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Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Chamberf=6
Now, Now, turn that frown upside down and smile. For some reason, reminding people that they are in heaven may make them feel upset, angry, or irritated, but it'll all be alright. You just gotta readjust. It's like waking someone up from a dream I guess..
It's just a hard realization for them to come to, OP, as they do not realize they create Hell for themselves with their mental process. And the opposite, they can create Heaven for themselves, but they were given free will and the desire for creation so I'd submit that creating suffering for themselves is all fine and dandy. Even if that suffering is the result of indirectly insulting someone
Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by ErroneousDylan
It's just a hard realization for them to come to, OP, as they do not realize they create Hell for themselves with their mental process. And the opposite, they can create Heaven for themselves, but they were given free will and the desire for creation so I'd submit that creating suffering for themselves is all fine and dandy. Even if that suffering is the result of indirectly insulting someone
You are in your own little delusional "fake" heaven. I think you need to realize that many people don't care to "pretend" this earthly life is heaven ..though we can perhaps experience moments of joy, and love that may parallel what exists in heaven.
You can have your "fake" heaven..no one will take that away.... but obviously if you feel the need to argue with people, it isn't much of a heaven.
Originally posted by jem504
reply to post by 1littlewolf
The only argument you have is that one chooses to be happen. You don't elaborate at all, and if someone doesn't see how your delusional way of thinking is realistic, you tell them they're choosing not to see it your way, or they're simply choosing not to see Heaven.
So, here's a scenario.
A 10 year old kid has his 43-year-old teacher kidnap him. The child is then forcibly raped.
What then? The child should just look past the fact his teacher's penis was just inside of him? That his ass is bleeding because of it? He should probably take an hour or two, reflect on the situation, and just... go back to being happy? Because, whether he likes it or not, he just got raped, right? By his teacher.
Here's another scenario.
a 25-year-old girl is hanging out at her friends house. There's a knock on the door. It's the pizza they ordered 10 minutes ago being delivered. They open the door. Guy's got a gun, shoots both of them, and leaves. The 25-year-old survives, the friend has a bullet in her head and is bleeding out on the floor right beside her.
What then? Reflect? Take in the negative that just happened, filter it out, and just... be happy again?
This is light trivia compared to what else goes on in the world. A world that you seem to be neglecting. Have you been raped? Molested? Have you ever been sodomized? Kidnapped and sold into slave labor? Ever seen a friend killed right in front of you? Have you ever had the worry of not being able to feed yourself? Your family?
Or are you living cushy? Or even average; but still making a living where you don't really have any worries? Or what? Because you just don't seem to have any arguments. You just think people don't understand, and you're the only right one. Those that don't agree just... aren't awake?
Tell you what. How about you go through a truly traumatic experience and then get back with us.
honesty, I feel that you are just as delusional as you claim my "fake heaven" to be in believing that you can not be happy all of your life on this world.
Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by ErroneousDylan
honesty, I feel that you are just as delusional as you claim my "fake heaven" to be in believing that you can not be happy all of your life on this world.
Anyone who can be truly happy their whole life on this earth has no empathy or compassion for the the suffering others go through.. some much worse than others.
Our sufferings , trials and tribulations are shared ..as well as our joys.
Love is being able to to feel the sorrows of others, understanding the pain that others feel..joy is helping alleviate those sufferings and sorrows..and if that can't be done.. suffering with others is a form of showing love, and helping them carry along through the struggles.
For some reason, reminding people that they are in heaven may make them feel upset, angry, or irritated,
Well, if you really believe this to be true then I would say you should choose to be happy so that others may share your joy! Surely, if someone is upset and you go to them while also being upset then they are just going to pick-up or "share" your negative emotions and that should technically make them feel worse. However, if you go to them with love, happiness and a non-judgmental compassion, then hopefully you can raise their vibrations to help them choose happiness for themselves. There should be no reason that you have to feel suffering just because someone else is them. Why would you? Because you feel sorry for them or pity them? I always prefer to go to someone who is clearly happy when I am upset so that I may experience their joy, not someone who is going to get saddened by what I have to say.
Originally posted by theovermensch
What about people in Somalia?
Should they be happy?
The slums in India?
People in the west shouldnt be happy either because of these things.
I would like to see you tell someone in Somalia that they should look on the bright side.
Are people starving in Somalia just thinking the glass is half empty?
Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by arpgme
For some reason, reminding people that they are in heaven may make them feel upset, angry, or irritated,
Perhaps it is because people, in general, dislike being lied to.
Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by arpgme
"What happens when we die?"