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Is US Minimum Wage really $7.25?

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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:37 PM
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If minimum wage had kept up with inflation from the 60s, I've seen stats where it would be 9 or 10 dollars an hour. Granted, it actually is close to that in high-cost states to live.


I've seen stats where it would be over 20 an hour....which seems to be more accurate if you think about it.

Wasn't long ago, only one parent had to work...the other could stay home and spend more time with their kids (which is a huge plus to our children's education and society as a whole, look at how much better it was back t hen......), pay off a their home before they even sent their kids to college.

But now, both parents have to work, mortgages are crazy expensive, college tuition is absolutely through the roof, parents don't have the same amount of time to spend with kids as they used to,and nearly all families are nearly one health problem, layoff, etc....from financial destruction...losing everything. So many are already there or are going through. What do we do to them? call them lazy, losers, and leeches.

I hate money....I really do. It's those that are the best at obtaining it that can destroy those who aren't.

There was a time when people in the United States, for the most part, worked together for the best of our country and it's people.

Now it's all about ME. ME ME ME....and the more you have, the more vain you look, and that is why I get angry when I see a billionaire crying about losing a few million in taxes. It's a joke. An absolute frickin joke.

There isn't a human being on this planet that is worth a billion dollars. Not a single one.

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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:37 PM
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It should actually be illegal to pay anyone less than $24,000 per year take home 40 hrs a week.(min wage)

Vote me in and i can make it happen.

However I will probably need extra Secret Service protection.... Republicanazis get real mad and ya never know what the Demonicrats will do.
edit on 9-12-2011 by superluminal11 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by nightbringr

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Judge a book by its cover, you couldn't be any more prejudiced.

Obama is a socialist, he wants everyone to be "equal" like the borg. How is that even remotely arguable? I get positive comments through U2U all the time.

Cheers.


Erm, was actually talking about the OP you responded to in that particular post. Even his avatar was a troll. Wasnt talking about Obama at all.


I am not the OP



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by gladtobehere
There should be no minimum wage. The market should set the rates.



I'm all for "The Market" setting the rates when it applies to everyone.
As it is now, the Market is rigged for people to exploit others for their own gain.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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I read the first page of this post and that was about all I could stand. Not because it was a bad post. It just really makes me angry. So am am sorry if this has been covered.

Let's put something into perspective. Albert Pujols just signed with the Anaheim Angels for 10 years at $250,000,000

Lets put this into "normal" people money.

$500,000 / week for 10 years.

$50,000 / week for 100 years.

$5000 / week for 1000 years.

$500 / week for 10,000 years.

$47 / minute for 10 years.

79 cents a second for 10 years.

$7.25 / hour on a 40 hour work week would take around 33 years to make 1 week salary for a baseball player.

Enough money to make 500 people a $50,000 / year job for a year.

Lets say the average beer at a stadium is $7.25. I responsible person taking public transportation and had a 12 pack at a game would spend $87 on beer, about $15 on a couple of hot dogs. They would have to work almost 3 days to just have a good time at a ball game. Let's net even get into the numbers for a football game.

I think you get my point.

I'll take it, and cant say anything against these athletes and actors that get this money for people that are willing to pay it to them.

It just seems just wrong.

I'm a 40 year old man that will probably see no social security at about $1500 / month and will probably end up homeless or living off my kids until I die.

That being said, if I don't die of a heart attack from stress of just being able to maintain rent, utilites, food, clothes, xmas, car payments for 2 kids while making $50,000 in San Diego I will be shocked.

Gotta love where our campaign contributions are going to.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:54 PM
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The real problem is not minimum wages, its the devaluing of the dollar over the years. When you have a federal reserve that is above any law or power that is able to print money at will and does so often its gonna cause inflation. The American dollar just isnt worth what it once was..

The real problem is we in this country are dealing with a multi headed hydra with a never ending appetite for greed that can never be satisfied.

Congress, wall street, the federal reserve, banks, corporations all have a play in this at some level or another.

All the politicians are puppets on the strings of those who donate to them and fund them. Then the needless wars and huge bailouts and the Federal Reserve printing billions of dollars driving the value of the currency even farther down. Company's sending jobs over seas while we, along with Walmart prompt up China's economy.
Congress now passing laws that clearly are against the constitution.
Meanwhile people are glued in to American idol sitting on sofas and could care less about what is going on in this country as long as they got mindless entertainment to keep them happy.



We have a bunch of soulless clowns in Washington who could care less about how the American populace struggle to get by.

