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Originally posted by lrak2
reply to post by macman
I'm sorry, I didn't understand. What exactly do you mean?
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by lrak2
reply to post by macman
I'm sorry, I didn't understand. What exactly do you mean?
Basically statements like I would just throw away a broken car, things of that nature.
Again, no low blow intended as we kind of bounce around a bit.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by macman
Theoretically the smaller a government is in terms of departments, employees and expenditures the easier it becomes to infiltrate by outside influence. We have reached a point in human history where people have no idea what evil is and up till now could not have cared less about how it runs and for whom.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by macman
That means after 220 years of american "evolution" from british dependence everyone assumed things were improving and we became totally independent. That is not the case as we are still a british colony, and britain has alwasy been an extension of the roman empire and thus the vatican as well.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by macman
It goes much deeper but I don't want to confuse people so I will leave it there. Basically both capitalism and communism are ruled by an iron fist monarchy mentality. Democracy has never really existed as the private central bankers, who are masonic chiefs and ex-knight templars, would never allow true freedom. Left wingers tend to frown upon capitalism, religious extremism and limited government for good reason.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by macman
Anarchy is an extension of limited government in the absolute as communism is an extension of socialism in the absolute. Unless evil is known and dealt with, then anarchy would simply set everything back and restart from scratch only to have another big evil government 100 years from now. History tends to repeat itself because people never learn from their past mistakes.
You make me think and I appreciate that. Good!
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by macman
You make me think and I appreciate that. Good!
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by macman
Theoretically the smaller a government is in terms of departments, employees and expenditures the easier it becomes to infiltrate by outside influence. We have reached a point in human history where people have no idea what evil is and up till now could not have cared less about how it runs and for whom.
How so? Ever managed people?
The larger the group, the harder to manage.
As Govt has grown, the ability for the People to manage and monitor has almost gone away.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by macman
That means after 220 years of american "evolution" from british dependence everyone assumed things were improving and we became totally independent. That is not the case as we are still a british colony, and britain has alwasy been an extension of the roman empire and thus the vatican as well.
Ahh, kind of.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by macman
It goes much deeper but I don't want to confuse people so I will leave it there. Basically both capitalism and communism are ruled by an iron fist monarchy mentality. Democracy has never really existed as the private central bankers, who are masonic chiefs and ex-knight templars, would never allow true freedom. Left wingers tend to frown upon capitalism, religious extremism and limited government for good reason.
Pure capitalism, outside the Constitutional Democracy we have is as you suggest.
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
Fair enough.
While I do agree that Anarchy will only bring in More Evil. More and bigger Govt is already infiltrated by Evil.
The one good from anarchy would be that it does not last, as people will always resort to some form of order and rules.
Keeping the Govt will only give it means to continue to grow.
Sorry for not reading between the lines. I am a very literal person in so much these days.
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Indigo5
Hard to disagree with what you stated.
I might go along with it, except the idea of taxing the rich.
Taxing anyone is borderline criminal.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
A central bank is a communistic item? What? So in your bright idea we maintain the privately held central bank that has us time and time again answering to foreign elements? You think this is th way it should be?
It is you who clearly has not a clue of what they speak of. A Nationalized central bank not owned by any private entity is the only way forward.
Your true colours have now been revealed, The free market has no business in matters pertaining to that of privatization of key elements of the Governmental infrastructure!
PAID PLANT FOR THE SCUM IDENTIFIED!
Hook, line, sinker, SUNK!
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
There are those that have and those that do not have. There are lords and there are servants. A business entrepreneur is a master/lord and an employee is a payed servant. Back in the old days the king/queen would let you grow food but they would keep a good percentage of the produce. Similary today we are taxed at our own labor and pay in terms of currency.
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1.Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. (in feudalism the people could not have private property)
2.A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3.Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4.Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5.Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6.Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7.Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8.Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9.Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.
10.Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production.(12)
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
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Enjoy the american dictatorship!!!
In his first term as President, Wilson persuaded a Democratic Congress to pass major progressive reforms. Historian John Cooper argues that in his first term, Wilson successfully pushed a legislative agenda that few presidents have equaled, and remained unmatched up until the New Deal.[1] This agenda included the Federal Reserve Act, Federal Trade Commission Act, the Clayton Antitrust Act, the Federal Farm Loan Act and an income tax.
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
I HAVE NEVER said there should be a private central bank, imo there should be NO CENTRAL BANK WHATSOEVER...
One more thing, obviously you haven't heard that certain LEFTWINGERS have been wanting to install a GLOBAL LEFTWING dictatorship, or what they call New World Order, with One government, One economy, and pretty much One everything...
Forming a central bank is part of LEFTWINGER doctrines, not part of the Constitutional Representative Republic the United States is supposed to be...
BTW, how are your LEFTWINGER groups in OWS doing?...
edit on 19-12-2011 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
We need a public central bank, where the government issues the currency and the prime rate goes to the treasury which means less taxation, if any at all. Ron Paul's idea is audit the FED and then break it appart into many private central banks each issuing their own currency. That is wrong because it creates confusion and is quite incompatible with the global enviroment.