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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by paratus
reply to post by starwarsisreal
 


I believe it ALL, subsidize anything and it will snowball.
Look at the stats, you cannot discredit him, he's stating FACT.
Deny ignorance.

Too many sucklers... Not enough working taxpayers to "subsidize" the herd...



I am sick of this tired old argument. Do you say the same thing when bankers get trillions from the herd? Are you angry when the military takes most of the herds money? I am paying for soldiers health care, isnt that socialism?

God damn people are stupid. Deny ignorance indeed, instead of exuding it.
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This thread is not about bankers, or the military...
and yes ingnorance is rampant when your ideoloy governs your every comment




posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 11:21 AM
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Even though that statement is disturbing to hear them say, I almost agree.
I came from nothing (nadda-zilch, my parents left when i was 17) and have a lot now. How you ask? I busted my butt at every job I have ever had, and I tried to excel, because in America that opportunity is there. I have always woke up at around 6-7 in the morning and began trying to make my life better.
I then went to college (twice) have a hefty bill, but I can pay for it with my great education.

I know a hundred people that have nothing because they are lazy, they wake up at noon everyday, party with their friends, or indulge in loafing a little too often. They have never went to college, and they still live at home with their parents. These people also have no care in the world to learn anything-school is a thing for children.

You have the opportunity to be whatever you want, and life is in your hands, so we can not blame anyone (as I did before I learned that if you want to get anywhere you have to work). How many stories have we heard from rags to riches?

There will always be people who want to mooch off the system, their friends, and their parents.

I have been on my own since the age of 17, and even though it took me a while to straighten out and be responsible I knew that day would come, so I worked toward becoming a more intelligent person. You have to know when to let being a kid go, and it is a plague on society, it's even a topic we don't discuss very often-Letting go of being a kid. It took me a long time to realize that everyone is still a kid, we don't really change that much. Since that day I read books that are educational. I study for my tests all night long go to work tired as heck and got A's. I will continue my trend and I understand that it is up to me to work as hard as I can each and everyday to maintain a healthy and wealthy lifestyle.

You know why people are lazy? because it's too easy not to be. It's very easy to "get by" day by day when you don't give it 100%.

Life is too short-get up -go to college, start a business help the economy, and so forth. Stop stealing, and mooching, and teaching your community to be lazy.

Some people actually need their benefits from the government and with all the moochers out there 80 people are being refused benefits because we are running out of money to hand out because JJ doesn't want to learnt o work like everyone else.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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I lived with some lower class people for about a year. I became convinced that they are not the same species as the people I am related to. They are inherently stupid. They act like cavemen wearing bluejeans. Once you see it you will know this guy is correct.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by samlf3rd
Even though that statement is disturbing to hear them say, I almost agree.
I came from nothing (nadda-zilch, my parents left when i was 17) and have a lot now. How you ask? I busted my butt at every job I have ever had, and I tried to excel, because in America that opportunity is there. I have always woke up at around 6-7 in the morning and began trying to make my life better.
I then went to college (twice) have a hefty bill, but I can pay for it with my great education.

I know a hundred people that have nothing because they are lazy, they wake up at noon everyday, party with their friends, or indulge in loafing a little too often. They have never went to college, and they still live at home with their parents. These people also have no care in the world to learn anything-school is a thing for children.

You have the opportunity to be whatever you want, and life is in your hands, so we can not blame anyone (as I did before I learned that if you want to get anywhere you have to work). How many stories have we heard from rags to riches?

There will always be people who want to mooch off the system, their friends, and their parents.

I have been on my own since the age of 17, and even though it took me a while to straighten out and be responsible I knew that day would come, so I worked toward becoming a more intelligent person. You have to know when to let being a kid go, and it is a plague on society, it's even a topic we don't discuss very often-Letting go of being a kid. It took me a long time to realize that everyone is still a kid, we don't really change that much. Since that day I read books that are educational. I study for my tests all night long go to work tired as heck and got A's. I will continue my trend and I understand that it is up to me to work as hard as I can each and everyday to maintain a healthy and wealthy lifestyle.

You know why people are lazy? because it's too easy not to be. It's very easy to "get by" day by day when you don't give it 100%.

Life is too short-get up -go to college, start a business help the economy, and so forth. Stop stealing, and mooching, and teaching your community to be lazy.

Some people actually need their benefits from the government and with all the moochers out there 80 people are being refused benefits because we are running out of money to hand out because JJ doesn't want to learnt o work like everyone else.


