reply to post by TheImmaculateD1
OK, first off, let's clarify those donors just a little bit.
You know how when you make a political donation, you have to indicate your employer? Yeah...that's what's going on here. These are employees of
these companies, PACs run by those companies, or family members - see the little note on the site itself:
"This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2008 election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came
from the organization's PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include
subsidiaries and affiliates."
I see you also conveniently forgot to leave off the TOP donor tallies:
US Army $78,056
US Navy $56,769
US Air Force $55,405
That out of the way, let's run some numbers here - the total of ALL these listed contributions is $586,664 - a bit over half a million dollars. Now,
do you know how much Paul raised overall during the 2007/2008 election cycle? Roughly $32.6 million dollars, according to the website you yourself
referenced, so let's see...those you claim OWN Paul contributed LESS THAN 2% of the monies he raised. To me, it sounds like his actual owners are the
legions of small donors who poured their hearts, souls, and funds into his campaign!
And now, let's go even further on OpenSecrets.org
- oops! (not sure
why their numbers don't match up, off the bat):
Source of Funds:
Individual contributions: $34,336,169 - 99%
Egads! And only a little over $18k from PACs, with over 99% of his total donations from individuals! Trouble on the "bought-and-paid-for" front,
Chet! But wait, what's this?
Paul's donations were from small donors donating $200 or less each? Jinkies!
So, since your corporate ownership argument is blown utterly out of the water at this point, let's look at your claims of Paul's honesty - which
you've pretty much provided nothing to substantiate. You've argued about his tenure in congress proving that he's part of the problem, but you might
want to give us something in his on-the-record votes or speeches to congress to work with here - and good luck as his record is fairly pristine and
speeches clear as RAILING AGAINST THE SYSTEM AND BEING CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING HE'S PUBLICLY PRESENTED OTHERWISE the entire time.
Long story short, your arguments here have been weighed, measured, and found wanting. Unless you can provide something solid other than claims that
you've personally talked to Paul and think he's a liar, you have *nothing* to stand on here. He's changed TWO positions - for reasons he's clarified
- during his tenure in congress: he's walked his talk. He has consistently taken lone and UNpopular positions, thus hampering his own political
career - voting against the PATRIOT Act and its reauthorizations, voting against the Military Commissions Act of 2006, voted AGAINST going into Iraq
(and warning us clearly about what to expect if we did, ahead of time) - consistently voting against EVERY LITTLE BIT of legislation he feels doesn't
meet constitutional muster or authority. He has warned us about problems years before they occurred - on the record - when all of the "official
experts" were telling us everything was fine and Ron Paul is just crazy.
Your arguments here are simply ludicrous, unless you want to give us verifiable facts to argue with - and I don't see those being forthcoming anytime
soon, for some reason. However, if you've got some more half-truths to spout, I'd love to hear them!
To answer your question
Where's the mom and pop shops? Where is the food companies? Where is the hotels? Where is automotive? Nowhere to be
Do you really think individual (and hence: tiny with few employees) mom-and-pop stores would make ANYONE'S *top donors* list? Good lord, you don't
even know the right questions to ask based on the information you yourself are providing.
edit on 12/7/2011 by Praetorius because: (no reason given)