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Ron Paul: The 45th President Of The United States

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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by AnonymousCitizen

Originally posted by thegagefather
RP is a socialist in the best way, and an isolationist, IMO


I can see the plausible argument for Dr. Paul to be considered an isolationist, but "socialist"? Seriously?



Ya seriously a socialist!? Socialism is what BO wants, it's why he rolled out his Obama Care scheme. Socialism is all about expanding government and shrinking liberties. Ron paul is a constitutionalist, a libertarian.

Why are so many people so worried about the isolationist angle. It's not like Ron Paul wants to cease all international commerce, he just wants to pull back the military. Some Americans are terrified as hell to pull back the military but why, we still would have nuke subs patroling the sea, along with aircraft carriers, and a dormant but opperational star wars program. Ever wonder why people are seeing more and more ufos and yet no alien to media contact has occured... Those craft you see up there are mostly military.

Just look at worthless North Korea. Totally isolated, has no military bases around the world,no friends except China, crappy nukes, no ICBMs, a worthless navy, yet they still exsist. No countries try to invade them, why would any country invade us other than the fact that we have a nazi like foreign policy.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1
 


LOL really?

Care to explain where you figure youve defeated any of us in any topic?


Heres an idea, how bout we stay on THIS one!

Ahh........soo.........again wheres your argument against Paul?

(crickets)

......Yep;.............thought so..........

See If you had a general dislike of him for his policies I could understand that.........

but the fact that you ahve no reason other then saying hes a shill and expecting everyone to buy that DESPITE his obvious history, just because YOU say so..........

Is laughable.........

Consider yourself defeated by none other than ..............yourself!


He couldn't ring the bell! rofl! What else is it impossible for him to do? just askin'. i don't think you've defeated anyone, but are vaguely a legend in your own mind.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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One man's propaganda is another man's truth and consistent candidate. The fact is that Uncle Paul scares the hell out of the status quot in this country. I love it to. The more they snub him the more transparent there intentions for pimping this country out is clear to the American public and the world abroad.

He will never become president because of what he represents. There is no room for truth and consistency in government anymore.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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I already have but it is you who wishes to remain in the dark about his donors. His corporate donors own him. They control him. I remain on topic yet your best rebuttal is to issue the tired old doom and gloom of "Vote for Paul or else the Mexicans are gonna take over!"

Where's the mom and pop shops? Where is the food companies? Where is the hotels? Where is automotive? Nowhere to be found.

He will not be the 45th POTUS and that is that!



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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Those that are quick to attack instead of being bothered to learn automatically forfeit and concede in defeat as they must resort to said tactics is indicative of a defeated person. Simple psychology will tell us this.
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask
 


I already have but it is you who wishes to remain in the dark about his donors. His corporate donors own him. They control him. I remain on topic yet your best rebuttal is to issue the tired old doom and gloom of "Vote for Paul or else the Mexicans are gonna take over!"

Where's the mom and pop shops? Where is the food companies? Where is the hotels? Where is automotive? Nowhere to be found.

He will not be the 45th POTUS and that is that!


Pretty sure my rebuttals were all on his voting record and his past displays of constitutional knowledge......But its ok, i can understand why you would overlook that little inconvenience in favor of dodging the issue

Where did you answer the question? Where in his voting record on the constitution?
Which part of that makes him a shill?

Mom and pop shops? LoL you mean like the money bomb advertisements they did to support his campaign? Oh yeah, you probably dont know anything about all the donations he gets from people like that do ya.......

You know, those mom and pop shops.........

Come on Mr.Government..........I thought you could do better then this.........




I remain on topic yet your best rebuttal is to issue the tired old doom and gloom of "Vote for Paul or else the Mexicans are gonna take over!"


Want to go ahead and tell me when and where I said this? A little racist dont you think
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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Dude. You need to chill out and get back on topic. This isn't about you.

I can't resist though. How did you come to meet all of these celebs and politicos?



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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Those that are quick to attack instead of being bothered to learn automatically forfeit and concede in defeat as they must resort to said tactics is indicative of a defeated person. Simple psychology will tell us this.
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You mean like you did earlier when you came right out of the gate attacking anyone that supports Ron Paul, without any real leg to stand on?

or the part where you tried to infer that you were more intelligent then everyone else??