Its like a bad episode of the twilight zone and I fear for our children and grand children if things do not change.

We have let our rulers sway from the Constitution , we have swayed from morals and ethnics and now this is the price we pay. You are seeing history repeat itself folks, the fall of another empire caused by the greed and poison within.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:03 PM
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When I get elected I'll make you a senior advisor- You will be fine.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:05 PM
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Why?

What did I do?



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:05 PM
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As it is now, the Market is rigged for people to exploit others for their own gain.


The Market is rigged for shareholders and their hunger for profit. It's not about the workers, it's about the profit. That's all that matters. That's why all the major corporations left after free trade was implemented. The profits were no longer there, couldn't compete with slave labor because Americans wanted pensions and a good salary...so the major corporations left...using slave labor themselves....but they knew this would happen with free trade. It's always about the profits after all...not for the betterment of country or it's people. Corporations don't care about a country's sovereignty or it's people....they only care to manipulate it for their own needs.

I lost former job to outsourcing. We were a profitable company....but not profitable enough. They relocated to Mexico to avoid taxes and to pay their employees crap wages with no benefits......yet the people I worked with were angry with Mexicans.

It wasn't the Mexicans fault....it was the greedy ass rich white shareholders that did us in. I really miss that place....worked with some great people....from the bottom all the way to the plant manager. He actually cried when he told us we were all losing our jobs. it was a company that worked together, everyone was on the same team.

Seems that is nearly gone in the US....although there are still some good guys out there....



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by cloaked4u

Originally posted by cloaked4u
FOR A SINGLE PERSON:
$9 hr. =360 a week - federal tax of $50. - state tax $15. - medical $5. = a check of $290. a week, $1160. month.
$10.hr=400 a week- federal tax of $55- state tax $20. - medical $10. = a check of $315. a week, $1260. month.
$11.hr=440 a week- federal tax of $60- state tax $25. - medical $15. = a check of $340. a week, $1360. month.
$12.hr=480 a week- federal tax of $65- state tax $30. - medical $ 20.= a check of $365. a week, $1460. month.
$13.hr=520 a week- federal tax of $70- state tax $35. - medical $25. = a check of $390. a week,$1560. month.
$14.hr=560 a week- federal tax of $75- state tax $40. - medical $30. = a check of $415. a week,$1660. month.
$15.hr=600 a week- federal tax of $80- state tax $45.- medical $35.= a check of $440. a week, $1760. month.
$16.hr=640 a week- federal tax of $85- state tax $50.- medical $40.= a check of $465. a week, $1860. month.
$17.hr=680 a week- federal tax of $90- state tax $55- medical $45= a check of $490. a week, $1960. month.
$18.hr=720 a week- federal tax of $95- state tax $60- medical $50= a check of $515 a week, $2060. month.
$19.hr=760 a week- federal tax of $100- state tax $65- medical $55= a check of $540 a week, $2160. month.
$20.hr=800 a week- federal tax of $105- state tax $70- medical $60= a check of $565. a week,$2260. month.
$21.hr=840 a week- federal tax of $110- state tax $75- medical $65= a check of $590. a week,$2360. month.
$22.hr=880 a week- federal tax of $115- state tax $80- medical $70= a check of $615. a week,$2460. month.

NOW WITH THESE FIGURES IN MIND: and this is very close to actuals even tho they take out more.

For a single person, basic needed living exspenses: Necessities only.

Average rent: $850. a month.
Electric: most rental units do not pay electric and you almost always has an electric stoves. ave. bill=$100 month
Phone: $65 a month.
Gas car to go to work, average 25 miles to work.To fill my tank is $35. and i go thru 2 fills a week.=$70.
Insurance car: $50. a month.
Food: $200. a month.
TOTALS: $1,545. A MONTH. Lets see if the guy making $9 an hour can make it, YOU DECIDE.

