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Day PM put Britain first: Defiant Cameron stands up to Euro bullies

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posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 05:14 AM

• Eurocrats predict a 'great divorce' amid doubt on the UK's future in the EU
• But PM says Britain will stay in EU as long as 'membership in our interest'
• Sarkozy 'had to be physically restrained' during historic talks on the euro
• PM's decision delights Tory eurosceptics but the Lib Dems are less pleased
• Hague vows Britain will not contribute to 200bn euro extra bailout fund
• Heseltine warns: 'There's no way you can protect interest of City by floating off into the Atlantic'

‘This is going to cost the UK dearly. They have antagonised everyone,’ said one senior EU official. ‘I don’t believe David Cameron was ever with us at the table,’ complained Germany’s Angela Merkel.

France’s Le Monde newspaper pronounced ‘The Europe of 27 is finished’, while Germany’s Der Spiegel declared ‘Bye Bye Britain’.

Mr Sarkozy was said to have had to be physically restrained during ten-hour talks that went on through the night, and afterwards ‘blanked’ the Prime Minister by dodging his handshake in the manner of a sulking teenager.

He told Mr Cameron that while others were trying to save the Eurozone he was issuing ‘irrelevant’ demands to make London an ‘offshore centre’ taking cash away from Europe.

After an unnamed French official said Mr Cameron had behaved ‘like a man at a wife-swapping party who refuses to bring his own wife’, the Prime Minister said: ‘I have not and have no plans to attend any wife-swapping parties.’

But Labour leader Ed Miliband accused Mr Cameron of being ‘imprisoned by the Eurosceptics’ in his party.
‘It makes us marginal to the big decisions on Europe,’ he said. ‘It is no way to run a foreign policy. And it lets down our country.’

Labour’s former Europe minister Denis MacShane, a strong supporter of the EU, said: ‘There is now little point in Britain staying in the EU.

'I congratulate . . . Eurosceptics on their victory. It is a historic turning point and Britain might as well get out now, as Europe’s future will be settled without us.’

From the outside looking in this seems like one of the few things that a Western leader has done in a long time. Whether or not this was intended for the benefit of the British citizens as a whole or just the big Whigs in London city we can assume the latter, but nevertheless it seems like the UK will be spared being wrangled into another disaster waiting to happen. The Eurosceptics in the Tory Party got what they wanted after all. I recall not too long ago some 80 Conservatives bucked the party leadership when they voted for a referendum on membership in the European Union.

So what do the Britons here on ATS think? Do you think Mr. Cameron did the right thing? Do you believe he was looking out for his country or just the elite in London? Will this result in your country eventually leaving the EU?

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 05:20 AM
I stick to what I said in other threads. The treaty was specifically desgned to enaure Britain had no choice but to veto. Cameron had no intention whatsoever to safe guard the people of the UK, the veto was only used to safeguard those banks whom are responsible for the economic terrorism we see today.

The banks are making thier move to conquer all european countries and will soon move to take over the US with a banking dictatorship where they intend to reduce the population to around 500 million people wiping out over 80% of civilization.

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 05:35 AM
This is a difficult one for me because I dont like him, but, I think Cameron has done the right thing. However, I am slightly concerned that we will become isolated to what is our biggest trading group. We export more to Ireland than Brazil and China combined, so we must be careful.

He had no choice but to protect the one small corrupt mile in central London as it provides such huge tax revenues. Whether those revenues match the amount we have bailed out that sector, I don't know, but unfortunately the bankers had to be protected, again.

I don't like the over patriotic spin some of the media are playing on this. Camerons best mate Murdoch has him supper imposed onto Churchills body with "Up EURS" as the headline. This type of thing just breeds un needed xenophobia.

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 05:45 AM
reply to post by woodwardjnr

I understand Nationalists getting very excited over this but it is not really something to beat your chest about. If this came down to Mr. Cameron defending the average citizen on the street, i.e. the elite in London wanted to join this treaty, then you can bet he would have said “I agree”. This was not about the people of Britain or the country itself; it was about protecting the rich. But hell, at least this time the interests of the elite were with the nation and not with further globalization. That has to count for something… right?

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 06:00 AM
i give you the real david cammeron .. if someone could enbed this i would be greatful

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 06:10 AM
reply to post by Misoir

Yes and that's why I agreed with his decision in the end. I don't want to find Britain in a situation like Greece or Italy, losing sovereignty and democracy replaced by banking autocrats. I like the idea of a union in Europe, just not the way the Globalists have it planned.
The other thing is, this is what the majority of the UK want, they want out of the EU. Time will tell if we make the right decision.

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 06:11 AM
reply to post by akapapasmurf

There you go:

Interesting video. I worked for ASDA's a while back to. Cameron is always like this anyways, thinks he is better than everyone else since he had a good education.