Just trying to get that straight here, like to make sure my hypocrisys are all in order
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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The man J.P. Morgan was a principle and founding member of The Federal Reserve and is a certified member of The SCUM which means for every election he's taking money from there douchewads.

A literate who's who of The Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council On Foreign Relations and The Project For A New American Century is who owns and controls him. This is who his master is!

I did not attack any posters here as you are free to vote for whomever you want but went right after Paul.
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
This idol worship of the puppet known as Paul is borderline demented and worrysome as he will not do a damn thing for anyone but continually tout and push The SCUM's agenda and that is just that and to believe anything else is a fraud.

The last time a puppet had this much blind support is Reagan and look at where it got our nation?

Does it not matter that he's 78 and pressing 80 as evidenced by Obama, 43 and Clinton is we do not want anymore senior citizens so far removed and disconnected from reality that it isn't funny! The last Grandfather figure we will ever have is 41. Expect the followup to Obama be between 40 - 50 yrs old again as no more fuddy duddies. No more Social Security retirees! No more career Congresspeople. He's been in office in some facet or another for the last 33 years and hasn't done a damn thing for anyone.


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Well, Mr. pessimist, what do you propose as your idea then? Just go with the flow?

At one time I may have agreed with you about not putting a senior citizens in office. Here is why I now disagree with that concept. As it is today, the younger generations X(I fall in here) and Y, I think the Y gen is more so affected.

Considering the fact of how our education teaches hive minded principals and how to not question authority, go along to get along, forcing drugs into them for control, and whole slew of other ideologies, I think the worst thing we could do is put a young person in office, especially if the establishment was successful in brainwashing them as kids. These young people you speak of more than likely do not have a clue as to how things really are. At least with Ron, he has the age to back up his wisdom for a better world. I do not want some young person to be my president that was educated and groomed to the likings of TPTB.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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12.23.1913 - 01.01.2013! This is one of my principle work items! Someone between 45 - 50 coming in is suffice, young enough to still be hip with the youth but old enough to know right from wrong and how to conduct themselves!
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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Let me stop you right there and yell at you for a bit, sorry for yelling but you are dead up and flat out wrong. If we start firebombing the White House and The Congress do you or anyone else realize that will guarandamntee martial law in America permanently ending our Constitution forever. This will do irreparable harm that will make it that much easier for the SCUM to waltz right on in on a white horse promising this and that. Then we'd never win. You attack a Govt institution and make no mistake the big toys come out to play and once they do there ain't nothing in the civilian or militia arsenal that can stop it.

Make The SCUM sweat and launch a move early so that we all can get them that way. Look at how the OWS movement is being operated, let them throw everything at us including the kitchen sink and look the other way each and everytime. Make them ask themselves "How do we break these people?" and let's drive them insane making them wrack their skulls and pull their hair out and go grey while they lose it.


Wow you sound like you are scared of the tyrants. How could they get martial law when the very police and military you propose would enforce this would be part of the uprising. Remember I said all the states against DC... Each state has their own bases and such and therefor could breakaway from the tyrants and uphold the constution in it's true form. Did you forget about our history as a nation aka The American Revolution which at the time seemed the odds were heavily stacked against us.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask
 


The man J.P. Morgan was a principle and founding member of The Federal Reserve and is a certified member of The SCUM which means for every election he's taking money from there douchewads.

A literate who's who of The Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council On Foreign Relations and The Project For A New American Century is who owns and controls him. This is who his master is!

I did not attack any posters here as you are free to vote for whomever you want but went right after Paul.
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Again you are NOT answering the questions.........and you wont because you cant......

We are all aware who and what the Fed is...........

Funny enough Paul wants to take action against the Fed.........again........you probably wouldnt know that.......

Spouting random political knowledge and not addressing me in this forum on your attacking people that support paul, is not getting you anywhere



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by dadgad

Originally posted by thegagefather

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
This idol worship of the puppet known as Paul is borderline demented and worrysome as he will not do a damn thing for anyone but continually tout and push The SCUM's agenda and that is just that and to believe anything else is a fraud.

