posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 12:14 AM
Don't jump the gun to fast here ATS'ers. National Guard units are under the control of the Governor of the state. So my question is who actually
slipped the survey to the National guard unit. The State Governor or the U.S. Government. If the Governor done this, then this survey needs to be
brought fourth to light of the people of that state, i.e let that survey be known. If it was our U.S. Government then I question the Governors
integrity of that state by letting the regular military slip that survey in, because they have no official command of that guard unit. It starts and
stops with Governor of that state.
My personal take on this is some elected official found a joke of Governor to slip this survey in for some kind of research, sort of testing the
waters to see if the troops will follow such an order. This kind of survey would never see the light of day in the regular active duty U.S. Forces,
because there would be such a back lash from the troops , it would under mind the current mission(s). Thus you have upheaval though the ranks. Not
to mention it would have to be approved by the Joint chiefs. So why slip the survey to a national guard unit? If there is a back lash from the troops
the Governor would feel the full force of public as an ineffective leader for putting forth such non sense in the first place. ( the Governor is
scrape goat, if things go bad.)
As for the Commander of the unit. it cleanly shows his troops do not stand with him on this. I personally think this commander should have never let
that survey see the light of day to his troops. He should have called the general in charge of the national guard units in that state and demanded a
staff meeting to include the governor. If that did not work, to then arrange a meeting with a local congressman the same people whom gave him that
commission. This whole situation points back to the Governor office of that state and a political party. I as a former senior officer I never seen
such a survey in my career, This reeks of some political parties agenda. There are many good officer in our military I would say about 98 percent of
them would be so PO'ed at something like this. This National Guard unit commander is not one of the those officers.
This gets interesting here.
just heard from Devon. He was TX’d by his Plt LDR and advised that the Specialist Who first layed down his weapon is being held in county jail by
the Bn CMDR, awaiting a hearing under the UCMJ. Devon couldn’t get any more info than that. I don’t want to post the mans name until we have more
information. I am so upset by this that I am having chest pains. How can they do this to one soldier and not them all. I will let you know how things
go. Think I might go lay down for a bit. SEMPER FI.
The most this person could get under the UCMJ is an Article 15 for not filling out the form. 30 days pay ,some extra duty. why they put this guy in
a local jail speaks volumes to me about where this survey came from; someone wants to scare him. Let me say again It starts and stops with the
Governors of that state. This guy should have a JAG officer appointed to him ASAP. His request should be to the active duty jag office so this does
not get snuffed at the state level. seems to me like someone on the state level is trying do damage control.
edit on 9-12-2011 by SJE98 because: (no reason given)