Ditto,

I came from nothing, broken home, barely educated, on my own at 14..
Now I have 2 companies, live very comfortably, 3 children that are borberline genius, half million $ home, health, etc.

It is a differnt culture, shamed into welfare mentality, immoral surrounding breeding subhuman families.
If you do not see this you are blind.

Let the legitimate people in need collect welfare, unemployment, benefits, etc... Not these animals.

Let nature run its course and natural selection alleviate us of this.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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It is an in your face fact that the measurement of progress of individuals, delayed or advanced is tied into our economic standing and is judged by this standard. This is a cold hearted black and white reasoning individual whose outlook based on old school providence and mathematics proves that what we are is totally and independently dependent on the person. It struck a nerve in me I must say, but it helps my maturity. I am the reason for my failures and lack of money. I am the reason for personal defects and irrational raging outbursts. But one thing I disagree with is the pairing of future planning and geniousness. What an imbecile! The greatest minds mostly have lived a brief life. I say geniuses have mastered the art of living for today. Our economic system has been looted and plundered by masses of people preparing for tomorrow. You can't possibly tell me all those people fall into the genius category!



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 12:04 PM
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It's relatively easy to make a good living if you set your mind to it and work hard.

That's why intelligent people tend to have an easier life.

You can rail against the injustice of equating standard of living ie wealth and intelligence but there is a relationship.

It's just not that hard to look at your circumstances and figure out how to better yourself. It doesn't take that much intelligence.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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CNC: Let’s see. As I’ve been trying to explain to you, due to democracy the genetic quality of the population has most certainly declined


so true - just learn something about democracy...democracy means nothing and hes right: in most democracys the genetic quality is in decline (learn what genetic means) and thats among other things because we do less for each other, get more arrogant on our standart of living, education isn't really a obligator anymore, corruption is very common and aggression too...

question remains - is it the peopel inside the democracy or is it because of the people in control of the democracy...

make your choice - i go with 50/50
edit on 7-12-2011 by Hessdalen because: mindcontrol
edit on 7-12-2011 by Hessdalen because: mindcontrol



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by Wildbob77
reply to post by MaxJohnson
 


It's relatively easy to make a good living if you set your mind to it and work hard.

That's why intelligent people tend to have an easier life.

You can rail against the injustice of equating standard of living ie wealth and intelligence but there is a relationship.

It's just not that hard to look at your circumstances and figure out how to better yourself. It doesn't take that much intelligence.


Your point taken... with a grain of salt. Intelligence and discipline are what's needed. You know, I wouldn't even go so far as to include intelligence. So don't go patting yourself on the back. Most people are dependent on someone else's business to make a living. Exploitation is ripe if you fit in this category. You can't make much money. Circumstances are the anchor that holds down most people wishing to rise, that's a fact jack. I'm an American so therefore I don't qualify for any benefits promised in the past by corrupt politicians. It all goes to generations of welfare recipients and illegals and their offspring. Wake up call!!!! this undeserving bunch is what perpetuates ignorance and decay of what used to be right in America. If working hard all your life produced wealth than there would be a hell of a lot of wealthy people in the U.S. Remember when loan officers were becoming millionaires? They didn't break a sweat, they didn't get hurt on the job, all they did was produce bad loans for unqualified individuals while lying in the process.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 12:39 PM
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Due to him being an intellectual, I'm sure he will have a nice govt funded bunker to hide out in when the SHTF. Turns out he may not need to hoof it in the wilds like you plebs



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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reply to post by aching_knuckles
 


even worse then paying for the solldiers health care
is the fact that they aren't getting any

the scociapaths need to dehumanize everyone in order to euthenize us
edit on 7-12-2011 by Danbones because: nice av post above



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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Oh get a grip. This is one mans opinion. There are still people that believe Hilter was a good man. There are still practicing Nazi's. There are Muslims about to flog another one from Australia becuase someone got offended in medina.

So someone believes the 'loer-class' is inferior. hell, some in the US still believe that of all blacks.

Are you going to get your precious little knickers in a twist over every little thing that someone else believes?

Go have a coffee and chill out. Give your ulcer a break!



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by Sci-Fi_entist
Meh, some "Know-it-alls" are really not worth paying much attention to.

Home-boy should probably just stick to math.


Home-boy sets up the financial system...to his advantage, to our disadvantage. Why? Because he fails to see us as human beings. He feels superior.

It's pathetic, nonetheless it is a serious issue that needs looking into. Can't have hateful people in charge, it leads to bad things. History is littered with examples.