$9hr. NOPE
$10hr. NOPE
$11hr. NOPE
$12hr. NOPE
$13hr. YES, BARELY, NOT RECOMMENDED
$14hr. YES, BARELY, NOT RECOMMENDED
$15hr. YES
$16hr. YES
I feel sorry for those that have children. This only makes things worse.
Most places around here hire you thru temp. services, because buisnesses do not want to pay for health insurance on a newbie. Most temp. services around here start you at $9 dollars an hour. More often what happens they don't hire you after your 90 day trial period and you end up quitting or they say that they don't need you anymore. This practice has been going on since the 80's. If you say something about this they get rid of you and say there is no more work to be done and then they go and hire a new temp and start the process all over again. THIS IS THE NEW FACIST ECONOMY WE HAVE HERE.
Most people get one or two roomates, because they cannot afford to live in the apartments. Rent usually goes up from $850 a month for a one bedroom to a two bedroom apartment.
THE BANKS did not take a cut for our recession. That is why the rent on apartments did not go down at all, it only went UP.
The way around here is, it is helpful to have a two or more person system with helping the bills. Laws here say that you can have only 1 person per bedroom under the age of 12. Remember, the more bedrooms the more exspensive it is to pay.







BIG CORPORATE BANKSTERS. IF these people lowered housing. WE THE PEOPLE would have more money in our pockets to spend, THUS BUISNESS WILL THRIVE. WE ARE GETTING chopped off at the knees here. I am not putting down buisnesses. IN FACT, i'm showing how we are getting ELIMINATED. Tell the big corporate banksters to cut housing costs in HALF. So instead of a $850 a month rent , it would be 425. This would give people more money to spend somewhere else and buisness will THRIVE. OK.



ONE of my points of so many glarring issues on our ECOMOMY.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:10 PM
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I was thinking that since America has an army of unemployed people that would be willing to work for minimum wage why isnt more stuff produced on US soil?

Liberals and PETA. Most factories here shut down when they had huge taxes placed on them to pay for "damage to the environment" and much more. Eventually they couldn't compete with foreign entities who were dumping (selling for cheaper than it costed to make) their goods. Now 99.9% of the goods in stores are from overseas.

Originally posted by ldyserenity
I agree with your assessment, and raise you that pretty soon we will see our children working in factories

There are no factories, so that's not something to worry about!

Americans are being crushed under the jackboot of psychopathic leadership while simultaneously strangling on their own stupidity. Ultimatley the country is just a huge free-for-all, it always has been ("freedom" has more than one meaning...), like ants swarming over a huge mountain of sugar. Seriously, that in a nutshell is the story. And now the sugar is mostly gone and there are a lot of angry, jonsing ants just piling over each other. The US economy has become autocannibalistic, everyone has a scam and a hustle and an angle to survive. That's what its come to but the blame spreads in so many directions from the highest to the low there is little anyone can do but stand back in awe, nodding your head at how amazingly, beyond-belif screwed we really are.
+1 to that^
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:10 PM
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It actually gets worse- there's a lot of 1099 abuse going on in America right now.

I know a couple who have been living off savings for 2 years. He is very skilled, she isn't. Well, long story short, they were hitting the bottom of savings and were living with food stamps as their ONLY income.

He finally found work- both of them work ALL month long as janitors now- for 1k a month. 1099. That means they are making much, much less than minimum wage. BUT how else can they keep their home and a roof over the kids?

There is a whole, whole lot of 1099 abuse going on to get around the minimum wage.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by MrWendal
Yes Minimum Wage is the US is $7.25 or $7.35 per hour. I forget which one it is.

It is very very very difficult to live on minimum wage. Most people who live on minimum wage usually are forced to work two jobs, 6 and 7 days a week, and even then they still struggle to make ends meet. About 10 years ago the creator of the movie "Super Size Me", Morgan Spurlock, had his own TV show on the FX channel called 30 days. The idea behind the show was the same as "Super Size Me". In "Super Size Me" Morgan Spurlock ate only McDonalds food for 30 days straight, 3 times per day, and his health was watched very carefully. If no one has seen that movie, I suggest watching it. It really highlights the dangers of what we consider "food" here in the US.

Anyway... one of his shows on 30 Days was to live for 30 days on Minimum Wage. It is a very eye opening show and it will give you an idea of how people who work for minimum wage actually live. Keep in mind, this show was filmed PRIOR to the housing collapse, prior to the recession, prior to all the events we have happening now. So by today's standards, things are actually worse.












Something has to be done to fix our economy. My thought was that this and other issues like how rent never went down during this recession in fact it went UP. THAT IS NOT RIGHT. Rent should be 425 a month for a 1 bedroom than 850 or higher here in MN.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:14 PM
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I'll work for 7.50 an hour if you can reverse 20 years of inflation. In the early 80's you could support a family of 4 on that and own a home, couple vehicles and buy gasoline for 30 cents a gallon. Now here we are still making the same amount hourly, but with inflation at 1000%. The cost of 1g of gas could of bought you 10g's in 1980's. How bad will it be in another 20 years?? If we even make it that far.
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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You guys are surprised by the minimum wage in US!. Try Mexico!, the minimun out here is $52.00 pesos PER DAY!
That is 3.85 dollars per day. So, your minimun out here is like heaven on earth to many people.... on the other hand, we have the most expensive, ignorant, useless and dumb politicians in the whole planet. A supreme court judge makes around 600,000.00 pesos PER MONTH, that´s like $44,500 dollars per Month, or $533,000 per year... sad story huh?



