance any information that contradicts it, and keep repeating the falsehoods time after time without any apology for misleading people.

It's not at all a good term for people who do, actually, deny ignorance.



posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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Oh good. The last resort.
When logic and reason prevail over "belief", cry disinfo!


Well, lets see the OP posted this thread at 12:45
You came on at 12:46. Pretty quick don't you think? Hmmm?




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