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Topic started on 7-12-2011 @ 10:18 AM by truthinfact

In a Silent Coup Pakinstan's President has left the Country, and in the eyes of the west "Resigned."

worldnews.msnbc.msn.com...

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edit on 7-12-2011 by getreadyalready because: Removed caps.

Before you say "he is just ill" please read the entire article. There is evidence that suggest there was a coup.

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reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 10:24 AM by R3N3G4D3

Originally posted by truthinfact
In a Silent Coup Pakinstan's President has left the Country, and in the eyes of the west "Resigned."

worldnews.msnbc.msn.com...

edit on 7-12-2011 by truthinfact because: (no reason given)

Well well well... Pakistan is where all the action is at these days. OBL living there, silent coups, a terror hotspot and our ally in the war on terror. I think Pakistan should be renamed the HOME of terror.

reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 10:25 AM by Rising Against

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You forgot to mention something quite important...

From your source:

ISLAMABAD -- Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari has traveled to Dubai after falling ill, fuelling rumors Wednesday of his possible resignation.

Close associates of the president told the Associated Press he is currently "unwell," but did not provide specifics. His condition did not appear to be life-threatening, they said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

Zardari's office said he was undergoing routine medical tests and a check-up "as planned."

Seems as though there isn't a coup taking place at all, and there's nothing to suggest this, instead he's simply ill and sought out medical attention. Also, it's worth pointing out that it's quite unnecessary to have your title as "PAKISTAN PRESIDENT FLEES", in big capital letters. I mean talk about misleading..

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reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 10:27 AM by truthinfact

^ No, that has been reported in the last few days, to cover up what really has happened. Another Middle Eastern Country has seen a regime change. This one happened right under our noses...

reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 10:35 AM by SLAYER69

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However, we still may be seeing the beginning of major changes in Pakistan.

The story quickly spread on Twitter and it was picked up by Pakistan's ratings-hungry television channels.

Rumors also circulated on Twitter of an army takeover on Tuesday night, but that was quickly recanted by the original poster.

Rumors among the masses may instigate a real Regime change?
If enough people believe something has occurred then they will act accordingly.

Pakistan Twitter Coup of 2011?

reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 10:36 AM by truthinfact

Pakistan is key to everything in the Middle East.... they share a boarder with China. China has everything to gain from this

reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 10:39 AM by Shadowalker

Your title needs adjusted. He is ill. nothing more.

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reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 11:16 AM by truthinfact

=/ it irks me that everyone only read the first paragraph of that article. The parts that support my argument are further down. Thank you very much

reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 11:23 AM by strafgod

All I see is twitter rumors and the msnbc's spin on them.

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reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 11:28 AM by hp1229

As usual, regime change(s) in Pakistan is nothing new.

Their neighbors (india) might know a lot more about it but I'm sure they'll wait it out.

Link

reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 11:42 AM by MischeviousElf

Beware all,

If a true military coup is happening in Pakistan this is extremely serious to say the least, more than Iraq, more than Afghanistan.

India and Pakistan Border is besides the area around Israel the most dangerous in the world for a nuclear Armed Conflict.

China would be unhappy to say the least

Russia to

USA is already operating there and we all know the plans to send in immediate troops to "secure" nuclear weapons in Pakistan in such an event.

India would make a move

The Swat Valley would run with blood,

RUSSIAN< CHINESE< PAKISTANI< FUNDEMENTALISTS
There is as much chance of a major Nuclear conflict or some serious War not like Afghan or Iraq, as if Iran and Syria moved on Israel.

OP make sure of the source, and all make sure of the Spin.

There is some history here and this is why I am like below very keen to keep an eye on this:

Pakistan's ambassador to the United States has resigned over claims that he sought Washington's help against his country's military.

Husain Haqqani is accused of compiling a memo seeking US help to avert a military takeover in Pakistan following the killing of Osama Bin Laden in May.

BBC

I am watching this more closely than anything since 9/11

And I am not fear mongering but talking based on reality this situation an Coup by the Military in Pakistan is one of the worst things that could happen in the world, as the response.

Kind Regards,

Elf

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reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 12:05 PM by SCGrits

Um guys, here's another spin on it from another source: NPR: Trip To Dubai Raises Questions About Pakistani Leader's Future. I'm with Slayer69 and MischeviousElf on this; the Pakistani's are the wild cards worth watching.

reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 12:18 PM by SeekerofTruth101

1. The Paki military whom rule the country in reality, had often depended on US's help, despite its usual duplicity. They know where their bread in that improverished country is buttered, free from obligations that India, China, and Russia would never offer except for US insistance for terrorism to be curtailed.

2. The civilian power had resorted to using religion as a means to stoke up power for themselves, organising and funding civil protest against US, which is indirectly telling US to get lost, so that without US support, Paki military becomes history.

3. With the civilian power running away, the Paki military had probably finally saw the light, that trucking with infidel radicals misuing religion to protect their way of life is a no-brainer and no gainer for the progress of the nation, afterall, at heart, the paki military too love their country.

4. Will the masse uprise? With est 60 billion US funds to help pakistan economically and removing radicals at the same time at no cost to them, do you think they will do so? They too know which side of the bread is buttered and whom offers buttered bread and whom offers only tainted toxic loaves.

reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 12:27 PM by Freeborn

reply to post by MischeviousElf

The Pakistan military have been playing one side off against the other for year's now and there are many different factions within their Armed Forces and Security Services some with distinctly opposing views and beliefs.

If there has been some sort of coup, and we are far from certain of that at present, which side will prove victorious?
Will it provoke internal strife and conflict etc?
How will neighbouring nations react?

There will be quite a few countries watching events closely, none more so than India who will not allow Pakistan's nuclear arsenal to fall into fundamentalist control.

Quite a few of us have long been saying that this could be the powder keg that escalates if ignited - let's hope nothing serious comes of it.

reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 05:30 PM by nightbringr

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
India and Pakistan Border is besides the area around Israel the most dangerous in the world for a nuclear Armed Conflict.

You kidding me? Israel has had the bomb for ages and never once resorted to it, wars notwithstanding. India/Pakistan are a MUCH bigger threat.

Originally posted by MischeviousElf

USA is already operating there and we all know the plans to send in immediate troops to "secure" nuclear weapons in Pakistan in such an event.

In the event of a extremist takeover. While their army certainly has extreme elements, they are not the Taliban.

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
India would make a move

They would wait and see.

Originally posted by MischeviousElf

The Swat Valley would run with blood,

Care to clarify this position?

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
RUSSIAN< CHINESE< PAKISTANI< FUNDEMENTALISTS

And this?

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
Theree is as much chance of a major Nuclear conflict or some serious War not like Afghan or Iraq, as if Iran and Syria moved on Israel.

I can agree with this.

Originally posted by MischeviousElf

And I am not fear mongering but talking based on reality this situation an Coup by the Military in Pakistan is one of the worst things that could happen in the world, as the response.

Dont see that at all. Musharif was the military ruler of Pakistan for quite some time. Also, notably when they detonated their first nuclear device. If you ask me, they almost seemed more stable back then, not less.

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reply posted on 7-12-2011 @ 09:37 PM by Darkmatter86

That's what I would do and anyone with a brain in that region.