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Originally posted by dadgad
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Ok I'm going to be honest and say I'm not real sure what you mean by a resource based economy. All economy is based on one resource or another.
It is this Utopian system in which man recognizes it's evolutionary progress in terms of technical capabilities and realizes that the institution of money has become an obstacle for progress. It eliminates money entirely and focuses on managing earth resources in the most responsible and advanced ways possible. Problems are approached scientifically. Technology will become the major player in substituting human labor, anything that can be automatized will be automatized. A society in which humans will only have to do what is absolutely necessary. Humans are encouraged to do or become that what they have the most incentive for. It is recognized that everybody is unique and born different. Therefor stimulating each persons uniqueness will always contribute to the greater good.
I realize that it sounds frightening and perhaps even dystopian. And that is one of the reasons I don't see anything like this happen in any near future.
Capitalism does provide a small minority of the world with significant freedom compared to earlier times and compared to other societies around the world, and we are naturally deeply attached to it. Especially after centuries of oppression, this little freedom that we enjoy means the world to us.
At the same time, are we really free? I mean is being a wage slave being free? Are we really free living in full knowledge that devastating catastrophes are just around the corner? All this division, injustice, exploitation, ignorance, is this really "freedom''?edit on 7-12-2011 by dadgad because: (no reason given)edit on 7-12-2011 by dadgad because: (no reason given)edit on 7-12-2011 by dadgad because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by tooo many pills
Just imagine if our leaders still lived by the same principles as the majority of the Founding Fathers? How great would our country be? What about the rest of the world? Usurped is my new favorite word.
Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by tooo many pills
Just imagine if our leaders still lived by the same principles as the majority of the Founding Fathers? How great would our country be? What about the rest of the world? Usurped is my new favorite word.
Like having slaves is okay?
Slavery can be traced back to the earliest records, such as the Code of Hammurabi (ca. 1760 BC), which refers to it as an established institution.[3] Slavery is rare among hunter-gatherer populations as slavery depends on a system of social stratification. Slavery typically also requires a shortage of labor and a surplus of land to be viable.[4]
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by tooo many pills
Just imagine if our leaders still lived by the same principles as the majority of the Founding Fathers? How great would our country be? What about the rest of the world? Usurped is my new favorite word.
Like having slaves is okay?
What is the liberal obsession with slaves during the time of the American Revolution? Slaves have existed through time in all lands. They were not all of one race.
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by Misoir
Obama: Limited Gov't That Preserves Free Markets 'Doesn't Work. It Has Never Worked'
In a speech delivered at Osawatomie High School in Osawatomie, Kansas, on Tuesday, President Barack Obama argued that while a limited government that preserves free markets "speaks to our rugged individualism" as Americans, such a system "doesn't work" and "has never worked" and that Americans must look to a more activist government that taxes more, spends more and regulates more if they want to preserve the middle class...
"Now, it’s a simple theory," said Obama. "And we have to admit, it’s one that speaks to our rugged individualism and our healthy skepticism of too much government. That’s in America’s DNA. And that theory fits well on a bumper sticker. But here’s the problem: It doesn’t work. It has never worked.
Wow...BS and chop up quotes much?
He wasn't talking about free markets...he was talking about trickle down theorey.
Now, just as there was in Teddy Roosevelt’s time, there is a certain crowd in Washington who, for the last few decades, have said, let’s respond to this economic challenge with the same old tune. “The market will take care of everything,” they tell us.
If we just cut more regulations and cut more taxes -- especially for the wealthy -- our economy will grow stronger.
Sure, they say, there will be winners and losers.
But if the winners do really well, then jobs and prosperity will eventually trickle down to everybody else. And, they argue, even if prosperity doesn’t trickle down, well, that’s the price of liberty.
Now, it’s a simple theory. And we have to admit, it’s one that speaks to our rugged individualism and our healthy skepticism of too much government. That’s in America’s DNA. And that theory fits well on a bumper sticker. (Laughter.) But here’s the problem: It doesn’t work. It has never worked. (Applause.) It didn’t work when it was tried in the decade before the Great Depression. It’s not what led to the incredible postwar booms of the ‘50s and ‘60s. And it didn’t work when we tried it during the last decade. (Applause.) I mean, understand, it’s not as if we haven’t tried this theory.
www.politicalruminations.com...
Your source article is false, misleading, dishonest along with your OP title.
Originally posted by Misoir
I would never date outside my race, I even try and stick to my own ethnicity but there are few Hungarians in America. I am a racialist (not racist, don't know the difference look it up), proud of it and would never change for anything in the world. There are different ethnicities, tribes, races, etc... For a reason, it makes the whole world diverse and unique. But I guess you will only be happy once every race, or more specifically the white race, commits genocide against itself and everyone is brown, uninteresting, un-unique, and all the lowest common denominator.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
The founder were wrong on many things...slavery, not letting women vote, killing off the natives.
But they are correct about a free market ... and THAT is what Obama was saying they were wrong about. Obama worships the Euro-socialist way of doing things ... even as it falls apart and needs our $$$ to be bailed out with. It's completely irrational on his part. Unless he wants the Euro-socialist way of doing things because he knows it will destroy what's left of our economy .... and if that's the case then he's an evil destroy-america genius to be where he is now and doing what he's doing.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
What is the liberal obsession with slaves during the time of the American Revolution? Slaves have existed through time in all lands. They were not all of one race.
Originally posted by tooo many pills
Just imagine if our leaders still lived by the same principles as the majority of the Founding Fathers? How great would our country be? What about the rest of the world? Usurped is my new favorite word.
Originally posted by tooo many pills
reply to post by Ghost375
We're slaves now dude. Most Founding Fathers wanted a weak central government in that they didn't want a strong central government to be able to completely dictate control to the states. They didn't want our Bill of Rights and Constitution to be usurped away from us with such ease. They didn’t want a central bank. You can bring up Thomas Jefferson's slave issue or women's rights during the time, but the fact is if our leaders today had half the independent thinking, patriotism, and political-will to help this country progress into a true free and open democracy we would be in a much better place, as would the rest world.
Originally posted by Alxandro
Yesterday he hated this country and today he disses our forefathers.
Neither of these two statements are true. He disapproved of the way things were going. Did he keep going down the same path? Yes, and it angers me as well. But to say he hates the country is Fox News propaganda.
Only in America can a sitting Prez get away with stuff like that.
Yes, only in America the president has the right to free speech...
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We aren't slaves just because we need to work...the founding fathers had jobs as well.
There's a difference between a strong central government, and a tyrannical one. ALL of the founding fathers wanted our citizens to be free.
I'm not sure why you claim "Most Founding fathers wanted a weak central government" Do you have any evidence to support this claim?
Because they gave us a government where the power was split between the federal and the states, with the federal government receiving much more powers, not as much as today, but they gave the federal government more power than the states...
Why don't we agree to compromise like they did? The number of founding fathers who supported a strong federal government was the same as the number who supported a weak federal government.