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I Present My Case That We Are In Hell

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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 08:20 AM
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The devil was cast down to the earth in the same way that scientists don't know where we really came from.
This lovely place and its lush grass and paradise oceans and islands is being turned into a toxic nuclear self generated wasteland.
Where did we actually come from anyway? Don't forget to wear your suncream because it actually does make your skin fall off if you stand out in it for too long.
Even the wind is a bad thing. There isn't an opposite for everything on Blocula's list, how do you come up with a good version of a hurricane? Oh a a good sunny peaceful day which causes sunburn.
Like i said before dont forget your suncream because the fire of hell is so hot that you need protection incase your skin falls off.




posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by 1littlewolf
I present my case that we can all find heaven on Earth, if we simply open our eyes and look

Misty mornings, old books, children’s laughter, dancing in the rain, dew on spider webs, sunsets sunrises, dark forests, snow capped peaks, chocolate, pizza, first kisses, trees, true love, laughter, comedy, birds, butterflies, old stone churches, morning light, storm swept lonely beaches, Art, best friends, clouds, Autumn, meditation, first snow, first day of Spring, stars, full moon, long walks, untouched wilderness, stained glass, long hot showers, incense, fireworks, owls, waking up before next to your beloved and watching them sleep, babies smile, cherry blossoms, red wine, weed, peaches, fond memories, babies eyes, baby animals, poetry, first steps, women looking over their shoulder and smiling at you, anyone smiling at you, green leaves against a blue sky, slate grey rainy days, walking across grass barefoot, black and white movies, camp fires, marsh mellows, icy cold beer on hot hot day, daydreams, steamy passionate monkey sex, walking in the rain, skinny dipping, singing, candle light, roses, Summer, your inner child, belly buttons, laugh lines, wooden cottages in the woods, old couples holding hands, young couples holding hands, Friday afternoons, old museums, Christmas……..

I rest my case


I second this

And thanks for typing it all out littlewolf, for those of us thinking the same thing but too lazy to do it



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 08:34 AM
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Is this the part of Festivus where we air grievances?

I think the OP needs to try a little harder to enjoy life.

That whole argument is a whinefest. Grow up.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by humphreysjim
What about:

flowers, boobies, lady bits, boobies, butterflies, boobies, computer games, movies, fresh air, trees, boobies, etc

Hell? I don't think so.
Let me take on your list of supposedly good things one by one and see what they really are...

Flowers...Pretty poisons like foxglove,belladonna and a lot of others that will put you in the ground if ingested and some will poison you by just touching them.

Boobies...Are actually only for babies nourishment and they have been twisted into something sexual,used to make money from in porn movies,are extremely over rated and used to lure men...

Lady bits...Not exactly sure what you mean by that phrase,but i'll guess your talking about a womans anatomy,that has also been twisted into something its not,highly overrated and used to make a profit,theres 3 billion women,give or take a few hundred million,whats all the fuss about?...seriously?

Butterflies...One of millions of insect species that are nothing but food for birds and when seen from the perspective of a lot of other insects,is nothing more than a flesh eating,winged monster.

Computer games...That make children lose touch with day to day reality,shows them violence and is another thing in our electronic revolution that is dehumanizing us by stopping us from looking at and talking to eachother.

Movies...Pornos,selling over rated sex for over inflated prices and snuff films.

Fresh air...Is there really any fresh air left and if there is,enjoy your fresh air while most of the world breathes in smog,soot and carcinogens which gives them all kinds of diseases and your fresh air,any air at all,keeps you alive in hell...

Trees...This is a true story...Family picnic comes to tragic end when a heavy branch fell from a large tree and landed on them killing them all as they seeked its shade to enjoy their food together...

I rest my case...We are not in lotus land...We are in hell...imo...
edit on 9-12-2011 by blocula because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 08:41 AM
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If this is what you truly believed and what you see in life, then y'all wouldn't be hanging out on sites like ATS looking for answers in the bigger picture IMO. Why would you surround yourselves with the horror and gloom of conspiracies if this was really your outlook
You could just cut this stuff out and have a big hugging party LOL

I am sure picking flowers and hugging each other will help to not look at what is really happening all around you. Maybe you should spend some time in the projects for a while and discuss those wonderful topics and see what kind of a response you get. Sure they are wonderful things you mentioned, but your probably only seeing black and white then. I doubt either of you have ever been homeless, not sure how you were going to eat, and never had access to things that we take for granted all the time. Spend some time doing that for a while and then come talk to me about the wonderful things in life. Have your kids die in your arms because some people want to fight over who's God is really right and then we will see how you feel.

