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Do you secretly hope for an economic collapse.

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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 02:05 PM
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Yes! It needs to fall.

I say this mostly because, living int he south, the swamp, Bayou, woods, the river and all that comes with being raised in the south, I feel that I have enough know how to live off the land, make my own bullets, wiskey, wine, and knowing how to cure most meats....


No! Because I realise that just because I can do these things without fear, I also realise there are so, so, so many more people around me that cannot. The people I speak to every day just dont have this kind of knowledge. Most were raised on concrete, and were given a great education.. but that education tells nothing on how to live off the land. I learned through my family and in part, the army/millitary.

Id love to see such a thing take place, but I couldnt live with myself if I said such and felt this way while knowing that millions of people would not survive starvation within the first week. Sure, it'll take ya longer than a week to starve, but you you wont make it that far without proper water to drink and hydrate yourself.

I would see things much worse. Within the first week, I see starvations/riots/murders/martial law, to name only a few, taking place. I see anyone resembling being rich to be pulled from their vehicles, beaten, and left for dead. I see nice houses that we dream about living in being burnt down the first days. There will be little evidence for riches and wealth in those days... That's when real socialism takes on it's own. People wont have to be communist... It'll just come naturaly.




posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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No, personally I like food, water and a roof over my head when sleeping. Those that are wanting collapse are most likely behind in bills, in debt, etc. and think their debt will be washed away with a collapse when really it will just be doubled or tripled by super inflation, you really think they'll let you get away? There are no benefits to economic collapse - grocery stores will not have food and if they do it will be 10 times the price it is now, schools will be shut down, gas will be 10 times what it is now. Those thinking this will fix their problems or the worlds problems are sadly mistaken and will be in a world of hurt if it does happen.

Currency is not going anywhere, in the event of a collapse your dollar will be worth a penny, your 20 dollars will be worth 1 buck and your hundred dollars will be worth 20 buck. That's how it works, you really think there just gonna abolish the currency market when it collapses, just say f* it and peace? They'll reform it and you'll just be more trapped as a slave. It's pretty amazing to see what people think will happen in a collapse "Yea we're saved" Free yourselves don't get credit cards, pay your bills, live within your means instead of waiting for some event to save you.
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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I think the current economic system is on the verge of collapsing already. I really don't want total chaos, but would rather see the Federal Reserve disbanded and return to a system based on gold or some other tangible commodity.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by camaro68ss
 


No, I kind of like things like cars, air conditioning, supermarkets and restaurants for food, video games, the Internet, not having to shoot something or someone for resources, etc.

If you REALLY think about it...you like these things too, and wouldn't wish for such a thing ever...either for yourself, or your family if you have one....


Maybe for you. I hate this reply, it always comes up, "Well if its gone I know you'll be sorry!" Yeah well you don't know. For me, i want to struggle to live. I want every day to be a battle. I want to not be able to sleep for fear that i might be killed or robbed. I want to hunt for food every day, but most importantly, i want every day to be a live changing experience, instead of a worthless repeat over and over again.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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Nice, like we are put on auto repeat and just expected to run as a machine. I have to agree with you, Im all for leaving the comforts behind and actually experiencing what life is supposed to be about. I don't want to struggle but I do want to be able to survive by my own means.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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naturally....



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by camaro68ss
 


No, I kind of like things like cars, air conditioning, supermarkets and restaurants for food, video games, the Internet, not having to shoot something or someone for resources, etc.

If you REALLY think about it...you like these things too, and wouldn't wish for such a thing ever...either for yourself, or your family if you have one....


I like all that stuff too but and who says that wont be there after?



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by BlastedCaddy
If that means I do not have to be a slave to this grind anymore I don't care what happens. Sick of this 9-5 struggle.


Least you get 9 to 5, I don't even get that.


Right behind you.
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by Manhater

Originally posted by BlastedCaddy
If that means I do not have to be a slave to this grind anymore I don't care what happens. Sick of this 9-5 struggle.


Least you get 9 to 5, I don't even get that.


