Bi - Polar and 15 little questions., page 3
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reply posted on 9-12-2011 @ 05:50 AM by BO XIAN
reply to post by Schkeptick



The UCSD MD head of the Psyciatrist education regarding meds gave us psychologists 30+ hours of instruction on psychoactive drugs. He was only able to give the psychiatrists at UCSD 2-3 hours of such instruction--during their whole training program.

I'd rather a psychiatrist handled such things and that's all that's legal in many jurisdictions. However, a classmate in the Navy at Bethesda prescribed drugs with no problem. I think it depends on a lot of factors and contexts.

I've known of many psychiatrists who I wouldn't want prescribing aspirin. They were typically mindless money-grubbing pill peddlers without any morality or integrity whatsoever. They "saw" their patients for 10 min max and billed to the max. I fiercely deplore such practices.


reply posted on 9-12-2011 @ 05:56 AM by SonoftheSun
reply to post by princessgrey



Hello Princessgrey,

I would encourage you to follow advice to see a psychiatrist. I am floored that you were prescribed welbutrin right off the bat. Then prescribed medication following a questionnaire?? To me, that isn't only unethical, it is unprofessional, careless and frankly dangerous. Those medication have serious secondary effects and you should be followed up, which, it seems to me, that the good doctor you have seen has no intention of doing.

When I was diagnosed with depression, I was given medication, which was changed until the right one fit (the fourth one), it was over a two months period and I was followed daily. Daily! But I had a serious psychiatrist helping me out and not just a big pharma pusher like this good doctor you've seen.

After many many months, after feeling better, the psychiatrist slowly cut down on the medication, Now I am free of any medication whatsoever.

Seek a serious practitioner, a psychiatrist. Someone who will care. They do exist.





reply posted on 9-12-2011 @ 06:09 AM by acmpnsfal
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How can a psychologist be more harmful than a psychiatrist??? Psychologusts do not have the ability to prescribe medication. They only deal with thought patterns and the like. A bad psychologist could wreak havoc on your psyche.....that could be repaired. However, a bad psychiatrist could prescribe not only the wrong medication but too high a dose and do permanent damage.



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reply posted on 9-12-2011 @ 06:10 AM by acmpnsfal
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Misread your post cant edit from mobile...disreguard....or tear it apart if you would like. It would be a waste of time though...lol.



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reply posted on 9-12-2011 @ 06:52 AM by DaughterOfARevolver
reply to post by princessgrey



ahhhhh gotta love the corruption...if you feel that strongly mabey you should stay off the pills...I think that's a testament to how the industry is pushing it...try a natural treatment...or talk To a psychiatrist with the understanding that you will not be put on drugs...what ever your doing can't be as bad as those crappy antidepressants lord knows....


reply posted on 9-12-2011 @ 07:13 AM by Tripple_Helix
Listen. I you really feel you don't have bi-polar, don't take the meds or at least get a second opinion.

That list would seem to fit most people our age. I am also 24, female.

I recently started seeing a Clinical Psychologist. Reason: I felt like I was near breaking point and was afraid I would lash out at my family. This is all due to the drug use of family members and the lies just drive me insane. I don't want these people in my life, but am forced to live and deal with them and be polite.

I mentioned to him that I have gone through some serious bouts of depression in the past (but considering the things I have been through I would consider it 'understandable') and he immediately told me " Okay, I'm thinking Bi-Polar Disorder". I said- " No way, I am definitely NOT bi-polar! "

He Pre- Diagnosed me with GAD, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, after which I had to take a Psychometric Test/IQ Test, and scored an IQ level of 125. He said that I lost 11 points on the test due to "Shaking and Sweating". He said my score will increase when my GAD is under control. Maybe I could increase it to 135, who knows?

My point is, within the test- some scores correspond to certain disorders. Mine corresponded with GAD, so I now have an Official diagnosis, which is spot on by the way..

They are very quick to jump the gun. Go see different Psychologists, stay away from the Psychiatrists, all they want to do is prescribe you meds.

In my opinion, one should only think of taking meds if it is indeed a chemical imbalance, and cannot be corrected with diet.

As far as my GAD is concerned, he had mentioned medication, but only if treatment ceases to be effective. Treatment meaning- Self expression, art, relaxation exercises, etc. I do know that meds won't make me better. They won't fix me. It's some mental pattern, some unknown fear of something that I need to work through.

Think about it. Don't just shove chemicals down your throat because someone said so.

All the best!


reply posted on 9-12-2011 @ 08:45 AM by EspyderMan
reply to post by princessgrey



These questions are almost equal to DISC profiles, created by psychologists for doctors to use to determine diagnosis of specific psychological issues, tried, tested and true. While you might find it strange it is common practice, those responding saying it's weird have never had to deal with psychology before and are clueless in my opinion, seems they will find problems with almost anything if you look at their historical postings...


reply posted on 9-12-2011 @ 08:47 AM by EspyderMan
reply to post by Tripple_Helix



*shakes head*

Why do people who are not doctors, who are diagnosed with issues, giving medical advice? It smacks of bias.

Listen to the Dr., they went to school for nearly a decade for a reason.


reply posted on 9-12-2011 @ 09:17 AM by princessgrey
reply to post by Miraj



Yes, it was my family doctor. I'm now registered on the hosipitals waiting list for a psychologist. Who knows how long that will take though..

I don't know - yesterday this all frazzled me.. today I'm feeling even worse.


reply posted on 9-12-2011 @ 09:21 AM by TylerDurden2U
reply to post by princessgrey


practicing medicine, especially psychiatry is practice when it comes to the correct amounts of a drug or the exact "cocktail" that will help tighten the rubber band of a roller coaster that your emotions may take you on. Your primary care dr may refer you to a specialist for long term care. You will know that it is working when the people who know you compliment you on your pleasant attitude, and when you wake up in the morning you say "im in a great mood"! P.S. hang in there, and caffiene, beer, and nicotine are not good !



reply posted on 9-12-2011 @ 09:23 AM by princessgrey
reply to post by SonoftheSun



Yes, I was prescribed Wellbutrin the first time I ever went in there - was probably in there for 5-7 minutes.
I didn't notice a difference at all - I felt the same other than I had to take it early in the morning so my sleep pattern got even more screwed up.

She's slowly weening me off it though, so now I'm taking Lamotrigine every morning and Wellbutrin every other day until I'm done that bottle - have a few left. Probably be gone in two weeks or so.

I'm glad to hear that you are feeling better - reading that put a smile on my face.

I'm going to see what I can do about a psychologist, thank you for your kind words.


reply posted on 9-12-2011 @ 09:48 AM by Staafke
reply to post by princessgrey


Mom: "Hi, my daughter is a drug addict and depressed!"
Doc: "A drug addict you say? Let me prescribe some drugs for her then!"

Sadly, this is such a painful reality. Do me a favour, go outside and run for your life. After you're exhausted, come back here and tell me how you feel...


reply posted on 9-12-2011 @ 11:55 PM by BO XIAN
reply to post by acmpnsfal



I don't think that routinely psychologists are likely to be MORE dangerous than psychiatrists. I may have erred in how I worded things. I'll go back and look.

However, there are cases where psychologist, imho, have contributed to demonizations and/or worsening of such states--whether wittingly or unwittingly. I'd call that more dangerous than most drug problems at the hand of most psychiatrists. Though, I think it might be a toss-up. Certainly many drug problems can also have a demonic component, imho.

I realize this assertion will attract derision. Naysayers haven't sat where I've sat in such cases.
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