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RON PAUL Smokes US News & World Report Poll at 61%

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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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Sorry if this is posted. Didn't turn up in search.
I watched FAUX News last night as they were making it clear Newt is the media pick for president. They went on about all the polls he's #1 in. Makes me want to puke. Keep up the good fight ya'll!
US News & World Report

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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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Yep...this is an internet poll.

The only place Paul wins....internet polls.


Please don't be shocked when he loses in the primaries.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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The Tea Party poll he won in Iowa last week wasn't online. It was a telephone poll.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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Sorry to re-post this for those that have already seen it, but according to this article, it might not really matter how he polls.


New York Times
November 7, 2012

POLL WORKERS CORRECT VOTER FRAUD

Barack Obama will continue to lead our country along the path of recovery. Yesterday's election was mired with controversy as the initial results showed that Ron Paul actually won the election. The situation was quickly rectified and the fraudulent votes for Dr. Paul were quickly identified and invalidated.

One of the election officials has stated, "It was weird. All these people 'claiming' to be Ron Paul supporters and...get this...actually casting one or more votes for this guy! Can you believe their audacity? Somehow these fraudsters managed to outnumber legitimate voters."

Another worker was quoted as saying, "It's not fair that Ron Paul just waltz in here and steal the election...just because he has a few more insurgents working for him than the other candidates."

The same situation occurred in polls across the country, in all 58 states, and in many cites, including Denver, Dallas, New York, Chicago, and even Honolulu -- the birthplace of Barack Obama. Obviously this was some sort of campaign to disrupt the fair election process this country has enjoyed for decades, if not years. In Mr. Gingrich's speech last night, he congratulated Mr. Obama on his victory and pledged to "work across party lines" to restore the faith of the American subj...er...citizens.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Ron Paul...average of 7.8% in national polls.



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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Gingrich is a placeholder, not a real front-runner candidate. If you can't see this I don't know what to tell you.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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You mind posting a source for that? I did a search and couldn't find a thing...



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by GoldenRuled
The Tea Party poll he won in Iowa last week wasn't online. It was a telephone poll.


But it wasn't random. Look at the scientific polls and you will find Paul consistently below 10% week after week, month after month.

Latest Gakllup Tracking = 9%
Rasmussen = 8%
CNN/Opinion = 9%
Quinnipiac = 6%
PPP = 5%
Pew research = 8%

The highest Paul has ever gotten is 14% and that was last August.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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i don't think anyone even has a clue where these polls come from.

the media is nothing more than a tool to maintain control over who the elite members behind the scenes choose to become president ( whoever will maintain their agenda, which definitely is not Ron Paul )



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by AnonymousCitizen
reply to post by GoldenRuled
 


Sorry to re-post this for those that have already seen it, but according to this article, it might not really matter how he polls.


New York Times
November 7, 2012

POLL WORKERS CORRECT VOTER FRAUD

Barack Obama will continue to lead our country along the path of recovery. Yesterday's election was mired with controversy as the initial results showed that Ron Paul actually won the election. The situation was quickly rectified and the fraudulent votes for Dr. Paul were quickly identified and invalidated.

One of the election officials has stated, "It was weird. All these people 'claiming' to be Ron Paul supporters and...get this...actually casting one or more votes for this guy! Can you believe their audacity? Somehow these fraudsters managed to outnumber legitimate voters."

Another worker was quoted as saying, "It's not fair that Ron Paul just waltz in here and steal the election...just because he has a few more insurgents working for him than the other candidates."

The same situation occurred in polls across the country, in all 58 states, and in many cites, including Denver, Dallas, New York, Chicago, and even Honolulu -- the birthplace of Barack Obama. Obviously this was some sort of campaign to disrupt the fair election process this country has enjoyed for decades, if not years. In Mr. Gingrich's speech last night, he congratulated Mr. Obama on his victory and pledged to "work across party lines" to restore the faith of the American subj...er...citizens.

Got a link to this? Cant find it in a search.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:50 PM
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It's a joke...look at the date of the "article"


New York Times
November 7, 2012



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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You are free to go respond to my post in that thread on the last page.

If you have it all figured out...please inform us all how Ron Paul polling flat at around 7-9% is going to win the nomination.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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Cmon people, use your freaking brain and be aware!

this graph is based on "Real Clear Politics" average polls, RCP is also an "opinion" WEBSITE. stop spreading misinformation by ignorance.


Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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Ron Paul...average of 7.8% in national polls.



edit on 7-12-2011 by OutKast Searcher because: (no reason given)

you are propaganda.

and does no one notice that this article is from the future?! how can you even respect information that precedes it's subject with "Barack will continue to lead our country"?

this is propaganda.


