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Hello from Germany... Very strange thing happened here yesterday!

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posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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Hi,

I am from Germany (near Frankfurt a.M.) and yesterday we had a very strange event here.

Officials claim, that two fighterjets went supersonic because the communication to a Oman-bound Airliner got lost. It was about 11.30am local time when my house (and many other's houses around me up to 90miles!) shook and a loud thunder could be heard. There are even reports of broken windows!

The thing is: officials say that they went supersonic at an altitude of ~6800miles. But a spokesman of the air traffic control said exactly one week ago - when something similar happened in Karlsruhe/ Germany - that it is unlikely one would hear a sonic boom when this far up in the sky.
What do you make of this?

There are further contradictions: Officials said it were Belgian F16 who went up in the sky because the signal got lost over Belgium (the flight came from London). But today the Belgian Air Force denied they entered the German Air Space. The German Air Force for their part claimed they did not sent jets up in the sky...

Here is a video of the thunder, because a local news reporter conducted an interview at the same time by coincidence: www.youtube.com...




posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Sounds like all the typical weirdness and lies that fly around before large world type wars start. very scary!



posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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Welcome aboard fakemeup, and thanks for reporting the anomaly. Hopefully you should get some good feedback, and I look forward to your findings.

Peace,
spec



posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by fakemeup


The thing is: officials say that they went supersonic at an altitude of ~6800miles. But a spokesman of the air traffic control said exactly one week ago - when something similar happened in Karlsruhe/ Germany - that it is unlikely one would hear a sonic boom when this far up in the sky.


You know 6800 miles is outside the earth's atmosphere, right? No plane can fly that high, not even the shuttle



posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 04:22 PM
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6800 miles is out into space. Even 68,000 feet is too high for most fighter jets. 6800 feet is really really low and could well account for all the damage and noise. But that's really weird too.



posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Welcome to ATS fakemeup!
Interesting series of events you have going on. Were there "witnesses" other than the reporter? Hopefully you'll get some answers, if not from other members here then from other locals in your area. Keep us updated if you will!



posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by webpirate
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6800 miles is out into space. Even 68,000 feet is too high for most fighter jets. 6800 feet is really really low and could well account for all the damage and noise. But that's really weird too.


As it's a European poster I assume we might be dealing with meters which works out as 22 309feet.

No idea if that makes more sense or not


Welcome to you OP



posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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No 'aircraft' can reach 6800 miles. Typical orbiting altitude of a satellite is about 500 miles Source.
Either that should be 6800 ft (relatively low cruise altitude for supersonic flight), 6800 meters (relatively high cruise altitude, most likely for such a flight). I've experienced supersonic blasts while in my house, and it really rattles the house! I could fathom how it could break windows.



posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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Welcome, Fakemeup

Very interesting! It didn't really sound like a sonic boom to me, but if it was, you're near Rhein Main. Maybe it wasn't the German air force, but the American?

Just a thought.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 04:06 AM
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fakedirt calling fakemeup..... nice handle!
anyhoo welcome. it's not one of ours as we have scrapped three for spares which leaves us with one and thats still in the hanger! only joking for the janes defence weekly subscribers!
regards fakedirt.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 04:14 AM
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Typical orbit of a GPS is 22,000 miles
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 05:04 AM
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hehe sry, I am from Europe so using "miles" is rather unusual for me. Of course you are right, it was 11000m, 11km and ~6.83 miles
Hope that doesn't damage the credibility of my post...

Well, I personally know around 400 witnesses, as a minute later facebook was full of worried posts.
But there should be a few witnesses from Koblenz to Worms. There are even unconfirmed (!) reports that people in Switzerland heard something.

Anyway, here is the news report from our local newspaper/ agency: www.allgemeine-zeitung.de... (unfortunately in german)

As I am very curious I searched a while in the internet and found this here:

www.postandcourier.com...

www.theherald.com.au...

(read the user comments!)

