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Originally posted by Laokin
It's not death toll. It death toll by violence. There is a huge difference there. I can list hundreds of other subjects, however -- I was just making a quick point. Also, Ted Talks? Really?????
Originally posted by juveous
Originally posted by Laokin
Originally posted by juveous
reply to post by blocula
and your case is equally comparable to walking in a room only looking down and telling everyone there is no ceiling. Also, why is hell getting better? We are not living in the worst times of our existence, not even close.
Isn't this subjective?
I would say we are for every advancement comes with it's own series of back pedaling.
Holy crusade = 3,000,000 deaths.
WW2 = 63,000,000 deaths.
How can you say we aren't living in the worst of times? The next world war will be approximate or larger in death toll if history is anything to go by.
I don't know if you've been watching lately, but we are gearing up for number three. 6 of the worlds greatest super powers are about to get it on over Iran....
Not to mention, the world has been in a perpetual state of war since the crusades and well before them too... If we tallied the ongoing body count of just the US in the last 100 years it would trump any existing figure known to man.edit on 9-12-2011 by Laokin because: (no reason given)
Most guys who speak at Ted, are totalitarians/fascists, et al, in disguise.
I also argue that the standard of living hasn't increased at all. Ever. For those that had the highest standard of living still have the highest standard of living as well as the inverse. With the increase in population there are more people at the lowest base line then ever.
Sure, as time advances things like "Fire" were invented. I wouldn't say this makes the standard of living better relative to the rest of the population.
I.E.
Poor people are poor, poor people are struggling. Poor people have always struggled and will almost always struggle. Just because they have "T.V." doesn't some how make their struggle easier. The "standard" of living is not what you have, but what you have in relevance to what everyone else has.edit on 10-12-2011 by Laokin because: (no reason given)
What i think is going on here,why theres so many massive amounts of doomed before their even delivered babies being born inside these wretched hell swept 3rd world nations is that the women,for the most part,are being raped by the dominating men who just dont give a damn and then the women have no available abortion to turn to...look at hollywood and then look at the above picture and behold their sickening polarities,for they are the opposites of two extremes, lots of money and no money at all.The above photo and 10,000 more just like it is living proof of a living hell called earth...
Originally posted by Section31
Originally posted by blocula
Why?...Why??? do people keep having doomed babies ^^^ in these kinds of wretched countries...WHY???????
Originally posted by Awoken4Ever
reply to post by grubblesnert
In fact, don't talk to us about it, explain it to them that life is what they make of it:
Amazes me what comes out of the mouths of people that were given everything, and they actually think it is what they made of it...LOL
Question should be - If they know the hellish conditions they live in, why do they bring another innocent life into the world?
Making choices results in positive and negative consequences. Freewill and individualism go hand and hand. Now, you know why Obama's push against individualism is flawed. If more and more people think there are no consequences, the personal choices they make in life will result in more hellish conditions. Imagine trying to train someone who is complacent, for they have relied on the government all their lives. Once people start relying on other individuals, their survival rate becomes extremely weakened. Now, imagine if the government system collapsed, and everyone who relied upon it lost government assistance. Since they relied on the government for everything, they are unable to survive when left alone.
Irony.
edit on 12/10/2011 by Section31 because: (no reason given)
pleasure doesnt exist without pain...what??? thats not at all true,people who say that have been conditioned into accepting the hellish state of our world as something that has to be,thats just not true at all,a persons body thats pain free,is,pain free,it doesnt hurt,so why should it have to hurt? because the world tries to make it hurt?...
Originally posted by RatoAstuto
I hate to see it when people post something like this, and it's even worse when they actually say it. Not the list of inconveniences, but the idea that they are proof that we are in hell.
First off, pleasure doesn't exist without agony, so it could be said that the OP's list of "bad" things are simply the bitter spices that accentuate the sweet taste of life and it's unending pleasures.
Secondly, the whole idea of hell is centered around the idea of punishment, and to truly be punished you must know what you did to cause said punishment.. Knowing that you caused your own agony is indeed the point of punishment.