Stereotyping on ATS - Enough Already!

Stereotyping. Is it intelligent or ignorant?? Think about it, we are here on ats because we ARE intelligent people. We are the kind of people that think outside of the conventional box. We don't just accept what our society and tptb tell us. We look beyond that, examine the real evidence, and decide for ourselves if there is something going on besides the so called real story. So why then is there so much stereotyping on ats? Honestly, I don't get it. Whatever happened to judging people as individuals, based on their words and actions, and not based on the actions or words of the collective group that they belong to? Is it fair to say that all muslims are terrorists because some of the radical ones have committed terrorist acts? Of course not! -or to say that all christians are ignorant and annoying because you had an encounter with a rude bible thumper, or because hundreds of years ago the Roman Catholic Church conquered other nations in the name of christianity? No! -or how about saying that all OWSers are hippies that need to get a job and take a shower because one of them once took a dump on a cop car or behaved in a bad manner during a protest? No! Of course that's not fair!

We've known this for years. We all know that it's not fair to hate all white people because years ago there were ruthless white Americans that enslaved the black race, or because there are egocentric corporate typesthat care about no one else but themselves and their fellow white associates. - or do we lump all black people in a group because one of them committed a crime and went to prison, or are all jews bad because some of them are wealthy, powerful and perhaps care only for themselves?? -or what about homosexuals based on their sexual preference? Is that right? No! -or just because one woman is a gold digger or one man is a deadbeat does that suddenly make them all that way? If you had a bad experience with one man or woman does that then make it right to suddenly say that all of them are the same way? Of course not! This stuff is pretty elementary, which is why I can't believe it is even happening here on ats.

This is stuff we learned in grade school, and if we didn't then we should have. A person should judge other people based on their own individuality, i.e. their own actions, behavior and words. That means, people should not be judged and stereotyped based on their race, religion, gender, age, sexual preference, political views, or anything else that lumps them in a group and is not based on their individuality as a person. The truth is that none of us like to be stereotyped. Then, why do we do it to other people? Come on ats, we are better than that! The people that I have met here on ats are some of the most brilliant thinkers of our time, and I really believe that. I think that if you are on ats, then you are a true thinker that is actually awake unlike so many of the other occupants of our world. Therefore, I'm going to resolve to do my best to not stereotype anyone, and to communicate with my fellow atsers in a way that may take issue with what they are stating in their post, but doesn't judge them on the collective group that they fit into or come from. I'm issuing a challenge.......can you do the same???

Once people realize making fun of someone else, for whatever reason, is really just making fun of them self, then they will stop stereotyping. I think some of these members on ATS should watch this video.

A person should...

people should...

This advice never works on anyone. What works for one may not for another. Some people have to make those mistakes or they'll never really learn why it's wrong or not in their best interests.

You can tell a teenager not to do X, Y, & Z a million times, but they never really learn until they learn it the hard way. Many people just have to learn things the hard way. Best to leave them be and let their personal journeys take them down those paths.

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Hey thanks for posting the video. I plan on watching it when I get home. By the way, I really like your user I'd!

Originally posted by britelite1971
Think about it, we are here on ats because we ARE intelligent people.

Isn't that steriotyping on your part?

I think all the dumb people here on ATS should be offended by your careless steriotyping of the members here.

I know I am.

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And exactly how does one learn that they are being rude? How do you learn that the hard way online? A virtual slap in the face? By the way, this was not advice. Its a rant!

I see the same with OWSers. One says to jump, and the rest jump. I guess if the majority says that capitalism is bad, than it must be bad. There are very few leaders, and the rest followers. What happened to individual thought? It’s like people can’t think on their own unless someone walks them by hand into the so called "right direction".. A good example is how Americans vote. Fox news is a good example of that. If Bill OReilly says Perry is the best for the presidency, than golly-gee-wiz, he must be the best for the presidency. I have always given my own opinion on what I feel about a particular subject. If people don’t like it, than oh well. I love ATS. Best place for people have individual thought. There will always one or two in the crowd, but most are free thinkers.....

Originally posted by britelite1971
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And exactly how does one learn that they are being rude? How do you learn that the hard way online? A virtual slap in the face? By the way, this was not advice. Its a rant!

edit on 6-12-2011 by britelite1971 because: typo

They can't learn it the hard way online, but how they talk online, and on XBOX live, text messages, Twitter, FB, etc., eventually spills over into their personal lives and they get their slaps then.

Originally posted by FortAnthem

Originally posted by britelite1971
Think about it, we are here on ats because we ARE intelligent people.

Isn't that steriotyping on your part?

I think all the dumb people here on ATS should be offended by your careless steriotyping of the members here.

I know I am.

My apologies! Love your sense of humor!

Stereotyping is intelligent, it is using past behavior to predict future behavior

Originally posted by PrimalRed
Stereotyping is intelligent, it is using past behavior to predict future behavior

Stereotyping is unintelligent because it is the assumption that humans are predictable when the reality is we are highly unpredictable. It is also unintelligent since it groups people together regardless of whether or not those people act as a group or even see themselves as a group.

Stereotyping also puts one at a disadvantage as it assumes that the behavior of a group will always be the same disregarding that group's ability to change and react.

Basically if you stereotyping is the opposite of an informed opinion.

Originally posted by FEDec

Originally posted by PrimalRed
Stereotyping is intelligent, it is using past behavior to predict future behavior

Stereotyping is unintelligent because it is the assumption that humans are predictable when the reality is we are highly unpredictable. It is also unintelligent since it groups people together regardless of whether or not those people act as a group or even see themselves as a group.

Stereotyping also puts one at a disadvantage as it assumes that the behavior of a group will always be the same disregarding that group's ability to change and react.