The last time a puppet had this much blind support is Reagan and look at where it got our nation?

Does it not matter that he's 78 and pressing 80 as evidenced by Obama, 43 and Clinton is we do not want anymore senior citizens so far removed and disconnected from reality that it isn't funny! The last Grandfather figure we will ever have is 41. Expect the followup to Obama be between 40 - 50 yrs old again as no more fuddy duddies. No more Social Security retirees! No more career Congresspeople. He's been in office in some facet or another for the last 33 years and hasn't done a damn thing for anyone.


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Reagan was an actor.
RP is a socialist in the best way, and an isolationist, IMO

And no, I do not believe it does matter that he's 78 and pressing 80. I was have voted for Teddy Roosevelt if he was 90.


A socialist? Calling RP a socialist is like calling your own mother a critter.

RP feels that charity and the church should act as social security, "just as they always did". Now that is not socialism, that is pure liberalism if you ask me.
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One can be both socialist and a libertarian. Socialism is economic. It implies the majority of people claim ownership of their possessions, i.e. companies that start in this country are owned by the citizens and therefore remain loyal to their country of origin and employees - and Liberalism implies morality. Liberalism is the belief in equal rights, freedom of choice, and free trade.

Socialism does not imply the death of Capitalism. It is a way of keeping Capitalism in check. Just as Democracy was supposed to do.

RP is both.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Plans are already in place to take the nation back without needing one shot fired, one person killed. Peaceful recapture and revolution!

Since the United States Secret Service is wholly controlled by The Federal Reserve a long range plan is to remove the USSS from Fed and transfer it to make it a cabinet level position and take The Federal Reserve and place it under the full control of The Dept Of Treasury while abolishing and dissolving the Board Of Governors and The Office of The Chairman and replace the Chairman with a Director and place a Deputy Director in charge of each of the 12 satellite offices of The Federal Reserve. This can be accomplished in a matter of weeks. Transfer the counterfeiting wing of The USSS under a co-op between Treasury and DOJ!

The transfer of preliminary finalization begins by the end of this year with the first phases to be complete sometime in the summer. By the next Winter solstice is when finalization will be complete. Once this completes transfer of title will commence. This is a 10 yr plan that began in 07. Most were kept in the dark due to the ever threat of circumventing it. They already have been told we can do this peacefully or not. As long as The 112 doesn't meet to extend the charter for which there is absolutely no indication that they either intend to or risk the consequences. Anon #OpMayhem and #OpRobinHood is the first wave!

Bernake's term will end as scheduled 2015 and Giethner's will conclude as scheduled sometime between 2013 - 2016. 12.21.1913 - 01-.01-2013! I cannot say how I know of this but this ties directly into #OWS

Phase I - The 2008 Economical Crash
Pt I - Infiltration - Started Aug 2007 completed Aug 2008
Pt II - Activation Initiated Aug 2008 completed Nov 2008
Pt III - Exposure - Initiated Nov 2008 completed Jan 2009
Pt IV - Leakspin - Initiated Jan 2009 completed Apr 2009

Phase II - Restoration Of Regulation
Pt I - New Dawn - Initiated July 2009 completed Apr 2010
Pt II - Enlightenment - Initiated May 2010 completed July 2010
Pt III - Exile - Initiated Sept 2010 completed Nov 2010
Pt IV - New Era - Initiated Nov 2010 completed Feb 2011

Phase III - Recapture And Restructure
Pt I - Global Enlightenment - Initiated Aug 2011 completed 2012
Pt II - Starvation - Initiated Oct 2011!
Pt III - Apr - June 2012!

Have no illusion and make no mistake that The SCUM and I are very well acquainted with one another and they know of what I can do.
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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He voted for PATRIOT in 01!
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You mean the House recorder got it wrong? Wow!
clerk.house.gov...



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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I don't know, man. Meeting with Matchbox is one thing, but how that translates into meeting with people we would "kill to meet" is a little hard to understand.

Anyway, go Ron Paul!



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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All this is in place and the nation is going to be "re-taken"? But Ron Paul is just a puppet?

Who is gonna re-take the nation again?

BTW how is Benjamin Fulford doing? Talked to him lately?


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