It's easy to look at the world through rose colored shades. One month homeless in the streets in a dangerous area and you would see everything different....I promise.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by humphreysjim
I rest my case...We are not in lotus land...We are in hell...imo...
edit on 9-12-2011 by blocula because: (no reason given)


First off, my post was obviously partly humourous and is not even close to an exhaustive list of things that are good in the world. Try to embrace a little humour, it might help you escape your mental hell for a moment.

Secondly, taking a one-sided utterly pessimistic view of every little thing you encounter is not "making a case for hell", it is making apparent an obvious mental disorder on your part. Seek help, your "hell" is your own personality, and that is changeable.

I certainly hope you don't have to experience "real" hell is your life.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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they wont bc they lie about everything as their gods, everyone know everything when freedom is the truth while one least intention of move is its constant positive end from getting above all what is already most superior free objectively realized to achieve that end by the free intention itself reality, so all is known for sure
that how also evil are surprisingly more intelligent then true ones focusing on themselves rights to not reduce others realities while also in focusing on their realities they are knowing all

that is how who experience bad or worse conditions in life never change, bc what is negative is secondary so always nothing, u perceive there only ur relative needs which explain how in those environments only criminals exist as being realities end of free wills,

freedom only exist, objectively and subjectively, existence is relative to freedom as freedom is the exclusive superior max that reach a pic positive end least



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:19 AM
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Source




The Real Difference
between Heaven and Hell



A man spoke with the Lord about heaven and hell.

The Lord said to the man, "Come, I will show you hell." They entered a room where a group of people sat around a huge pot of stew. Everyone was famished, desperate and starving. Each held a spoon that reached the pot, but each spoon had a handle so much longer than their own arm that it could not be used to get the stew into their own mouths. The suffering was terrible.



"Come, now I will show you heaven," the Lord said after a while. They entered another room, identical to the first - the pot of stew, the group of people, the same long-handled spoons. But there everyone was happy and well-nourished.

"I don't understand," said the man. "Why are they happy here when they were miserable in the other room and everything was the same?"

The Lord smiled. "Ah, it is simple," he said. "Here they have learned to feed each other."




I also tend to think this dimension we are in, could be the equivalent of hell. Think about the quoted piece. Then think about reality. In reality, there are good, great, and amazing things. However, we live in a world filled with negativity and selfishness. We live in a world where the wicked prosper, while the ones with good intentions bottom feed. We live in a world were greed is so rampant that human nature is, in a generalization, to not care about those you do not know. It is sad too see. It is even more disheartening, when so many people refuse to acknowledge just how superficial and greedy they are.

That being said, I have long believed, deep down, that this experience we are partaking in is a test, or a game. Kind of like, you stay here and repeat life until your consciousness is ready to move to the next level. Maybe there is a hell tho, and all of us have just left that location to come here, only to go to the benevolent level when we are ready. Who am I to know anything?



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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We also have all of the opposite, it is your choice which you choose to live on.

I personally believe that we are in Heaven, and because our perspective is screwed up we forget that...



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:32 AM
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I disagree.

These things tell me my life is not hell: love, empathy, nature, beauty, kindness, grace, uniqueness, happiness, helpfulness, compassion, quietness, smiles, laughter, children, animals, cool breezes, sunset, sunrises, trees, gardens, rose bushes, colors, music, playing, snow, cold water, ferns, dreams, art, my mini zen garden, yoga, apple pie, turkey, baking, cookies, togetherness, traveling, listening, learning, reading, thinking.

On the other hand, I am lactose intolerant and can't regularly eat good things like ice cream, milk chocolate, whipped cream, string cheese, yogurt, mousse, sour cream, and so on. I can see how that would be hell for some people.

At any rate, my life now is significantly happier than it was 15 years ago. If this is hell, I can live with it.

