Muslim girl gang who kicked young woman in the head while yelling 'kill the white slag' escape jai, page 2
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reply posted on 6-12-2011 @ 07:18 AM by EvanB
reply to post by kerazeesicko

I appreciate what you are saying but the truth of it is if they had been white they wpuld not have got off period..

One law for everyone or it creates resentment.

Religion, race or creed is no justification for breaking the law. If we are to live peacefully together then the law should be applied equally to all.

Common sense stuff


reply posted on 6-12-2011 @ 07:24 AM by AnIntellectualRedneck
reply to post by kerazeesicko


Got a big newsflash for you: the kid involved didn't have nothing to do with what went on 50 years ago and longer.

Besides, when it comes to the UK, about the worst lot to be had in history were the Irish, and they're white as snow.

The point? It's people like you, on both sides of the isle, that keep racism alive.
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reply posted on 6-12-2011 @ 07:27 AM by JessopJessopJessop
Originally posted by Dr Cosma
Ah thank you MisterLondon and thank you Loves a conspiracy

I actually never knew that Jewish people didn't eat pork.

Just bloody WOW.

Who don't eat bacon? Apart from vegans and they're heathens! (jokes).



Thanks



A lot of people don't eat pork. In many parts of the world, even for the non-religious, it's perceived culturally as a filthy animal not fit for consumption.

Plenty of Christians don't eat pork either


reply posted on 6-12-2011 @ 07:31 AM by EvanB
Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by EvanB


I read this story myself today, totally terrible. The sentence really does fly in the face of common sense.

However, it did state that the girls were Somalians. This does not excuse them for their behaviour but it may offer an explanation in that these girls will have been raised in a war zone and been used to witnessing extreme levels of violence. In my mind, this is one of the potential side effects of immigration - that is to say bringing in people from areas where their is extreme violence may introduce a level of violence into the host society.

As i said, this doesn't excuse the behaviour and jail sentences should certainly have been down. In future though, it may be worth working with immigrants from such places in order to remove any predilections towards violence.


Completely agree

I wonder how many PTSD suffering immigrants there are who have fell through the cracks in the system.

Maybe a full psychological assesment of people escaping war, and treatment, should be introduced.. Maybe it is already? I dont know, but it is clear that immigration authoroties need to drum responsabilities of citizenry and expectations of them before any rights are explained too


reply posted on 6-12-2011 @ 07:39 AM by Flavian
reply to post by EvanB


Exactly, responsibilities as well as rights. And then explain that the law is the same for everyone, regardless of background or race.

I am all for immigration but there does seem to be a problem with immigrants from Somalia regarding violence. Hell, even the policewoman gunned down in Bradford a few years ago was shot by Somali's. I suspect there is probably the same problem with immigrants from the Congo as well, areas where war and the worst aspects of humanity have been normality for decades.

People deserve a chance to escape from such hell holes. However, they also have a responsibility to act according to the rules of the host nation - that is why i never have any sympathy for Brits that get themselves in trouble through drink or sex in places like Dubai.

It doesn't help young Rhea but it is something we should be looking at in future. I won't hold my breath though......


reply posted on 6-12-2011 @ 07:45 AM by JessopJessopJessop
Originally posted by EvanB
Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by EvanB


I read this story myself today, totally terrible. The sentence really does fly in the face of common sense.

However, it did state that the girls were Somalians. This does not excuse them for their behaviour but it may offer an explanation in that these girls will have been raised in a war zone and been used to witnessing extreme levels of violence. In my mind, this is one of the potential side effects of immigration - that is to say bringing in people from areas where their is extreme violence may introduce a level of violence into the host society.

As i said, this doesn't excuse the behaviour and jail sentences should certainly have been down. In future though, it may be worth working with immigrants from such places in order to remove any predilections towards violence.


Completely agree

I wonder how many PTSD suffering immigrants there are who have fell through the cracks in the system.

Maybe a full psychological assesment of people escaping war, and treatment, should be introduced.. Maybe it is already? I dont know, but it is clear that immigration authoroties need to drum responsabilities of citizenry and expectations of them before any rights are explained too


I'm not sure that washes though. Seen plenty of extreme violence from born and bred Britons in good communities. Unfortunately their behaviour is probably more a reflection of British society as it is Somalian war trauma.

Go up town on Thursday-Saturday and find as many piss-head mobs violently attacking people as you want. Too many examples I can give you of this sort of behaviour and worse. A migrant could come here from a peaceful country and learn that sort of violence from the locals

Unfortunately the reality is they're using their background as a cop out, as with the alcohol.


reply posted on 6-12-2011 @ 08:00 AM by Flavian
reply to post by JessopJessopJessop


I totally understand what you are saying but check the serious crime figures (violent crime). People from a violent background are more likely to use violence and the figures back this up. I brought up the Somalia aspect as that was prominent in the defence - as such it should be free for discussion. Whichever way we dress it up their is an issue that needs addressing.



reply posted on 6-12-2011 @ 08:24 AM by JessopJessopJessop
Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by JessopJessopJessop


I totally understand what you are saying but check the serious crime figures (violent crime). People from a violent background are more likely to use violence and the figures back this up. I brought up the Somalia aspect as that was prominent in the defence - as such it should be free for discussion. Whichever way we dress it up their is an issue that needs addressing.


The legal system cannot let these violent people into the country and then when they commit a crime accept their background and experiences in their home country as defence. Either their background makes them dangerous and they should be denied entry, or allowed entry and faced with the same punishment as any other citizen is.


reply posted on 6-12-2011 @ 08:30 AM by Flavian
reply to post by JessopJessopJessop


Absolutely agree. If you read all of my posts i have said that in future it would be a good idea to work with people from these areas to ensure this type of thing doesn't become common place.

You abide by the laws of the country you reside in, no excuses.


reply posted on 6-12-2011 @ 08:39 AM by Algernonsmouse
reply to post by EvanB


Daily Mail and some blog? Those are the sources on this? Why is it everytime I see a thread about how evil Muslims are attacking white people, it comes from the Daily Mail? EIther they are the only ones taht ever know about this stuff or they are making it up.

Great to see people on ATS just believe anything they are told though. Way to combat ignorance.
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