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8 yr. old tells Bachmann: " My moms gay but she doesnt need fixing"- Child Abuse?

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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 07:25 AM
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Love your profile pic btw. But child abuse- really? because an 8 year old is smarter than a presidential candidate it's child abuse because ignorants don't see that kids can think for themselves and see that being gay is just fine. Maybe this kid was trying to help his mom his mom probably gets a lot of # from the ignorants about raising kids because that's apparently wrong to.




posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by AllUrChips
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My sentiments exactly. This is child abuse. I guarantee you this boy will turn out gay because of this mothers idiotic parenting style


You can't guarantee that - and besides, homosexuality is genetic, not a learned behaviour.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 07:28 AM
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O yeah right on this kid will be gay now because his parents are- again really? You think all gay people now came from gay parents? hell no their parents were largely straight kids turned out gay, according to your logic tis is impossible because the kids have to turn out just like their parents. Ignorant Chips



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 07:38 AM
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This is the dumbest statement I have seen on ATS so far. If this were true every gay person I know would be straight. And as far as this being child abuse, its no more abuse than the vitriol that the "good Christians" make their kids spew.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 07:44 AM
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The sheer amount of ignorance on this thread is staggering.

I thought the Nibiru people were bad.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 07:44 AM
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Aside from the using of child for their own agenda....what shocks me is that..

......people still think gay is a lifestyle choice? wow.. people are programmed to like certain gender from birth, unless some chemical from the environment affects their brain, no, its not a lifestyle choice. i can't one day wake up and be like, "hmmm, i think i will like men today."

Having a gay parents does not make someone gay or vice versa.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 07:44 AM
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So based on the idea that children will turn out to be gay if raised by gay parents, then we can assume the following.

Children raised by heterosexual parents will turn out to be heterosexual. (oops not always)

Children raised by racist parents will turn out to be racist. (oops not always)

Children raised by Christian parents will turn out to be Christian. (oops not always)

Very flawed logic across the entire thread. Children can sense love, energy and intention. Even a child that has been shown nothing but hate and intolerance knows love, instinctively. Better to have two loving homosexual parents than any other combination where love, tolerance, honesty and good intent are not part of the equation.

Namaste



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by AllUrChips
I personally think this is child abuse. Using your kid like that with a developing mind, to try and push your own agenda.


If that is child abuse, then every parent from the dawn of time is guilty of it. Every parent or primary care giver--regardless of sexual preference or other characteristics--is the primary factor in determining what a child's views will be. You don't even have to directly coach a child to think as you do; they learn by observation and example.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:00 AM
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You can't determine abuse like that. What you can determine is a bad parenting style. Pushing gay agenda's on children is wrong, if Gay's believe it's a natural thing to be gay, let it happen naturally and stop pushing the agenda on the youngens.

What happens if the world is entirely gay? No more pro-creation? We would die off in 200 years. Ridiculous. Some people have zero common sense and you can quote me on this. I don't hate gay people, I have gay friends and think "to each their own", however, I know it does not bode well for human evolution. If anything it degenerates it.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by luciddream
Aside from the using of child for their own agenda....what shocks me is that..

......people still think gay is a lifestyle choice? wow.. people are programmed to like certain gender from birth, unless some chemical from the environment affects their brain, no, its not a lifestyle choice. i can't one day wake up and be like, "hmmm, i think i will like men today."

Having a gay parents does not make someone gay or vice versa.


Where is the proof it is not a choice? I see studies pointing to the possibility but not one shred of evidence of a gay gene or what have you. Gay is wrong no matter how you slice it and it's a choice anyone can make and many do conciously. Then fall back on the excuse it's "in their genes".

So what, some killers say the same. It's in their genes to kill, shall we let them roam the earth too?
People who are cannibals can say its in their genes too, shall we accept that?

Gay sex is known to cause disease unless protection is used, with that being said, how is being gay at all natural? I can have sex with a woman without protection and she will get pregnant, but no disease comes from nowhere.

You want to be gay that's fine, but don't be deluded into thinking "you didn't have a choice". You did, but your conditioning is weak and you do whatever your impulses tell you and a sense of rebellion may drive you. Deep down inside though, you know it's wrong.

Flame away.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:09 AM
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Using your kid like that with a developing mind, to try and push your own agenda.