Do you think hell could evolve into heaven?
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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I dont believe that we have our opposites,a few replies back,someone gave a list of supposedly good things and i was easily able to show how each and everyone of them are actually bad,its all about manufactured points of view and false perceptions about our cold and brutal reality,people walking around with blinders on,people only seeing what they want to see through rose colored glasses and people living in denial about whats really going on in this world...

No one is an island and everyone of those terrible things that i put in that horrible list is happening to and being forced upon millions of different people,including little children,on a perpetual and continuous basis...
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by 1littlewolf
I present my case that we can all find heaven on Earth, if we simply open our eyes and look

Misty mornings, old books, children’s laughter, dancing in the rain, dew on spider webs, sunsets sunrises, dark forests, snow capped peaks, chocolate, pizza, first kisses, trees, true love, laughter, comedy, birds, butterflies, old stone churches, morning light, storm swept lonely beaches, Art, best friends, clouds, Autumn, meditation, first snow, first day of Spring, stars, full moon, long walks, untouched wilderness, stained glass, long hot showers, incense, fireworks, owls, waking up before next to your beloved and watching them sleep, babies smile, cherry blossoms, red wine, weed, peaches, fond memories, babies eyes, baby animals, poetry, first steps, women looking over their shoulder and smiling at you, anyone smiling at you, green leaves against a blue sky, slate grey rainy days, walking across grass barefoot, black and white movies, camp fires, marsh mellows, icy cold beer on hot hot day, daydreams, steamy passionate monkey sex, walking in the rain, skinny dipping, singing, candle light, roses, Summer, your inner child, belly buttons, laugh lines, wooden cottages in the woods, old couples holding hands, young couples holding hands, Friday afternoons, old museums, Christmas……..

I rest my case

I'm glad you beat me to it. Coming up with all this beauty would have been a HELL of a job




posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:48 AM
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The best slave is the one whos told to think hes free..

And as we refuse to believe and accept where we really are,where our souls have been thrown,into hell...

We will be forced to endure it over and over and over again as our memories of past lives and our feelings of de ja vu more or less proves...

And if the following three words,their true meanings and their living expressions were raised from their graves, exhumed and brought back to life and showered upon eachother,this hell we are all trapped in would suddenly start to fade away...Empathy,Compassion and Love...

But the evil powers that be and evil organized religions of this fallen world,with their endless mantras of control and domination and their manufactured rat races built of fear,hate and greed makes it almost impossible for us to live for only helping and loving eachother and their twisted,warped and sinister plans are working perfectly...
edit on 9-12-2011 by blocula because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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Sex is proof this isn't hell


Actually I think what others have already stated, We make our own heaven and hell right here on earth



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by damwel
Sex is proof this isn't hell


Actually I think what others have already stated, We make our own heaven and hell right here on earth
Sex,lust,sin and temptation,are the prime candidates for how souls are delivered into hell.Sex is extremely over rated,how is it not? There are around 3 billion women in this fallen world,give or take a few hundred million,whats so great about it?...seriously?

Its just a chemical and hormonal drive for procreation,making babies and sex has been turned into a billion dollar porno industry built upon the backs of lonely and disowned men,men who were conveniently thrown out of the home by,lying,say what men want to hear,backstabbing,golddigging women,who will toss men aside,after,the mens baby making abilities are procured through her lies,deceptions and her weapons of sex allure...

And their children will grow up without a stern father figure in the financial gain induced broken home,push their mothers around and run wild in the streets...

Then with the womans meal ticket firmly in her hands,the baby,that man she once professed love for and took into her open arms,will be suddenly demonized and driven down to his financial knees and threatened with prison by a warped justice system that encourages women to shatter the american family,its foundations and its values and that baby is going to go to college,even though lots of college graduates get nowhere except more indebt, just to ensure four more years of child support,four more years of riding on and living off of his broken back...

I didnt create any of the things i put in my opening list,they are all forced upon us and we have no choice but to endure them and sooner or later to be killed by them and then we are reborn and made to live through them all over again and again and hand in hand with them,walking side by side with misery,pain and death everystep of the way,we merrily sing and dance with the damned within the denied depths of eternal hell...
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by blocula
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I dont believe that we have our opposites,a few replies back,someone gave a list of supposedly good things and i was easily able to show how each and everyone of them are actually bad


OF COURSE! Like a I said, it is your PERSPECTIVE that is making this look so evil... even the good things you see as evil because of your perspective...