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:22 PM
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Welcome to our world (the netherlands) where it isnt much higher.

Just be glad ur not in the full stranglehold of the NWO yet.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by hadriana
It actually gets worse- there's a lot of 1099 abuse going on in America right now.

I know a couple who have been living off savings for 2 years. He is very skilled, she isn't. Well, long story short, they were hitting the bottom of savings and were living with food stamps as their ONLY income.

He finally found work- both of them work ALL month long as janitors now- for 1k a month. 1099. That means they are making much, much less than minimum wage. BUT how else can they keep their home and a roof over the kids?

There is a whole, whole lot of 1099 abuse going on to get around the minimum wage.


Even though you didn't name any names or personal information.

You just broke the first rule of tax laws.

Turn him in, if you think they are breaking the rule, Not on some web forum.

Go to the tax office for that, if you believe, there is a problem.

And always, document verbatim, each and every person! I don't care who they are.
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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Price of gas before the last presidential election $1.50.

After Obama.

$3.70

That $200 extra a month for me to get to work.

Obama bought me a car but I can't see or find it. It was probably repo'd being used for government transportation.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by David9176
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As it is now, the Market is rigged for people to exploit others for their own gain.


The Market is rigged for shareholders and their hunger for profit. It's not about the workers, it's about the profit. That's all that matters. That's why all the major corporations left after free trade was implemented. The profits were no longer there, couldn't compete with slave labor because Americans wanted pensions and a good salary...so the major corporations left...using slave labor themselves....but they knew this would happen with free trade. It's always about the profits after all...not for the betterment of country or it's people. Corporations don't care about a country's sovereignty or it's people....they only care to manipulate it for their own needs.

I lost former job to outsourcing. We were a profitable company....but not profitable enough. They relocated to Mexico to avoid taxes and to pay their employees crap wages with no benefits......yet the people I worked with were angry with Mexicans.

It wasn't the Mexicans fault....it was the greedy ass rich white shareholders that did us in. I really miss that place....worked with some great people....from the bottom all the way to the plant manager. He actually cried when he told us we were all losing our jobs. it was a company that worked together, everyone was on the same team.

Seems that is nearly gone in the US....although there are still some good guys out there....



thank you for that good work there, thanks, i too lost my job overseas and i loved that job and alot of it's people i worked with.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:32 PM
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I wish more outsiders like yourself would speak-up and let the people in this country realize that America is not all what they think it is. There are citizens here who are barely making ends meet, but will buy the propaganda that politicians dish out hook line and sinker.

Not only is the minimum wage too low, our health care system is set-up so only the healthy can get the best treatment. If you're old and need assisted living it even gets worst. Nursing homes cost the elderly over $3,000 dollars a month, and that doesn't include those that need 24 hour assisted care. My mother is currently in a home paying over $130 dollars a day. We've had to sell her home and all her possessions just to pay for it. If she knew she lost her home and how much her kids were paying a day, she would walk out before having us pay another dime.

You can work your whole life here expecting to leave your kids and grand kids a nice little inheritance, except if you live too long and need daily care it wipes out all your assets! If you don't have enough money to pay for the "good nursing homes with great facilities" you have to settle for a urine smelling, shared hospital room where you're expected to lie in bed 24 hours a day! Why should people who are well off, be treated better than those of us who have worked their entire lives on an average salary. Their life isn't worth anymore than the homeless guy on the street! Human dignity and caring for another human being is a basic right that people the world over shouldn't have to worry about.

My family has had our feel of our uncaring healthcare system here. Here's another story that hits home, my sister had to have emergency surgery, but she was laid off. She had no health insurance so the hospital now has a lien on her home and has emptied her savings except for $3,000 dollars to help pay for the cost of the surgery!

Yeah, people in America don't realize how their government, insurance companies, bankers and the corporate elite screw us. They'll just keep on electing these same officials who cater to the people who screw us. If I could star your thread and flag it a hundred times I would.




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