Originally posted by AnonymousCitizen
reply to post by GoldenRuled
 


Sorry to re-post this for those that have already seen it, but according to this article, it might not really matter how he polls.


New York Times
November 7, 2012

POLL WORKERS CORRECT VOTER FRAUD

Barack Obama



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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Action speak louder than words. Keep your eyes peeled in the RP meetups. We tend to want to results over empty promises. He spawned the Tea Party last election. What kind of surprise will there be this go around? Just because someone keeps saying something doesn't make it true unless you let it. I think for myself. i don't need DC telling me how.

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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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"Real Clear Politics" is not an "opinion" site when it comes to them reporting the polls and averaging them out.


Bury your head in the sand if you wish....just please...PLEASE...don't act all shocked when the elections pan out exactly how the polls predicted.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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I thought we were supposed to vote on the person who best represented our views


If you believe in the term "unelectable" , then you've already lost.

Just because the polls show him below ten percent, doesn't mean he always will..



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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Why do you only bother posting in the online poll and survey poll threads where Ron gets below a certain percentage? Why didn't you ever post in my threads or other ATS members when Ron showed a clear top tier status in Iowa and New Hampshire?

Because you're wrong and you know it. All you do is troll new eager supporters, you know you have nothing on Ron's real numbers. Real clear politics average means absolutely nothing because by that logic, Gingrich would be president, and Cain before that, and Perry before that. What? they were wrong!? *GASP*



Either deal with the numbers that matter and how the election works or at least try to learn. Go ask any of the campaigns if national polls matter, and they'll tell you no. So will Thompson, Giuliani, Palin, Trump, Bachmann, Perry, Cain, and eventually Gingrich. The establishment voter base don't know what they want beacause they're waiting for the media to tell them who to support next. And if you can't understand that, why do you even bother to pretend like you know everything?

Here is some homework for you Outkast Searcher, if the Iowa Caucus were to take place TODAY. Who would win?

Then report back with your findings, I hope you don't disappear to troll other Ron Paul threads after reading this.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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You're right Realclearpolitics is not an opinion site. It's a website that gathers data from polls (conducted by other companies) with 800-1000 participants in landline telephone polls, rendering those polls totally useless as well.

edit on 7-12-2011 by Wookiep because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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"About RealClearPolitics" @ realclearpolitics.com



RealClearPolitics influential and important audience, which has come to trust and depend on the site's agenda-setting, extensive and balanced coverage, is what sets RealClearPolitics apart from its competitors.


think what you will, but "agenda-setting" doesn't sound very nonpartisan or unbiased to me.

the funniest part is the very beginning of their "about me" makes them sound very independent and balanced, then they save this gem till the very last sentence.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Wookiep
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You're right Realclearpolitics is not an opinion site. It's a website that gathers votes from 800-1000 participants in landline telephone polls, rendering those polls totally useless as well.


Not true even in the slightest. That is a completely clueless statement. Real Clear Politics is reporting what OTHER POLLSTERS have reported. Pollsters such as Gallup, Pew, Rasmussen, etc. who have national reputations built over many decades of work. Those polls are scientifically valid. Those guys actually know how to do it. 1000 participants, if done in random fashion on "likely voters" are valid within the parameters set, which is usually at the .95 confidence level, which means, statistically, that the results are valid 95 out of 100 times, i.e.: the chances that the results are not valid is about 5%. They can do it at .99 if they want to, but it takes more people and is more expensive. .95 is a recognized industry standard for this kind of research.

Now we come to those polls where Ron Paul inevitably wins by a landside. How do THESE polls operate? Someone puts up a web poll. Paul supporters then advertise on their own web sites and blogs the location of the poll. They implore Paul supporters to rush over and vote in the poll. Paul wins. Duh. These are examples of unscientific polls, polls that are meaningless because the Paulistas spam them.

Now Paul supporters will turn around and say, "Well, there's nothing to prevent the supporters of other candidates from doing the same thing, so this still shows overwhelming Paul support." Wrong. It doesn't. Supporters of other candidates do not see the need to participate in such folly. It's a waste of time. The only amazing thing about these unscientific straw polls spammed by the Paulistas is that the Paulistas believe them. If they believe these straw polls are an actual indication of Paul's support, what other crazy things do they believe? Oh, that's right--they're Paul supporters. Nuf said....

Paul is at about 8% nationally. believe otherwise at your peril.
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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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What do you mean clueless statement? Do they not gather data from land-line phone polls conducted from those companies you mentioned? Do they not poll 800-1000 participants in each poll? Be sure before you answer because I have done the research and that's exactly what those polls do.

EDIT: there, I edited my original to say "conducted by other companies" since that's what you seem to be so anal about.
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