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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by macman
Parents being billed for the internet access their kids use during computer class. They are in fact using someone else's internet service, in this case the School's so locigally asks is when does the parents start getting billed for it? Throughout my entire friends list there are a rough estimate of over 250 kids and when do they start getting billed so I can warn them of this?
Scam artist?
Can you or anyone possibly explain why an American having a decent job is this evil and Satanical thing because quite frankly it has now come to the point where a stance is now Anti American and deep rooted in hatred for anything this nation does to try and get us to stand on our own two feet again?
It is no longer about stupid and moronic ideals anymore as it is now about how are WE ALL going to move THIS NATION forward and do not give a toss about anything else but that. Opinions were sought after but a vast majority of those stuck on repeat in the matrix known as the paradigm were threatened with embarrassment, death, misfortune if they even dared to speak out against those very people who've been controlling their every move from the getgo.
Lack of wishing for a better nation will kill this nation, this is not some opinion but is a darn fact! When are you going to realize this?
Please do not think I'm trying to take a swipe at you as I am surely not and would not do. I look at you as someone who has lost their way. I am here to tell you if you have that hope is not lost. We all can rise above this entire mess if we really wanted to but to some they'd rather play politics, It is NO LONGER a game!edit on 8-12-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)edit on 8-12-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Algernonsmouse
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by macman
This is so far from irrelevant it is not funny, Denying someone access to the internet because they can't afford a $70 + a month internet connect card. Deny someone access to something that's fast becoming a right?
Someone does have to pay yes, a small tax to guarandamntee that the entire land area of The United States Of America is one massively giant WiFi hotspot is the end result here and care not for what anyone thinks about this.
For every major advancement comes a small price!
You again? Time for a spanking I Guess.
The internet is not a right. Never has been.
The companies providing free WIFI, at the ISP level, are doing so under the guise of Free.
It is not free, nothing ever is. They charge higher fees to the paying customers, get a tax right off from the Govt and then get to parade around as if they are the Champions of the Internet.
But, so long as the Keynesian Economic plans of Obama and Company keep marching, it will always appear as free, so long you ignore your Pay Statement and the amount TAKEN from you, to give to the others.
Who forces you to buy internet access from anyone?
Sounds like you are complaining that companies do what companies want to do and then pass the cost onto you. Isn't that um...the free market?
Originally posted by MrXYZ
Originally posted by IshmaelKipling
All those high school students should have agreed to all get up and leave as soon as he started his bull# speech.
Everything that comes out of Obama's mouth is nothing but bull#. There is no need to pay attention to him. Not enough Americans realize yet that he is just a puppet with no true power.
Not a fan of Obama, but are you saying he was wrong by saying the "free market doesn't work"? Because if you are, you are 100% WRONG
Originally posted by IshmaelKipling
Healthcare, Fire Protection, A national defense force, police, roads etc. etc. some things have no place in the free market.
Originally posted by SirTFiedSkeptic
reply to post by xEphon
Well at least we know who all the brainless, knee-jerk, take anything some random stranger on the internet says as gospel truth MORONS are. Unfortunately, they are 99% of ATS. Deny ignorance, indeed.
Originally posted by seachange
Hint: the free markets are proven to work and that is a fact.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
.I doubt if they would even get 1% of any vote.
Originally posted by bjarneorn
The problem is, people are screaming for communism or socialism ... without understanding why. They have this notion that communism is something good and noble, and scream for it, without having bothered to read the "manifesto" to know what it is about.
Originally posted by Vitchilo
Except America never had free markets. Not in the last 98 years at least.
Remember the robber barons? The war industry that started in WW1?
Free markets died the day the FED was created and the day political contributions from corporations were allowed.
Originally posted by Algernonsmouse
So my posts about how America was founded with and exists on a wonderful socialist infrastructure is off topic now? Accusing me of stealing wifi because I drive on roads is on topic?
Socialism works. Socialism works in America.
Everyone posting in this thread right now is enjoying the benefits of that.
Nothing to do with stealing wifi.
Originally posted by lrak2
I've noticed that the right-wing "free-market" libertarians here take the Soviet Union and China to be examples of Communism.
For Marx, Communism is a stateless, classless society characterized by abundance. The workers control the means of production and goods are produced for social need, not profit. Let me repeat that, the State withers away in a communist society; the State as we know it would not exist. Now I ask you, was this the case in either the Soviet Union or China?
Originally posted by lrak2...
Marx cared more about liberty than any of you "free-market" libertarians.
In depicting the most general phases of the development of the proletariat, we traced the more or less veiled civil war, raging within existing society, up to the point where that war breaks out into open revolution, and where the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie lays the foundation for the sway of the proletariat."
"The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie,to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state, i.e., of the proletariat organized as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible." (pp.31 and 37, seventh German edition, 1906