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Topic started on 8-12-2011 @ 02:49 PM by Daedal
According to the Department of Justice and a report which came out in 2010, Constitutionalist, amongst other groups have been lebeled as extremist, alongside the likes of Al - Qaeda and the Aryan Brotherhood.

This is very disturbing to me because I for one support Ron Paul who is a Constitutionalist, and supporter of Freedom and Liberty....Just like many who believe in America and it's founding concepts.Also Ron Paul recieves the largest support from the military than does any other candidate, which IMO support Mr. Paul for his views on the Constitution.

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Ron Paul continues to get the most military donations of any candidate, but of particular note is the wide disparity. Also note that although Rick Santorum claims to support the troops, they sure as heck don’t support him. Reports Digital Journal:

Although Texas Republican Congressman Ron Paul may be ignored throughout the mainstream media, one report shows that the presidential candidate may have strong support from the country’s military personnel.



My question would be in relation to the National Defense Authorization Bill and it's advocacy of detaining individuals who support extremist views, in America, and the DOJ identifying individuals or groups that support the Constitution or any of the ' other ' groups as extremist.

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A recent Department of Justice guide for investigators of criminal and extremist groups lists “constitutionalists” and “survivalists” alongside organizations like Al-Qaeda and the Aryan Brotherhood. The 120-page, “Law Enforcement Sensitive” guide to “Investigating Terrorism and Criminal Extremism – Terms and Concepts” describes itself as “a glossary designed primarily as a tool for criminal justice professionals to enhance their understanding of words relating to extremist terminology, phrases, activities, symbols, organizations, and selected names that they may encounter while conducting criminal investigations or prosecutions of members of extremist organizations.”



What we do know is what Mr. Obama thinks of the founding Father's and their beliefs as he highlighted in his recent speech in Kansas.


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The US is being set-up by the Left-Wing politics right out of Chicago...via our current POTUS...and his left wing buddies...Leftist election Law practioners enjoy the steadfast support of the DOJ under Attorney General Eric Holder

Is the U.S. being hijacked by the Left to set-up the fallout of the American Society and Capitalism, and in the process Authorize the detainment of suspected terrorists using the NDAA and others who fall under their definition of extreme...Looks that way.As a matter of fact I have read recent OP's here on ATS about the American Detention Camps going operational..Here's one..

Government activating FEMA camps across the US

IMO this coming election will be a massive battle of the Left and Rightwing ideologies, and the followers of the current POTUS and the other candidates, especially Ron Paul....

Thoughts from you guys???






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reply posted on 8-12-2011 @ 03:13 PM by FurvusRexCaeli
Originally posted by Daedal
According to the Department of Justice and a report which came out in 2010, Constitutionalist, amongst other groups have been lebeled as extremist, alongside the likes of Al - Qaeda and the Aryan Brotherhood.

This is very disturbing to me because I for one support Ron Paul who is a Constitutionalist, and supporter of Freedom and Liberty....Just like many who believe in America and it's founding concepts.

My question would be in relation to the National Defense Authorization Bill and it's advocacy of detaining individuals who support extremist views, in America, and the DOJ identifying individuals or groups that support the Constitution or any of the ' other ' groups as extremist.

The NDAA does not advocate detaining all individuals who support extremist views. It only clarifies how the government can exercise its authority to detain Taliban and Al Qaeda in accordance with the 2001 Authorization for Use of Force Resolution. It reduces the government's power to arbitrarily detain people on false charges of supporting AQ by forcing the executive branch to tell the legislative branch exactly how it determines who must be detained, something the executive branch is fighting with all its might.

And yes, there have been domestic terrorists who imagine themselves constitutionalists,* so it is important that law enforcement professionals learn their ideology. It doesn't mean the Department of Justice is going to arrest Ron Paul and hand him over to the military for extraordinary rendition. (Is it not enough that Ron Paul is
Muhammad, must he be Jesus, to be handed over and suffer as well?)

* Most notably Timothy McVeigh, who thought he was defending the Constitution when he killed 168 people in Oklahoma (source).


reply posted on 8-12-2011 @ 03:16 PM by Daedal
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It is upto the POTUS to declare who is fit for arrest or not..go figure..


reply posted on 8-12-2011 @ 03:19 PM by DarthMuerte
Originally posted by Daedal
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It is upto the POTUS to declare who is fit for arrest or not..go figure..

And POTUS, or the fool currently in that position, hates freedom loving people. He certainly hates the Constitution and those who support it.


reply posted on 8-12-2011 @ 03:36 PM by Daedal
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Thanks for commenting..Surely the left and right ideological bases are responsible for attacks against the homeland..as you highlighted by Timothy Mcveigh.


reply posted on 8-12-2011 @ 08:17 PM by bone13
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With that said will Ron Paul stop the filling of the FEMA camps, or stand in front of the gate with pencil and pad and check people in, will it be a pipe dream like we got with OBAMA, A Corprate stool or not. Remember to staff the camps, will it be Military or private companys, like HB, BW, how long before the heads roll into the baskets. REPLY PLEASE
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reply posted on 8-12-2011 @ 08:30 PM by bone13
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The Theme was to have the VOTERS, say no enslavement by voting people out, but the current system buys local votes in the form of goodys, local programs, jobs, better health care. those donations go back to buy votes in the districts they come from. how many jobs where lost in your voting district, shops closing, prices going up and the elected officals keep quiet. you get what you vote for, so if you have no job, can't find work, if you did'nt vote don't complain, I vote even if its not the person who won PEACE
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reply posted on 8-12-2011 @ 08:34 PM by indigothefish
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people who support the constitution are a threat to the corrupt american government, whose tactics of genuine dictatorship over 'the people' remain antagonistic to everything the constitution stands for.

thus the correct move by our corrupt government is to label 'constitutionalists' with the likes of already feared and demoted groups of people, such as neo-nazi's, alqeada ( all CIA, duh ) among other already feared fringe groups. this way the 'sheeple', who are within the context of being labeled the majority masses, will think " constitution equals terrorism? then i HATE the constitution! "

ingenius? no, but americans are pretty easy to fool these days.. well, most of them. fortunately, the smarter ones are out there..
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