Calling Demons and using them

Demons, Mormons, girl guides, scouts, door to door salesmen, Jehovah's witnesses, carol singers and trick or treaters...

They all respond well to "Bugger off".. Though the Jehovah's are the most resistant.

Originally posted by Chopper
I know the original poster personally. You guys do not believe in freedom of religion at all. Just let him believe what you want. You Christians always like pressing your religion on others and trying to post passages of the bible like that going to work. I been know him since 2007, he is not a nutcase like you guys try to make him out to be. He is a funny and cool guy. I seen him did his rituals in person. Me, I do not do magic personally, I just a college student studying computer information systems.

Nice! My first thought was that he is practicing Crowley techniques. I've had a few friends who have gone beyond the stage of calling on demons. According to Crowley, you'll be their toy until you call on them and feed them. After that, they work for you. This isn't so evil or dark, actually. Demons have been around for a while. They are still entitled to free will, just like you and I. We have the ability to set boundaries with them.

The Tibetans had an issue with too many demons. They called on them and told them they had to leave or take a job protecting the dharma (sacred teachings) and dharma practitioners.

OP absolutely has a right to freedom of religion and thought. It's notable to me that those I know who are 'Wiccan' usually never hesitate to cast a spell to 'get what they want'. That's a childish use of magic. Those I've known who are into Crowley wouldn't dream of doing that. They understand much more about reality than the Wiccans. Of course, you can't judge a practitioner of anything by the labels.....so there are exceptions. I've met hundreds of Wiccans and only 3 who were initiated into the stages Crowley discussed.

reply to post by RainbeauBleu


Ok so you are saying that wiccans cast spells to get what they want?? Interesting, and this way makes more sense because asking a demon to do your dirty work does not make you the responsible party. You only asked, and they provided. Kinda backwards if you ask me.

PLPL

reply to post by ramle
You are way over your head! As this appears to be no concern to you I doubt your family and friends would appreciate the danger you just put on them. Interdenominational beings have been around since creation and operate on all dimensions, except one. On a evolutionary scale you are on the bottom. Not to mention there hatred for human beings. We are the reason they were exiled from there home, never to return, waiting and preparing for their judgment and one last stand. Until that day, their war rages on and there battlefield is earth.Now you have joined there ranks as an expendable pawn! For all the pain and suffering millions of humans being endure everyday,know has your blood on it. They survive on your energy like a parasite sucking you dry and tiring to attach themselves to anyone you interact with. Finally, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. Hate to break it to you, but if you believe in demons you also believe in God. One cannot exist without the other.

Originally posted by Minori
reply to post by RainbeauBleu

 

Ok so you are saying that wiccans cast spells to get what they want?? Interesting, and this way makes more sense because asking a demon to do your dirty work does not make you the responsible party. You only asked, and they provided. Kinda backwards if you ask me.

PLPL

My mother used to buy magazines published monthly regarding the paranormal and one regular column was a Wiccan white witch who gave spells to those who wrote in asking for help and advice so yeah, they seem to have a spell for everything from love potions to getting more money to helping you sleep better at night.

I've read most of this thread and a lot of posts seem to be under the "don't do it, you don't know what you're doing, demons are evil" impression.

Now me personally, I don't nor won't summon demons but I also won't judge the OP. If he wants to do it and clearly knows more about it than I do then why should I or others who also don't know what they're talking about try and call him insane or insult or whatever?

Satanism is all about the power of you as an individual having free will and the ability to do what you like which is the opposite of Christianity's teaching to be a servant of an invisible ruler and do His bidding in order to have a semi-decent life.

If I didn't hate all religions including Satanism, I know which of those two sounds more ideal to humans. One enforces that you're responsible for your own actions and free to live life the way you want and the other enforces that you have to ask God to forgive you for looking at porn.

Now while the OP doesn't (or might not) subscribe to Satanism, isn't it his free will what he does in his spare time? I'd rather see 12 pages of discussion on the subject and questions asked of the OP than 12 pages of abuse, insults and "all demons are wrong and evil, my Bible told me so".

Remember, up until 100 years ago, fairies were seen as inherently evil for centuries until they became a mythical source of good somehow. Maybe we're wrong about angels and demons too?

reply to post by curious7


Knowledge about occult was suppressed for a reason. The church and nations couldn't handle people becoming empowered so they hid the truth and did anything to discredit reality.

reply to post by curious7


I agree that we are all entitled to our own belief system. He does appear to be very informed on this particular way of summoning demons, this is one of the countless that exist. I am not a fan of senseless destruction like the OP. Do I really believe that he is able to do all this "majic" stuff, yeah, will he produce any results, no. The real majic happens when the person has absolute faith in themselves and what they believe in....ABSOLUTE. There is no room for barter there, it has to be absolute. The OP has a very good reason to be upset, his point is valid, but his actions are not. There are other ways to deal with things besides getting all destructoman like.

