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The "Why did they come up with the following" Thread

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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 12:59 PM
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What I want to know DIFFERENTLY is why did they come up with EACH SINGLE ONE of the following...

-Purgatory
-Limbo
-Hell
-Heaven
-Paradise

They are each seperate.

Bing or google for definitions.

I also want to know which did they come up with from first to last. Like, which is oldest come to light and which is youngest come to light.


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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 01:14 PM
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purgatory is latin meaning 'way of cleansing'from the 12th century.
limbo is latin for 'on the edge' of hell reserved for saints in waiting and unbaptized infants.
hell comes from old english hellfyre,which the norse referred to their underworld.
heaven is simply a refference to 'the heavens' or the stars where the Gods decended from.
paradise from old french,latin,greek and persian simply means park or enclosure.
12th century roman catholics related it to edan. in old english it meant hunting park,or arena.
NOW YOU KNOW!



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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What most consider hell is actually a garbage dump just outside of Jerusalam... meaning the place of fire and torture does not exist in biblical terms...

Heaven is a word for the afterlife... the place we all return to once we pass...




posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Limbo apparently once existed, but the Catholic Church recently decided to drop it as a doctrine. At that very moment, a vast place full of unbaptised babies went "poof!"

Don't you think that was rather low of the Catholics?
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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon
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What most consider hell is actually a garbage dump just outside of Jerusalam... meaning the place of fire and torture does not exist in biblical terms...

Heaven is a word for the afterlife... the place we all return to once we pass...




Some people might think you are being sarcastic about the dump site so I wanted to clarify for others that what you say is literally true. "Gehenna" is an actual physical location and it's the word that many translate into "hell" in the bible.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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My friend, i rarely joke around when it comes to scriptural matters...

Gehenna


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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:52 PM
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"Hell" generally, not always, means "the grave." "Hell" can also be a verb, meaning "to bury something."



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Lazarus Short
"Hell" generally, not always, means "the grave." "Hell" can also be a verb, meaning "to bury something."


Incorrect... In bibical terms Hell is a place where they tossed dead bodies... Usually there was fire and sulpher within the mass of garbage to destroy the infectious material...

Christ used the term hell because it was the lowest ideal he could comunicate understanding of in the physical realm...

The first will be the last, and the last will be first...

29And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

30But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.




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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:34 PM
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Incorrect? I think we agree perfectly on hell.

Verses 29 & 30? Of what chapter? What book??



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by Lazarus Short
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Incorrect? I think we agree perfectly on hell.

Verses 29 & 30? Of what chapter? What book??



Those verses arn't really about hell... more about the selfish in life comming last... and the selfless first...

Where is hell discribed as "the grave"? Or used as a verb?

It was a specific place...




posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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-Purgatory -- Created by the catholic church to SELL tickets to get out of hell free. (true story, look it up)
-Limbo -- Created for the same reason above ↑ They are the same thing.
-Hell -- God created this for the Devil and his angels. If you end up in hell, you were not invited.
-Heaven -- There are three of them. God needs a home too you know.
-Paradise -- Right beside Hell in the center of the earth. Was a holding ground for unclean Saints in the Old Testament who were waiting to be redeemed. When Jesus went to Hell he brought these guys/gals out with Him. His blood cleaned them whereas animal blood could not.
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posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by Lazarus Short
"Hell" generally, not always, means "the grave." "Hell" can also be a verb, meaning "to bury something."


wow good one. but Jesus did describe something very real and literal.



posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon

Originally posted by Lazarus Short
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Incorrect? I think we agree perfectly on hell.

Verses 29 & 30? Of what chapter? What book??



Those verses arn't really about hell... more about the selfish in life comming last... and the selfless first...

Where is hell discribed as "the grave"? Or used as a verb?

It was a specific place...



OK, I could be wrong, and often am, BUT I believe that "the grave" is the best candidate word for "hell" in the Bible in most places, that is, if you keep an eye on the context.

As a verb, it is a bit obsolete, but look it up in your OED - you do have one, right? "Helling" the tunips, the potatoes, the apples, etc. used to be a common practice. In short, you BURIED the fruits and/or veggies in the ground, in a sort of grave. Get it?!



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 06:22 AM
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Somewhere in the archives of the "Conspiracies in Religion" forum there is a thread with the provocative title "All you Christians are going to HELL", or something like that.
I think there was a long discussion of the meaning of the Hebrew words.

PS I probably mean this one;
Hell thread
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 06:27 AM
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Here is something strange: before the protestant reformation people believed in these things. However, people would have revolted if any of the doctrines were brand new. People did not revolt until after the Church was accused of corruption. What could that possibly mean?
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 06:34 AM
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I think the growth of these beliefs would have been gradual, so they would not have been recognised as brand-new until somebody made a point of looking back.
And I suspect that these beliefs were popular opinion imposing itself on the church, rather than, or at least as much as, the other way round.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by DISRAELI
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I think the growth of these beliefs would have been gradual, so they would not have been recognised as brand-new until somebody made a point of looking back.
And I suspect that these beliefs were popular opinion imposing itself on the church, rather than, or at least as much as, the other way round.


But early church fathers believed it too: www.scripturecatholic.com...



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