Originally posted by blocula
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its all about manufactured points of view and false perceptions about our cold and brutal reality,people walking around with blinders on,people only seeing what they want to see through rose colored glasses and people living in denial about whats really going on in this world...


Again, your perspective...


Now I must ask you a question. Do you like this perspective or do you want a more happy perspective?



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by blocula
I present my case that we are in hell...


This may be the region near it but its too much positive vibes still here TO BE hell KINGDOM FULLY.


Luke 16:19-31
New International Version (NIV)


The Rich Man and Lazarus

19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day.

20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores

21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried.

23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.

24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’

25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.

26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’

27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family,

28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’

31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”


[COLOR=GOLD]I shared this blocula to alert how the senses are still active in both these dimensions where Lazarus was located and the rich 1.

NAMASTE*******
LOVE LIGHT ETERNIA

[/COLOR]


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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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What " i " meant by perspectives and points of view is that unfortunately,yet undeniably,everything is bad,its just that so many people walk around with blinders on,seeing only what they want to see through rose colored galsses,while living in denial about whats really going on in this fallen world,whats really happening to all of us,how we are all in turn forced to endure, misery, suffering, fear, hate, greed and death and a couple hundred or so other such things on a perpetual and continuous basis...

"The rain is beautiful"...No its not,it floods and drowns..

"The sunshine is beautiful"...No its not,it withers,fades,burns and gives skin cancer...

"The snow is beautiful"...No its not,it freezes and frostbites,it creates blinding blizzards that break peoples backs,gives them heart attacks while shoveling it and crashes cars and people into eachother...

"The birds are beautiful"...No they are not,from the perspective of insects they are carniverous,flying beasts swooping down from the sky to devour and destroy...


In an earlier reply,someone gave a list of good things and so let me take that list of supposedly good things and lets see what they really are with our blinders and rose colored glasses removed...

"Flowers"...Pretty poisons like foxglove,belladonna and a lot of others that will put you in the ground if ingested and some will poison you by just touching them.

"Boobies"...Are actually only for babies nourishment and they have been twisted into something sexual,used to make money from in porn movies,are extremely over rated and used to lure men...

"Lady bits"...Not exactly sure what you mean by that phrase,but i'll guess your talking about a womans anatomy,that has also been twisted into something its not,highly overrated and used to make a profit,theres 3 billion women,give or take a few hundred million,whats all the fuss about?...seriously?

"Butterflies"...One of millions of insect species that are nothing but food for birds and when seen from the perspective of a lot of other insects,is nothing more than a flesh eating,winged monster...

"Computer games"...That make children lose touch with day to day reality,shows them violence and is another thing in our electronic revolution that is dehumanizing us by stopping us from looking at and talking to eachother...

"Movies"...Pornos,selling over rated sex for over inflated prices,another way we lose touch with our day to day reality,making men see women in ways that most of them will never be and of course,snuff films...

"Fresh air"...Is there really any fresh air left? and if there is,enjoy your fresh air while most of the world breathes in smog,soot and carcinogens which gives millions of different people every day all kinds of diseases and your fresh air,any air at all,helps to keep you alive in hell...

"Trees"...This is a true story,family picnic comes to tragic end when a heavy branch fell from a large tree and landed on them killing them all as they seeked its shade to enjoy their food together...

We are not in lotus land...We are in hell...imo.


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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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Exactly, in YOUR OPINION. It is your PERSPECTIVE...


You can say that the water is beautiful because it keeps the plants growing which would be a positive perspective or you can say it is bad because of reasons x, y, or z.

You can CHOOSE to focus on the good qualities or the bad qualities. They are BOTH THERE.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 11:17 AM
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You wear your day to day crash helmet and your sun cream and drive around and produce toxins and pretend its all good you're # scared of this terrifying truth and it doesn't matter because heaven is a place on earth and as long as you feel you're there it doesn't matter about the the petty naysayers



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