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Why Christians eat pork ?

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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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To be honest I thought the answer was

- When these ancient texts were written, in the part of the world they were written, pigs were scavengers eating filth and refuse and carcasses. Pigs carry roundworms and the yersinia enterocolitica bacteria which live inside raw pork.

With better hygiene, better farming, and better cooking these things are less of a threat these days but in ancient times they could easily have been the cause of severe illness/death from eating pork. These were times before modern medicine when just about everything could kill you.

Hence the correlation to unclean and the prohibition on eating it. It probably made sense at the time.




posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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So why you eat eggs? Look where they come out of.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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God told Paul to partake of them and this shows us that now Christians are allowed to eat whatever they desire to eat.


How very convenient, in spite of the fact that the godman "never" repealed any of "His own" laws, some 70 or so years after the fact a man who never met jesus knew little about him and was not attendant at the crucifiction had a dream that jesus changed his mind and said it was now ok to eat what the hell you like !!

How very convenient



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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Not even going to give it much thought, for you are obviously baiting....perhaps you would prefer some potato chips and by your answer in the game being played, then we all know what you believe by what you are choosing to eat??????
For the chips make pork and ham and whatever, and now horse is legally slaughtered. Does is occur to you that soon, or already, we are working our way back to you, babe....
Dint get me wrong. I hate, abhor it....but then we have anorexia to represent that. Just can't win, can you. So sad, what have we gambled away at the casino?
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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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In the present context, it is no longer about black vs. White, or in fact any color whatsoever. It is not about race, where you were born, but all the while they were telling you good and evil were relative, that was really what it was about, while all these other things were thrown in your path. Yes, those are relative, because whomever controls it all linked opposites that dont and never did belong together to get everyone to betray themselves, so there was no legitimate argument about what happened next.
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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:03 PM
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I think the OP has asked a good question. It actually exposes a much bigger problem regarding logic in Christianity. How is it possible that an omnipotent, omniscient God can negate his own laws by sending himself to earth in human form? Looks to me like somebody wrote a half baked story and didn't really think it through all the way ...



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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Read the book in it's entirety. Jesus came to fulfill the laws. He knew we couldn't follow the law because of our humility. It is through Jesus' sacrifice that the law no longer holds us in bondage.


Well here we go again, more xtian squirming, I read the bible se what the yahwhe jesus god has to say on "his own laws" which is

It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." Luke 16:17


But oh nooo, you want me to read another book by another man to explain the first book allegedly inspired by a god.


By the way I've heard that particular argument time and again my friend and it really is embarrassingly childish in logic.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by AllIsOne
I think the OP has asked a good question. It actually exposes a much bigger problem regarding logic in Christianity. How is it possible that an omnipotent, omniscient God can negate his own laws by sending himself to earth in human form? Looks to me like somebody wrote a half baked story and didn't really think it through all the way ...




posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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Exodus 16:14-20

When the dew was gone, thin flakes like frost on the ground appeared on the desert floor. When the Israelites saw it, they said to each other, “What is it?” For they did not know what it was.

Moses said to them, “It is the bread the LORD has given you to eat. This is what the LORD has commanded: ‘Everyone is to gather as much as they need. Take an omer for each person you have in your tent.’”

The Israelites did as they were told; some gathered much, some little. And when they measured it by the omer, the one who gathered much did not have too much, and the one who gathered little did not have too little. Everyone had gathered just as much as they needed.

Then Moses said to them, “No one is to keep any of it until morning.”

However, some of them paid no attention to Moses; they kept part of it until morning, but it was full of maggots and began to smell. So Moses was angry with them.


Gee I wonder what this was. You'd have to research the history of the world and shamans.

First for the rest to make sense, perhaps, this link explains the red hair frequent in the middle east and Israel, and all the red haired, and blond haired, mummies found throughout the world including in Egypt pharoahs, some with pics. This has a whole bunch of links:

www.burlingtonnews.net...

Then, on to the real mystery in all their paintings and in the bible.


Michael Tsarion - The Irish Origins of Civilization - 1/6

The story of adam and eve, the abuse of women and their erecting penis's all over the place and pyramids, and putting adrogynous gowns on the male priests while conducting murder and war world wide and suppressing the true meaning of the duality, the true school, the true way back home.

The duality or philosopher's stone is not nature's substances by the way, though many in their ranks believe it is.

Its truly wedding the highest principals of mind with heart, or the best most loving and good attributes of the most kind and benevolent Father with Mother. They pyramid and the Challis/Sophia, the inverted pyramid.

The tree of life was Sophia, the Mother. And Mother's Love is intrinsic equality where no one is left out or enslaves but work together to ensure all have roofs over their heads and full stomachs and beauty/joy/happiness. Equality/Unity/Compassion/Unconditonal Love for all even her misbehaving kids. Forgiveness.

This must be wedded to the highest gifts of a Father: Invention/Creativity/Freedom and Teaching instructing the chidren.

Well they stopped the way back home, declared their war and inequality male energy, was all there was, no need for women, penis's erected everywhere in obelisks and pyramids, adrogyny and homosexual behavior. Women became unclean and covered in death shrouds in the middle east.

Yeshua still represnts both Heart and Mind, Spirit, and the way back home. But you have weed out all the rest.

It infuriates me to have these evil doers having harmed so many people, and deprived them of equality and peace, and ran over them with spiked boots, for ages in the name of fairy tales. While keeping the sacred knowledge and truth to themselves.

Matthew 23:13

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.