PLPL

reply to post by ramle


The church and TPTB withheld the information to keep it from falling into the wrong hands. The esoteric knowledge is a subject that in itself is an enigma. I do not agree with all the secrecy, share the knowledge, we all have something to learn, from every little experience we have.

reply to post by Minori
Lets look at 2 society's of old . The mayans were unbelievably enlighten in astronomy. They knew the distance from earth to the sun better then we did.There accuracy was amazing. They mapped out our solar system so acculturate by just starring at the stars at night, OK! We know there spiritual God, demanded blood sacrifice. Then literally in one day vanished from the face of the earth. The Egyptians harnessed,"forbidden Archeology" electricity and had knowledge of flight, The artifact of a bird carved out of wood discovered by archeologist was aerodynamically perfect. They also were pagans knee deep in blood rituals.In the Egyptian bible a day of destruction is described very similar to the flood of Noah. All over the world the ancients went out of there way to make monuments that would stand the test of time. It is my believe that these were warnings signs of an event! Something that was so destructive, those who survived left monuments to warn future generations. If you look from above the pyramids they are identical to the constellation Leo. All of the spiral circles in south America and all over the world were not fully understood until the Norway Spiral. In response to your reply I was hard on that guy. Of course anyone can knell before any god or goddess they choose. My problem are younger people on this forum that could be misguided. We as a society have forgotten what energy surrounds us and how powerful these interdenominational beings are.In other words we as a whole do not believe in miracles and possession as we regard them as fairy tells. When you pursue such things you must respect it! The elites in this world are sons of the Light. Hell ask a Freemason today and they are coming out not even denying the Satan is the true messiah. Unfortunately, due to current events, earth changes on a scale never recorded since we have kept records, the whole world is broke, Denver is the new Intelligence hub for the US, Literally! etc. We need to wake up! Ask yourself this, Is this business as usual? I am not saying the world will end 2morrow, just we are being lied 2 and for one I am feed up! Be safe out there!

Originally posted by Cosmic911

This is a troll thread and not worth the stars and flags that it has...please stop posting!

Yea i got to page 2 and was about to say the same thing it's ridiculous the OP might as well have posted here's how to make a nuclear weapon and launch it but don't do it if you are human lol....

Originally posted by Minori
reply to post by RainbeauBleu

 

Ok so you are saying that wiccans cast spells to get what they want?? Interesting, and this way makes more sense because asking a demon to do your dirty work does not make you the responsible party. You only asked, and they provided. Kinda backwards if you ask me.

PLPL

I've been asked by Wiccan friends to join in spells to punish their perceived enemies. I don't swing like that and I'm not a witch nor a Crowley practitioner...whatever you call them. I've also heard several Wiccans bragging about the pain or suffering they caused someone with their magic. It's very egotistical and small minded. Like I said, I'm sure not all Wiccans fly like that, but most of those I've met seem to. Maybe it's their youth and movies like "The Secret" or Charmed (the series) etc.

The Crowley practitioners were extremely hesitant to work on anyone else's behalf and completely convinced that it was wrong to work on their own behalf. They seemed to have a belief that the very act of changing a facet of reality like that could produce harmful effects. Manifesting revenge, money or health isn't on the menu. That's not what Crowley's work was about. They aren't using demons like you suggested because it goes against their beliefs. The demons are acknowledged as a part of reality though. There's more to spirituality and awareness than manifesting your desires. It might be more of an affirmation of power to accept reality as is instead of constantly changing it to suit one's whims. Manifestation is not the ultimate level of achievement.

**It's a troll thread, but no one cares here IF it starts a 'good' discussion. I think I saw that in T & C. I was curious about other troll threads and found that explanation somewhere which explained why they remain.

reply to post by RainbeauBleu


Then i'll join in on the fun....the semantics on whether or not someone believes in magik is sort of irrelevant to what i'm about to post, that being said i'm againts the use of magik for various reasons but one (and maybe one of the most important) is the very reason you gave and that is some of your wiccan friends wanted to do harm to there perceived enemy well there's so many things wrong with that on so many levels but the basics are what if they preceive the wrong enemy and attack someone who they misunderstood then it's ok???? Now that person probably has there life runied and for what revenge....


