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Ron Paul looks to be headed for the win WOW

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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 08:39 PM
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I didn't think Ron Paul was really in this race from day one but i have changed my mind after reading this article by Josh Tolley, It talks about how Paul is really the only one that has been atleast in the mix the whole time and about how he now has the chance to make a BIG move. Really worth the read everyone. It changed my mind...




What I thought wasn’t possible even four months ago is now looking more and more like a reality. Ron Paul in not only still in the race, he is on the leader board.



www.joshtolleyshow.com...









edit on 6/12/2011 by Sauron because: internal quote tags to external quote tags




posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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It's not exactly a sealed deal just yet, although RP is making headway.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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I know it isn't but if History of this election shows anything it's that the winner will be the one that is in first place last. Everyone (except santorm) has had the spotlight Paul will be in it when it counts



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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This political season is getting interesting.......it would be great if Ron Paul would get more spotlights on himself and his ideas.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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I agree!
Ron Needs to grab on and not let go.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 09:19 PM
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that's music to my ears, although i still have a bad feeling he is going to be stopped by rigged voting.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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What Im seeing right now, is something like the race between the rabbit and tortise. Most candidates have surged high in the polls, only to plummet very rapidly. Bachmann, Perry, Cain, and now Newt is up there. I wouldnt doubt it if he suddenly plummets like the others. Romney seems pretty stagnant at the moment. I dont see him going up or down currently.

Then there's Paul. Started out low, and has slowly been gaining. From the latests polls in Iowa, he has been in 2nd and 3rd, tied with Romney pretty much. Theres another month left before the first primaries. If Paul keeps gaining, I think he has a very good shot at getting the nomination.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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When all the trash comes out against Newt, I bet Paul will move up in the polls. All these candidates are shooting themselves in the foot. When the smoke clears, I think Ron Paul will be the only one standing.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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That is a likely outcome i think



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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I think RP is playing it smart. He knows that he has a solid base made up of supporters from every walk of life and political spectrum. Instead of spending enormous amounts of money to garner support right off the bat, he has remained middle of the pack and now that he is gaining in the polls.....he is pouring the advertising and ground game on real thick.

He knows what he ois doing at it looks as thought it is working!



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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Except, all of Newt's baggage was public knowledge and already known by the voters before this started. Same is true of Romney.

So you folks are into the politics of personal destruction right along with the Obama bunch. Do you have any idea how sick most of the voters are of this? Apparently not.

I've never heard of this source. I have just looked at the Real Clear Politics averages for national polls of people who actually vote in primaries however.

Paul will loose. The only question that remains is if he will go third party and hand Obama the White House on purpose?



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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The only question that remains is if he will go third party and hand Obama the White House on purpose?

Better that happens than voting Republican and letting it happen anyway. If Newt or Romney is the nominee Obama will be president. No doubt about that.

If RP is the nominee or goes third-party.....we at least have a chance.

ETA: You notice how the RCP polls do not include all the candidates for all polls?
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 10:02 PM
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I think it could play out a couple of ways. Depending on the amount of influence certain groups of people can leverage into the GOP will determine Ron's strategy.

If by chance Ron has an overwhelming draw of support, even TPTB know it would be suicide to ignore him and realize this is an instance that they are going to have to take their chances. The question is, are they bold enough to blatantly ignore Ron, would there be enough support for him that doing something so devious would incite riots in all 50 states. On the flip side, if the numbers are truly not there then ok, fair enough. That is the way it is supposed to work. But in the end, if Ron makes it to the ticket then great, everything should play out the way it is supposed to.

The other way it could play out is a little messier. First, I think we need to look at the current condition of Congress, there is dissension amongst the ranks, not good at all. Democrats not getting along with other democrats and republicans not getting along with other republicans. To top it all off, we have democrats getting along with republicans and republicans getting along with democrats. It is so out of proportion as to what I think what would be normal. I think Ron, either through strategic planning or simply by chance, is inconspicuously holding the whole house together.

If Ron has to go to plan B which I think he would switch party and run as something else. I think the possibility exists that we could see the introduction of the three party system, and Ron would kick it off. I think it is possible that all those pissed off democrats and republicans would leave their current party and join the new one, should he win. If he is forced to split off, I think we will see a political race we have never seen before, the whole dynamics will change as we enter a new territory of American politics.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 10:03 PM
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I find it quite odd so many Democrats are backing a hard core Right Wing Libertarian. Do you suppose there is more than meets the eye behind this?



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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No, I think that RP actually provides America with a "what you see is what you get" candidate.

That is very powerful in a time when almost every candidate is not trustworthy and will do exactly the opposite of what they claimed during the campaign.

Sure, RP is a bit extreme to those who do not understand the premise from which he derives his stances, but many people see it as a clear alternative to what the others have laid before them. People are not entirely stupid, and they know that any republican will maintain the status quo or maybe even advance the agenda a bit further.

Democrats have a lot more in common with RP than with any other candidate, so any gravitation towards his presidency is expected.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 10:29 PM
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I take it you don't support Ron Paul?

Which policies of his do you not agree with if I may ask?



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
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I find it quite odd so many Democrats are backing a hard core Right Wing Libertarian. Do you suppose there is more than meets the eye behind this?


Actually RP provides a viable alternate to many people that traditionally vote democrat, just to keep republicans out. Of all of the candidates the GOP has put up, RP is the only one who has been consistant and professional.

I am not a paulie/paul-bot, or whatever. I have watched from afar and I certainly am not 100% with all of RP's policies, but he seems to be the best thing out there. Honestly, if the powers running this country are so scared of him, they should elect him so that they can assasinate him.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 11:26 PM
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The closer Ron gets to breaking thru this rigged system, the more I worry about his personal safety...
I hope he has employed some experienced personal body guards to protect him... the ruling elite will do something drastic if his message of truth continues to permeate the collective conscience of the populace...



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 11:34 PM
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Except, all of Newt's baggage was public knowledge and already known by the voters before this started. Same is true of Romney.

So you folks are into the politics of personal destruction right along with the Obama bunch. Do you have any idea how sick most of the voters are of this? Apparently not.

I've never heard of this source. I have just looked at the Real Clear Politics averages for national polls of people who actually vote in primaries however.

Paul will loose. The only question that remains is if he will go third party and hand Obama the White House on purpose?


I could say the exact same thing only about Newt. Newt will lose to Obama, all those independents and 'Reagan democrats' would actually vote Republican if Paul runs, they will flock to Paul before they'd vote for any other Republican candidate currently running against Obama. Dems are hoping and praying that Newt gets the nomination.

"Politics of personal destruction" - funny you should think this is being applied to Newt, considering he was a major player in that. The GOP are the dirtiest when it comes to 'politics of personal destruction'.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 11:43 PM
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My opinion on that:

1. The economy is a serious issue and Ron Paul has the clearest message for real solutions.
2. He is one of the very few wanting to bring the troops home (a big dem point)
3. A lot of dems who can be honest about it, realize that while he is socially conservative - he is clearly about minding ones own business and letting people live as they see they best without government interference which many can appreciate.

Its for reasons like this that I believe that out of all of the republican candidates, Ron Paul has the best chance of drawing the support of the middle of the road crowd and even some of the democrats who are itching for change in the status quo.



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