Right behind you.
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There is something in what you mentioned here.

Some people would kill for a 40-60 hour work week, working 9-5. I work 12 hour days at around 50 hours a week. That, to me, is draining as hell, after a while. The hours are long, but at the same time, it allows me to have the following week off since I'm pilling 12 hour days in 4 days rather than 8 hour days working 5 days a week. So, sure, there is a lil love hate going on here, but to be honest, I love my job, it takes care of me, and I feel very secure doing what I'm doing. For some... It would drive them mad working 12 hours in 8 days strait. To me, it's a hell of alot more laid back than the field and I know where my bread is buttered. Listening to some of the guys, (these guys are in their early 20s and me near in my 40s, age does seem to play a factor) and you could swear we were wearing them to death. The field pushed 120 hours on us pretty often each week. Hey, when the oilfield says to go, you either go or find another job. You just cant complain about the hours or you'll get much less than that working at wal mart the following week. So, 50 hours in 4 days, vs 120 hours in 6 days. For pretty much the same pay, once taxes butcher the extra money you're making from overtime. (the wages average out hourly to compensate some from the previous work in the field... they wont just drop your pay when you're making something of an advancement)

So basicly what I'm saying is this, as you have mentioned. Some people will work their selves to death because they have reason... no matter the reason, it's their own reason. I do not feel that I am entitled to a single red cent of that money.

Some people cant stand to work more than 8 hour days 5 days a week... with the right money, tha's a perfect job. Yet, you cant motivate some people to get up and do that... Wellfair is a perfect example why.

btw, not pointing my conversation to you directly.. you touched upon a really great point in your comment.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 08:13 PM
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I'll take your hours. I get only up to 9-10hrs a whole 7 day week.

Hours should be placed evenly, I think. Enough hours to go around to make all your employees happy.
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:58 PM
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Sadly my answer is yes.... but it is because I want freedom from this Earth and shell.



posted on Oct, 6 2012 @ 08:05 PM
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I'm not saying I like the world as it is now. But a collapse will not solve anything. However much bad there is in this world, I'll be damned if I ever have to lose easy access to food and fresh water, and living in a community where people arent killing eachother for food. And you know what, I will even add the "stupid" "superficial" pleasures to that list too. If I'm willing to fight and die for anything, I will fight and die for what you call "business as usual" for the only positive change will happen, not through a collapse, but through more of the things that will be destroyed as the result of collapse: technolgy comfort, convenience. So # all of you who dare hope for a collapse, who see it as anything different then a pure tragedy that must be fought tooth and nail to avoid at all cost. # your silly stupid ideals. # your overblown hatred of the governemnt. # your malcontentment. # your insipid , idiotic idealisation of the past. # your inane belief in positve change from the "ashes". Get on board with those of us working for positive change that does NOT involve sacrificing the "masses", and I suggest really questioning yourself what sort of person does it make you when you think those around you must be sacrificed in the name of your little "revolution".



posted on Oct, 6 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by greenCo

Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by camaro68ss
 


No, I kind of like things like cars, air conditioning, supermarkets and restaurants for food, video games, the Internet, not having to shoot something or someone for resources, etc.

If you REALLY think about it...you like these things too, and wouldn't wish for such a thing ever...either for yourself, or your family if you have one....


We are talking about total human freedom and you talk about .. cars, air conditioning, supermarkets and restaurants for food, video games?? Most selfish and unemphatic response ever



Your response makes my blood boil. "selfish" "unemphatic" as opposed to wanting people dying cause they cant get their meds? as opposed to wanting people drinking sewer water? as opposed to wanting people getting gutted for their food? And for what "Total Humand Freedom" BAH! Screw your "Total Human Freedom".... it's BULL. Its nothing but your stupid ideological idea of what "true" freedom is... which is in actuallity you wanting to dictate how others should live their lives!



posted on Oct, 6 2012 @ 09:34 PM
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No, i do not want an economic collapse.

I have a hard enough time with my life as it is, I don't need to live in a world like the postman.



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