I'v done my fair share of studies into the esoteric and i have seen some strange things in my life time to know that magik is something that shouldn't be practiced, now i know the OP went into some what of a satire to the point it was laughable but in a very funny way they bring up potential dangers of this to the point other posters said your going to wind up dead so anything that has the potential to do this much harm should never be practiced in my opinion.....

Originally posted by King Seesar
reply to post by RainbeauBleu

 

Then i'll join in on the fun....the semantics on whether or not someone believes in magik is sort of irrelevant to what i'm about to post, that being said i'm againts the use of magik for various reasons but one (and maybe one of the most important) is the very reason you gave and that is some of your wiccan friends wanted to do harm to there perceived enemy well there's so many things wrong with that on so many levels but the basics are what if they preceive the wrong enemy and attack someone who they misunderstood then it's ok???? Now that person probably has there life runied and for what revenge....


I'v done my fair share of studies into the esoteric and i have seen some strange things in my life time to know that magik is something that shouldn't be practiced, now i know the OP went into some what of a satire to the point it was laughable but in a very funny way they bring up potential dangers of this to the point other posters said your going to wind up dead so anything that has the potential to do this much harm should never be practiced in my opinion.....

I have a picture of a real demon going out of my mouth and pics of unclean spirits..I dont have the phone service to put on the internet..Its a track phone with a camera..I take pictures of myself all the time and erase them as well if there not of real evidence..I have shod these pictures to my pastor...I got my head thrown into a table and when the demon released me on the way out snapped a picture of my self and caught him coming out..Why in the world wound anyone want to mess with demons and witch craft is beyond me..These are not nice spirits..Your asking for so much trouble here...I know it full well.

If someone can tell me how in the world i get these pic on the computer i will post them..I like like death in them because evil is death..Watch the exercisem of some one and you'll see what evil can do..

reply to post by eeks4


This is what you are facing messing with evil sources of any kind..Please rethink what your are doing..www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by eeks4
reply to post by eeks4

 

This is what you are facing messing with evil sources of any kind..Please rethink what your are doing..www.youtube.com...

This is real folks...I dont get myself really possessed cause im holy and going threw suffering for our Lord Jesus..but i have had demons rack me up and a unclean spirits beats me down all the time..If you get into evil deeds and call on demons as friends they will use you and kill you afterwards...You cant fight a demon unless you are holy and even then its really hard..The op is not understanding the war with the principalities of darkness..they will devour you

Originally posted by Minori
reply to post by curious7

 

I agree that we are all entitled to our own belief system. He does appear to be very informed on this particular way of summoning demons, this is one of the countless that exist. I am not a fan of senseless destruction like the OP. Do I really believe that he is able to do all this "majic" stuff, yeah, will he produce any results, no. The real majic happens when the person has absolute faith in themselves and what they believe in....ABSOLUTE. There is no room for barter there, it has to be absolute. The OP has a very good reason to be upset, his point is valid, but his actions are not. There are other ways to deal with things besides getting all destructoman like.

PLPL

Something that we have to understand is that the magic comes from the spirits not really us....When you play on a ouju board its your energy calling a demon or a unclean spirit..when you use the Tara cards its energy...that plays the cards but you have to understand its not just the person doing this with hes or her mind its real spirits that are around that we dont see that are telling us what we want to hear...

We as people are powerless..We may have psychic abilities of our brain which gives us what we think is power..But the real power behind everything is the spirits...If it is power we want i would suggest the power of God not the devil...But if it is evil power we want then the spirits are the ones who do this stuff and we as people think that we are doing it when we are really not..

I hope i did this correct..When you look at this picture you will see the black smoke cloud of a devil...This is how real it is messing around with demons...what do you see in this pic..What does it look like to you.??

These are real pictures big time...if you have the visual where i circled there sits Lucifer and my self..The devil wanted me and here is little proof..He didst get what he wanted but i get racked up on a 24 hour basis cause of it...

Originally posted by eeks4
These are real pictures big time...if you have the visual where i circled there sits Lucifer and my self..The devil wanted me and here is little proof..He didst get what he wanted but i get racked up on a 24 hour basis cause of it...

The rest of my proof on me i cant get on the computer..But the devil did not get me..And you want to call on demons or teach other how to..You inviting people to be possessed is what you are doing putting something like this on the computer..You really should be ashamed of your self for this..But it is a free world..Good luck to you and anyone who calls on evil..I keep you in my prayers...Amen

reply to post by Thersander


This is far more then business as usual. As more and more people start to "wake up", the worse it will get. Safe passage to you as well me friend.

PLPL