It's these ego-trippers that set up the financial market for a couple of falls.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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To begin, [t]he natural outcome of the voluntary transactions between… private property owners is decidedly nonegalitarian, hierarchical, and elitist [71]. After all, the “permanently” rich and the “permanently” poor are usually rich or poor for a reason. The rich are characteristically bright and industrious, and the poor typically dull, lazy, or both. [96-97]


Seems to me that the rich are characteristically bright and industrious BECAUSE they are rich and the poor are dull or lazy BECAUSE they are poor.

Switch those around and you'll still get the same result
edit on 12/7/2011 by CastleMadeOfSand because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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I disagree.

If you gave everyone in the US an equal amount of money, within 5 years there would be many who had nothing and a few who had more than their fair share.

You'd have some who invest their wealth and some who would squander it.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by AQuestion
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Someone born with a 90 IQ in poverty does not have the same chance as someone born with a 150 IQ and money. People born with 100 IQs (average) don't have the same chance if they are poor than if they are rich. It determines the education, assistance and freedom from casual concerns like eating and having a place to sleep. Sorry, this is turning into a rant. Peace.


Heck some one born in poverty with a 150 IQ doesn't have the same chance as one born with a 90 IQ and money...
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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by CastleMadeOfSand


To begin, [t]he natural outcome of the voluntary transactions between… private property owners is decidedly nonegalitarian, hierarchical, and elitist [71]. After all, the “permanently” rich and the “permanently” poor are usually rich or poor for a reason. The rich are characteristically bright and industrious, and the poor typically dull, lazy, or both. [96-97]


Seems to me that the rich are characteristically bright and industrious BECAUSE they are rich and the poor are dull or lazy BECAUSE they are poor.

Switch those around and you'll still get the same result
edit on 12/7/2011 by CastleMadeOfSand because: (no reason given)


I wouldn't agree with that. Not with the hateful gentleman or with what you made of his words. Why?

Bright? In which sense? How obvious are their social discomforts in these videos? They don't know how to communicate with other human beings properly. They never learned it. All they learned was math. They grew up isolated which their lack of empathy stems from.

And the systems they set up for the financial markets, that are screwing several generations over as we type, stem from their creators inability to share.

If I were king of the world I would have some researchers on this.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by Wildbob77
reply to post by CastleMadeOfSand
 


I disagree.

If you gave everyone in the US an equal amount of money, within 5 years there would be many who had nothing and a few who had more than their fair share.

You'd have some who invest their wealth and some who would squander it.


That makes no sense. I don't follow. What does giving everyone in the US money have to do with what I said. I know poor people who are brighter than Bill Gates. I know rich people who are duller and lazier than the hobo sitting on the corner.

My comment was about how being poor or rich CAN MAKE you feel. Hence why I said "It seems to me".
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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by InfoKartel

Originally posted by CastleMadeOfSand


To begin, [t]he natural outcome of the voluntary transactions between… private property owners is decidedly nonegalitarian, hierarchical, and elitist [71]. After all, the “permanently” rich and the “permanently” poor are usually rich or poor for a reason. The rich are characteristically bright and industrious, and the poor typically dull, lazy, or both. [96-97]


Seems to me that the rich are characteristically bright and industrious BECAUSE they are rich and the poor are dull or lazy BECAUSE they are poor.

Switch those around and you'll still get the same result
edit on 12/7/2011 by CastleMadeOfSand because: (no reason given)



I wouldn't agree with that. Not with the hateful gentleman or with what you made of his words. Why?
Bright? In which sense? How obvious are their social discomforts in these videos? They don't know how to communicate with other human beings properly. They never learned it. All they learned was math. They grew up isolated which their lack of empathy stems from.

And the systems they set up for the financial markets, that are screwing several generations over as we type, stem from their creators inability to share.

If I were king of the world I would have some researchers on this



Did I post in the wrong thread or something? Once again, not what I'm talking about.
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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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What I'm trying to point out is that given equal resources, outcomes will not be identical.

You assert that you know very bright poor people. I'd say they aren't that bright if they are still poor. It doesn't take that much mental effort to figure out how to make some money.

You also don't seem to understand statistics. Individual outliers will always exist. That doesn't mean that the average outcomes will change.

There are many people born poor who have improved themselves in this country. However, most children of the poor will also be poor.

The same holds true of the affluent. Most children of the affluent will themselves be affluent. You will also have those who have all the advantages yet make nothing of themselves.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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[double post]
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