Basically if you stereotyping is the opposite of an informed opinion.

oh then i suppose you would have me believe that these guys are racist

oh then i suppose you would have me believe that these guys are racist

As a group whose members are all consenting adults that weren't required by law or born into a bunch of stupid white sheets and whose stated purpose is to spread racial hatred.... Hmmm yeah I guess I would.

Originally posted by FEDec

oh then i suppose you would have me believe that these guys are racist

As a group whose members are all consenting adults that weren't required by law or born into a bunch of stupid white sheets and whose stated purpose is to spread racial hatred.... Hmmm yeah I guess I would.

See, now YOU are stereotyping but that is different right?

See, now YOU are stereotyping but that is different right?

Clearly you don't understand the word stereotype. Since members of the KKK are consenting willing adults who self apply the label of racist I cannot possibly stereotype them as such. Do you get it? They call themselves racists so I am merely repeating what they have labeled themselves. Stereotyping is when a person or group applies a label to another group when said label has not been self applied.

Why do I even try? I'm talking to a slack jawed drop-out who uses pictures of inbred simpletons in white dresses to take the moral high-ground.

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Since members of the KKK are consenting willing adults who self apply the label of racist I cannot possibly stereotype them as such.

A stereotype is a popular belief about specific social groups or types of individuals. The concepts of "stereotype" and "prejudice" are often confused with many other different meanings. Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of groups based on some prior assumptions.

That is exactly what you are doing with the KKK, you assume that they are all racist, how many KKK members have you met?

Do you get it? They call themselves racists so I am merely repeating what they have labeled themselves.

No they don't.

Do We Hate Non-whites?



It is a common misconception that we are a so called "hate" group, no member of the Ku Klux Klan, LLC. mindlessly hates other races. We are not concerned with race but are concerned with the AGENDA of certain groups and organizations that we feel are anti-America, anti-Christian and anti-Capitolist. What we do feel is that we are certainly no worse than anyone else, that our people are entitled to be proud of their history, heritage and culture as much as any other. We work against the agenda of anti-American goups and oganizations that seek the destruction of our Nation regardless of the race creed or color of their membership. These groups include but are NOT limited to:

NEA, (National Education Assn)

La Rasa, A Marxist organization

NAMBLA, (North American Man Boy Love Assn)

NAACP, National Assn. For the Advancement of Colored People

Stereotyping is when a person or group applies a label to another group when said label has not been self applied.

Well just saying that the label is self applied does not make it so.

Originally posted by PrimalRed
reply to post by FEDec

 

Since members of the KKK are consenting willing adults who self apply the label of racist I cannot possibly stereotype them as such.

A stereotype is a popular belief about specific social groups or types of individuals. The concepts of "stereotype" and "prejudice" are often confused with many other different meanings. Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of groups based on some prior assumptions.

That is exactly what you are doing with the KKK, you assume that they are all racist, how many KKK members have you met?

Do you get it? They call themselves racists so I am merely repeating what they have labeled themselves.

No they don't.

Do We Hate Non-whites?



It is a common misconception that we are a so called "hate" group, no member of the Ku Klux Klan, LLC. mindlessly hates other races. We are not concerned with race but are concerned with the AGENDA of certain groups and organizations that we feel are anti-America, anti-Christian and anti-Capitolist. What we do feel is that we are certainly no worse than anyone else, that our people are entitled to be proud of their history, heritage and culture as much as any other. We work against the agenda of anti-American goups and oganizations that seek the destruction of our Nation regardless of the race creed or color of their membership. These groups include but are NOT limited to:

NEA, (National Education Assn)

La Rasa, A Marxist organization

NAMBLA, (North American Man Boy Love Assn)

NAACP, National Assn. For the Advancement of Colored People

Stereotyping is when a person or group applies a label to another group when said label has not been self applied.

Well just saying that the label is self applied does not make it so.

Oh yeah the old we don't hate other races we just love our own but we also dont want to live anywhere near any darkies bullcrap. Yeah whatever dude lets see what they say when they aren't talking through PR agents.

Have you ever met a KKK member? If you had, besides finding out they are quite attracted to pigs and their own sisters you would know that they are attempting to paint themselves as heroes. Why? Because even to people who agree with them they are an anachronism with a dwindling membership of old coots and insane meth heads.

No new blood coming in from a generation who has no time for their fantasy nonsense. If you want to pull that particular brand of wool over someones eyes make sure that someone isn't familiar with the recruitment methods of racialist groups.

There you go, continuing to stereotype those you dislike in an effort to say the stereotyping people is wrong and unintelligent.

Originally posted by PrimalRed
There you go, continuing to stereotype those you dislike in an effort to say the stereotyping people is wrong and unintelligent.

Are you saying the KKK aren't a bunch of slack jawed, meth smoking, pig loving, drop-out, dress wearing nancy boys? Because previous behavior would say otherwise and I've finally seen the light of your argument and decided that stereotyping is intelligent.

Using stereotyping to predict future behavior I feel confident that if you were to put a member of the kkk in a room with his own sister he would commence intercourse immediately. All the while yelling "ah must protect the purty of da whayte race!" after which point he would fall asleep by counting sheep but only up to 5 "cuz dat iz all he know" and roll into a pile of filth for warmth like a common pig.

Thank you Primal Red now that I know how to stereotype I can confidently say that the KKK will never be a smart or effective organization because they are all mentally deficient backwater turdpiles.

Thank you for the gift of stereotyping Primal Red this is going to be the best Christmas ever!!!

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Stereotyping is unintelligent because it is the assumption that humans are predictable when the reality is we are highly unpredictable. It is also unintelligent since it groups people together regardless of whether or not those people act as a group or even see themselves as a group.

Your words not mine.