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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Turkenstein

Originally posted by Sahabi
Christians eat pork because they are not Christians at all. They are in fact Paulians!!!

These Paulians allow the words, ideas, and 'visions' of Saul of Tarsus (Apostle Paul) to supercede the words of Lord God and Jesus Christ.


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What are you talking about. You have to elaborate a whole lot more after making a statement like that. Never have even heard of that.


If you pay close attention to the Old Testament and the words of Jesus in Matthew, Mark, and John... you will see that Paul's writings are in sharp contradiction to Lord God and Jesus Christ. Luke was a disciple of Paul, therefore, in my opinion, The Gospel of Luke and all of Paul's writings should be excluded from the Bible. I give far more credibility to the Gnostic, Apocrypha, and even the Pseudepigrapha texts over anything Paul ever said.

Today's Christians follow the words of Paul and Luke instead of God or Jesus. This is what I mean by 'Paulians,' i.e., followers of Paul.

If Jesus was not to return until all work has been finished, why did Jesus appear to Paul? If Jesus completed his ministry, why did he tell Paul to create a new and different ministry? Was Paul really so special that Jesus would go back on his Word to empower an oppressor of Christians? We can say that either Jesus or Paul is the liar. I choose the latter.

There are many publications, articles, and blogs to be found online regarding this. You'll figure it out if you REALLY want to go down that road.

Peace unto you.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:12 PM
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Consider this...in these days of technology we cannot hope to control what cometh out of us, if we surely have been put to sleep and conned about what us truly in us. We were both warned that Satan was full of trickery, that what was true would not appear to be so, that we would be blinded, that we would seek relief, and not be blamed for it in our circumstances.....

Another thread today had a poster who said we would not be put in a no win situation and have our karma dumped....if this is not true, then what most worship as God today, is in fact, a demon. Sorry. This is my take on the path we are presented with while presenting we have a choice...our choices are poison.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by ChristianJihad
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God told Paul to partake of them and this shows us that now Christians are allowed to eat whatever they desire to eat.


How very convenient, in spite of the fact that the godman "never" repealed any of "His own" laws, some 70 or so years after the fact a man who never met jesus knew little about him and was not attendant at the crucifiction had a dream that jesus changed his mind and said it was now ok to eat what the hell you like !!

How very convenient





Nicely said!

"Jesus came with the covenant for the circumcised but I come with a different covenant for the uncircumcised."
Can someone please shut Paul up?

Saul of Tarsus (Paul) was an enemy, oppressor, and adversary to Christianity. He couldn't stop the spread of Christianity, so instead of fighting it he changed his name to Paul and infiltrated Christianity in order to corrupt and undermine the message of Jesus.

It is sooo clear and obvious to any intelligent person that Paul is an infiltrator and his writings are a corruption to the ministry of Jesus Christ.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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Research where the story of Santa and the reindeer came from, it was not Holland, but Siberia. And why did they give Rudolf a red shiny nose? Its related to manna and moses.

Search. Seek!!!! Learn.
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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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so what does it mean Jesuse came to fullfill the law? I thought he came to fullfill a prophecy.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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You Sir are a ignorant ................................

Christians..... a very large tree with many branches....



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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I don't know if someone has already posted this, but in the New Testament (Book of Acts), Peter has a vision while sitting on a roof where God lays down a sheet by the four corners (representing the four corners of the world). Upon this sheet was all of the animals of the field, and God commands Peter to rise and kill and eat. Peter objects and says that he cannot eat that which is unclean, and God rebukes him saying, "Call nothing that I have made unclean." This is oft interpreted as an abolishen of previous laws involving diet.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Because religion as a whole is a facade to alleviate guilt from the immoral.

Plain and simple. No different than the crazies who are "born-again Christians" after spending decades as drug addicts. Or the Men who spend all week beating their wife and kids after work, only to spend a morning or evening in Sunday mass, repenting their behavior.

Pork just happens to taste really damn good, so good in fact, that the so called "sin" of eating it is largely overlooked. Even if it was popular among Christians to abstain from Pork, they'd still eat it, and repent it on the weekend.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by BBobb
I don't know if someone has already posted this, but in the New Testament (Book of Acts), Peter has a vision while sitting on a roof where God lays down a sheet by the four corners (representing the four corners of the world). Upon this sheet was all of the animals of the field, and God commands Peter to rise and kill and eat. Peter objects and says that he cannot eat that which is unclean, and God rebukes him saying, "Call nothing that I have made unclean." This is oft interpreted as an abolishen of previous laws involving diet.


How can a law by an omniscient God be changed? BBobb, I'd love to get a logical explanation.



Leveticus chapter 11

7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:30 PM
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Jesus stated; ""Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." [Matthew 5:17]

Who said males must be circumcised? Lord God did, and Jesus did by his actions.
Who said males don't have to be circumsiced? Paul did.

Who said pork is unclean? Lord God did, and Jesus did by his actions.
Who said there is no such thing as unclean food? Paul and Luke did.

Who said to observe Saturday as the Sabbath? Lord God did, and Jesus did by his actions.
Who abolished the Sabbath? Paul and Luke did.
Who changed the Sabbath to SUN-day? The Sun worshipping Emperor Constantine did.


I am not ignorant, sorry that your conclusions about me are incorrect. Must we resort to personal attacks? I am not Lord God, Jesus, Paul, or the Bible.... THAT is what we're discussing.

Christianity or Paulianity... there is a HUGE difference.


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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by Malcher
So why you eat eggs? Look where they come out of.


Look where you came out of ...




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