Children usually do not need a lot of prompting for good or ill to learn from their parents. Parents push their own "agenda" all the time. Sports teams, religious beliefs, food choices, family traditions, the list goes on and on. However this child has probably asked his "Moms" all kinds of questions and if his parents have answered honestly he knows that there are people out there who for their own misguided reasons want to "fix" his Moms.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by luciddream
Aside from the using of child for their own agenda....what shocks me is that..

......people still think gay is a lifestyle choice? wow.. people are programmed to like certain gender from birth, unless some chemical from the environment affects their brain, no, its not a lifestyle choice. i can't one day wake up and be like, "hmmm, i think i will like men today."

Having a gay parents does not make someone gay or vice versa.


For people to believe that being gay is NOT a choice they have to consider this:
1. The bible is wrong. (not possible for them)
2. God made a mistake. (Nope..not possible)
3. God made them that way. (why would he do such a vile thing?)

I really believe that accepting gay people (for some people) is so difficult because it makes them question their beliefs and they just don't want that shell cracked, so they stand firm with their beliefs. Must be hard, esp. if someone they care about turns out to be gay. I think that is where "Love the sinner, hate the sin" came from. It gives them an "out" Although I do think it is a weak "out".



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
The gay bashing is getting quite clever around here.


Indeed it has, hasn't it? Personally, I think I've worked something out. Seems that folks tend to define 'normal' by citing their own condition. Must be...because I read here about folks whose 'normalcy' includes bisexualism and a whole lotta grey area. Not that there's anything wrong with that...


But I don't see it, because it's pretty black and white to me...which constitutes my interpretation of my own sexuality. Be Gay...don't scare the horses because it's ill mannered, don't use your kids as props...same as straights.

But to those whose 'normalcy' includes the idea of a choice to be gay...well that tells me that they could actually go either way, but have made a conscious decision. To them, I say kudos...you've chosen a path!

But don't make the mistake that of thinking that everybody else is essentially bisexual and makes a 'choice', ok? Some of us are just hard wired the way we are.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by SMTRu44

Children raised by heterosexual parents will turn out to be heterosexual. (oops not always)

Children raised by racist parents will turn out to be racist. (oops not always)

Children raised by Christian parents will turn out to be Christian. (oops not always)



Children raised by homosexuals parents will turn out to be homsexual. (oops not always)?
edit on 7-12-2011 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:28 AM
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Ill be honest I have a 7 yr old and and would never even tell them what gay is


Must be nice to have parents that willfully keep you in the dark.

PS. Do unto others as they shall do unto you.

And judge not lest ye be judged?

I thought I'd drop those two in since you like to be biblical about it...and not just that, but acting as if one person is less than another in Gods eyes...you should read about the punishment for that part ;-)

PPS.

What do you think your 7 year old will grow up to be? Remember this post in like 20 years okay? :-)



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by EspyderMan

Originally posted by luciddream
Aside from the using of child for their own agenda....what shocks me is that..

......people still think gay is a lifestyle choice? wow.. people are programmed to like certain gender from birth, unless some chemical from the environment affects their brain, no, its not a lifestyle choice. i can't one day wake up and be like, "hmmm, i think i will like men today."

Having a gay parents does not make someone gay or vice versa.


Where is the proof it is not a choice? I see studies pointing to the possibility but not one shred of evidence of a gay gene or what have you. Gay is wrong no matter how you slice it and it's a choice anyone can make and many do conciously. Then fall back on the excuse it's "in their genes".

So what, some killers say the same. It's in their genes to kill, shall we let them roam the earth too?
People who are cannibals can say its in their genes too, shall we accept that?

Gay sex is known to cause disease unless protection is used, with that being said, how is being gay at all natural? I can have sex with a woman without protection and she will get pregnant, but no disease comes from nowhere.

You want to be gay that's fine, but don't be deluded into thinking "you didn't have a choice". You did, but your conditioning is weak and you do whatever your impulses tell you and a sense of rebellion may drive you. Deep down inside though, you know it's wrong.

Flame away.

The proof???? I will tell you where the proof is...I DID NOT WANT to be gay when I realized that I was. I tried to live a straight life, but I could not change my feelings. I could not change how I felt. Could you make a choice to be gay if that was considered normal??