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 06:14 AM
I had to laugh out loud at hearing Sarkozy having to be physically restrained.
Stuff the Euro debate, I want to see a cam clip of it.

The silly little twerp should look closer at his own unfair Euro "benefits" like agriculture before complaining about us in the UK not doing our bit.

Dave C has done good on this one. What they were after was a new European tax that in effect would make Britain the top contributer. We aren't even in the bloomin Euro.

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 06:19 AM
reply to post by JonoEnglish

Sarkozy is a sufferer of Small mans syndrome.

An angry male of below average height who feels it necessary to act out in an attempt to gain respect and recognition from others and compensate for his abnormally short stature. Also synonomous to little man syndrome.'s%20Syndrome

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 06:22 AM
My opinion is that he had no choice and I for one feel it was set up to go that, whether it is so European countries can use the UK as an off shore bank is something I consider possible.

Institutions in London are for example helping nations return debts they owe to groups like the Paris Club, a large chunk of which is owed to France and Germany.. I am sure when it comes down to it they (those in charge and those who sponsor them) do not want to see their transactions (in the billions) taxed and given to the EU.

Just my tuppence worth at this point..

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 06:23 AM
reply to post by woodwardjnr

Awww and he is trying so hard to be just a little bit shorter than the old ladies next to him.

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 06:24 AM
The only role Camaron has is to squeeze the life blood out of the british economy, which he is doing rather well.. to redistribute that wealth into the hands of the few and reinvest a small majority of it back into community schemes to make it appear like he is doing a good job... It's ironic that people don't see parts of the UK that have nose dived in appearence and condition of living standards.. what were blossoming and happy communities only 15 years ago have become no go zones full of kids drinking and burning cars to pass the time.. Something Mr Camarons money squeeze is directly responsible for.. and it isn't stopping anytime soon...Dont ever buy into the lie that he is putting britain first, he is putting britains rich first...

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 07:00 AM
reply to post by Oxygenation

You cant blame cameron for the last 15years,try blaming labour your loving socialist party.i am no lover of the tories but for once he is maybe listening to british public opinion instead of european opinion.i would argue that it is the mass influx of eastern eurupeans that has crippled public services,be it benefits or the nhs.a friend of mine works in a chemist ands says forieners are about 50 percent of their customers for nhs prescriptions,which are of free in scotland.another friend works in a benefits office and told me of a service to home poles etc when they come here(even though tens of thousands of brits are waiting for social housing)and even if they have been here for 12 weeks they even get the cold weather allowance.the cost of these eastern e.u. migrants since 2004 is what has eroded our standards of living,roll on leaving the e.u. and all them getting sent home with their fake and uncheckable qualificitions in hand.they have blead our island dry more than any asian or africa migrant(as they actually have to bring something to offer unlike e.u.immigrants.)

edit on 10/12/2011 by ClanDonnachaidh because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 01:36 PM
I can blame Cameron.. you can lend your trust to one party or the other but until you take your head out of the sand and realise they are all in it together, youre just another puppet on a string..

It may be another face, another name, another party but at the end of the day its the same old politics..

What you have to realise is that law only exists in a society to seperate the haves from the have nots...

posted on Dec, 10 2011 @ 01:45 PM
reply to post by woodwardjnr

Totally agree.........................something about this guy, that I do so not like, even his voice grates me.

Hoping for the referendum soon!!!!

Yeap we do have to be careful, but did read somewhere that we have funded about 50% of the troubled Europe, maybe wrong??

posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:39 AM
So the French is Plotting revenge on the British are they.

I say we in the UK boycott all things French.

The UK Does not need the french one bit.

posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 08:54 AM
Here is some ammunition for the french haters, just after world war one (the great?war) started, the french came to the city of london banks for loans to keep that stupid war going, they (the french) have yet to pay those loans back.
Some for the pole haters when Poland joined the EU and got its first handout, it used the money to buy American fighter jets, tham amount being roughly what the Brits paid into the Eurofund through its value added tax, the Poles did not even bother to ask if they could buy european produced jet fights

posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 10:05 AM
reply to post by Laurauk

Cool, I am going to start by boycotting French Fries

posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 05:40 AM
reply to post by smint

We should rename them Bulldog fries

One thing I don't like about the liberals or labour now. They would have sold us all down the river. I have to admit it I am starting to like the torries now. Now that's a big thing for me. Since my family have been predominantly Labour supporters all our life's.

posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 06:27 AM
I'm not sure whether Cameron was being a hero or just doing the only only thing he could - since he was between a rock and a hard place and any treaty changes might have triggered a referendum. The worrying thing for me is that he said he would have signed if he could have got those safeguards.
Getting that budgetary control agreed - even if it is only applicable to Eurozone countries at this stage - could be the thin end of the wedge.
Wearing my full tin foil hat gear, I think it is possible that this entire episode was a 'play' agreed between the French, Germans and Brits. Let's not take our eyes off the ball.
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