Interesting is, that the exact same thing happened two years ago in Canada and Australia, and later on in South Carolina/ USA. The explanations where the same: Fighterjets!
I also read of the same phenomena in Great Britain around Wales (Cardiff area).

To be honest I am not really into that 2012-Ufo-Illuminati stuff, but there are more and more things steadily occuring that make be wonder and doubt the governments explanations... and now this...

Btw @ fakedirt: I am also following jane's. What exactly are you suggesting? A military experiment? That would be the most rational explanation for me. On the other side: Why should they conduct that in such a densely populated area like the rhein-main-area? Ofshore would be ther better choice, wouldn't it?
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 05:22 AM
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have you ever heared of aliens or flying triangle stories back in the 1800s?



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 05:30 AM
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I am kinda surprised since super-sonic booms are something VERY common in Germany. I was basically raised with them. Remember that there are US bases everywhere in Germany and fighter jets can sometimes fly very low.

I am surprised a "super-sonic boom" made headlines and allegedly did a lot of damage in a very large radius. Sounds like total bunk to me.
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 05:32 AM
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Hello and welcome. Impressive first post, complete with clip


Cheers for bringing this up. It does seem slightly bizarre - is it definately confirmed to be from jets? The reason i am asking is because apparently Earth had a little bombardment yesterday of fireballs from the cosmos and just wondered if these two events may be linked?



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by Flavian
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Hello and welcome. Impressive first post, complete with clip


Cheers for bringing this up. It does seem slightly bizarre - is it definately confirmed to be from jets? The reason i am asking is because apparently Earth had a little bombardment yesterday of fireballs from the cosmos and just wondered if these two events may be linked?


Who knows..it's *likely* unless confirmed. Just to repeat again...especially in the area around Frankfurt etc. it's ridiculous why a super-sonic boom should cause headlines.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 05:46 AM
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There is NO jet in the world that flies at 6800 miles...that's 35,000,000 feet.

Maybe you need to re evaluate your OP!



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 05:49 AM
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Well it did say there were reports of breaking windows - you don't get that from jets flying at the speed of sound do you? (asking, not telling).

That's why i was wondering if linked to the reports of a bit of planetary bombardment?



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 07:42 AM
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sorry fakemeup, i was having a dig at the state of the typhoons' spare parts inventory (uk). i've been close up to the bird when it has gone full throttle climb from take-off and cherished the ear ringing for the rest of the evening.

these booms are interesting and i have heard them for a number of years now. even on clear nights with no apparent kit in the sky, it gets me wondering as to what could possibly cause such pressure waves. i am wondering also if your area was within a low pressure system at the time. this could possibly allow sonic booms to travel further, hang on, i'm crawling under the table awaiting phage to appear with the whip of trooth!
regards fakedirt.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 11:55 AM
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Yeah, I too read that it's rather common. The thing is: I am 25 years old and I NEVER experienced something like that. Plus going supersonic is prohibited when flying low - under 10000m I think - which seems especially reasonable here where I live close to the Frankfurt a.M. airport which is one of the biggest in Europe.

Meanwhile there are some news today: the matter will now be passed on to the German Bundestag (parliament) and the NATO-Bureau, because of the contradictions. It looks quiet reasonable. Still, I am very astonished because I could feel the ground shaking and from what I have heard/ read until now it's more or less impossible to hear a sonicboom this far up in the sky (6,8miles/ 11km)... And I or we did not just hear something, it was as if an airplane crashed on to the ground somewhere not too far away.
The newest article (www.allgemeine-zeitung.de...) states that the Belgian jets (although they still reject claims that they entered the German airspace) followed the airplane until Nattenheim in the Eifel, which is around 90miles (~150km) west away from where I live.

So let me sum up: Two fighterjets went supersonic at an altitude of around 6,8miles and around 90miles away from where I live and the result was a loud bang/ roaring (listen to the link posted above) plus a shaking ground. I am not a specialist, but is that really normal or even possible?

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No, I haven't. And this would be one of the last explanations seeming reasonable to me sorry...

reply to post by jrmcleod
 
See above, I already corrected myself!

Cheers


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