You are comparing me to a killer??? Oh, give me a break. I cannot even address this, it is so ridiculous. I may lose my breakfast.

Are you telling me that you can't catch an STD from straight sex?

I did not have a choice. Period! If I did, I would have chosen to be straight. I tried, believe me, I tried....

You know, usually, I keep my mouth shut when people spout this crap, but you made me furious. You have NO idea what you are talking about. None, zero, zip.


edit on 7-12-2011 by zippy1958 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by AllUrChips
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So I will bet a weeks pay that this child grows up to be gay, and not on his own accord. I think this is not about him loving his moms, what does the woman have to gain by doing this?


First of all, I don't want your $50. Second, it is idiotic to think that a child will turn out to be gay based on this alone.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:37 AM
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What I saw in that video is a mom who brings her kid up to Michelle Bachmann to deliver a message. Look how sweet Michelle was in approaching him. Just like a Montessori teacher does, get on the child's level and speak kindly.

The kid must have been coached. Mom and her friend probably sit around the kitchen in front of him talking about Michelle and how mean she is and the kid now wants to defend Mom.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by EspyderMan

Originally posted by luciddream
Aside from the using of child for their own agenda....what shocks me is that..

......people still think gay is a lifestyle choice? wow.. people are programmed to like certain gender from birth, unless some chemical from the environment affects their brain, no, its not a lifestyle choice. i can't one day wake up and be like, "hmmm, i think i will like men today."

Having a gay parents does not make someone gay or vice versa.


Where is the proof it is not a choice? I see studies pointing to the possibility but not one shred of evidence of a gay gene or what have you. Gay is wrong no matter how you slice it and it's a choice anyone can make and many do conciously. Then fall back on the excuse it's "in their genes".

So what, some killers say the same. It's in their genes to kill, shall we let them roam the earth too?
People who are cannibals can say its in their genes too, shall we accept that?

Gay sex is known to cause disease unless protection is used, with that being said, how is being gay at all natural? I can have sex with a woman without protection and she will get pregnant, but no disease comes from nowhere.

You want to be gay that's fine, but don't be deluded into thinking "you didn't have a choice". You did, but your conditioning is weak and you do whatever your impulses tell you and a sense of rebellion may drive you. Deep down inside though, you know it's wrong.

Flame away.



Haha..

Proof? I'm am a man, ever since i was young i liked girls...and even now... and your telling me i can one day wake up and force myself to like men? that wont work I'm pretty sure everyone in the whole world feels like that, you are attracted to a gender from an early age, and the opposite gender will not work even if you force yourself, its not a choice..

Only gay sex gives you STD?, maybe you should do some research.

Serial killers have a different mentality, they look things in different way, its possible they become like this because they may have a weak gene which causes them to react to things differently from the "normal" people, like anger, expression of feeling etc....



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by AllUrChips

Originally posted by electricalpup
What do you suggest?

Would you suggest tar and feather? How about this, stockade? I know, how about ripping this child from his mother and place in foster care where his developing mind can be further damaged or possibly child raped because you think his developing mind can be attuned to your brainwaves.

You have not a clue, have you placed yourself in this child's shoes? Here is a possibility,maybe this child has experienced enough hate directed at his mother where she had to explain to this beautiful son why people are treating her like her life has no value or she is evil, just maybe he questioned why.

I thank the universe, creator or God himself, this child sees the love in his mother, and he ask from his developing heart and not with a barbaric mind.



What do I suggest? Ok ill go there. I think unfortunately its too late for this generation, but being gay is more of a statement than anything. Its a lifestyle, and sometimes a very dirty one at that(when illegal drugs become involved). I think this "oh its ok to be gay and be yourself" and all this pro gay stuff is disgusting imho. WHY? Because, I love women but I do not go around and announce it and tell my family all about it. I dont "act" a certain way (being overly feminin) or in my case over masculine, just to get a rise out of people. Now, I already said I dont have a problem if people are gay, lets just be adult about it unlike this moronic mother who chose not to.


Just like not all gays act in the way you described, not all heterosexual males refrain from announcing their love for the fairer gender or acting "overly masculine".

In my humble opinion, you do have a problem with people being gay. You work around it in your mind by saying things like "I don't have a problem with them being gay, it just disgusts me an I wish they would pass a law against it already." But again, that's just my opinion. On you.



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