Originally posted by l_e_cox
I want to know that modern science is free for undue interference from outside parties before I start taking its work too seriously.
So before you take modern science, the thing that brought you TV, satellite communications, space flight, transistors, computers, miniaturized
computers, the internet, LCD displays, plasma screen TVs, every kitchen appliance, all of modern chemistry (through applied quantum mechanics),
biology (through applied chemistry), DNA sequencing, modern medicine, organ transplants, prosthetic limbs, MRIs, CAT scans, PET scans, modern
firefighting equipment (through the space program--really!), smoke detectors (radioactivity), robotics, modern manufacturing, cell phones, optical
mice (lasers), radio, wireless communications, wireless internet, aircraft anti-icing systems (NASA), fire resistant building material (NASA), GPS,
and hundreds of thousands of other technologies that I didn't list because I got bored of typing.... you want to know where the funding for all of
that came from before you take it "too seriously"? Really???
Incidentally, almost every one of the things on that list requires quantum mechanics to function, and many additionally require special relativity.
But, right, I forget you people believe all of this stuff came from Aliens instead of scientists.
And so you don't claim "a-ha, you avoided the question and didn't answer that proves I was right all along about the aliens / illuminati /
'TPTB'!" we get our funding from everywhere: universities, grants, donations, research funds, private corporations, etc.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
So it wasn't completely frozen in time, but that's because it was outside the event horizon. So this raises the question of what happens precisely
AT the event horizon. Does time completely stop there? I don't know, but I'm not real fond of the singularity in a black hole either so I tend to
think it's more likely to be a problem with our model and math than it is with nature. But if the model/math is right, then time indeed stops at the
event horizon from our perspective as outside observers, right?
Like I mentioned earlier, there's nothing wrong with the singularity, but the meaning of the event horizon here is just that it is the place where
the inside and outside of the blackhole become causally disconnected. It no longer makes sense to talk about how time inside and outside are related,
the two regions are not connected to each other in a way that allows that. To a person crossing the horizon, though, generally nothing special
happens, they don't notice anything as they cross. So time doesn't "stop" there, it just no longer is relatable to outside time (again, to the
person falling in nothing strange happens because they are not using the outside time).