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Disclosure 101

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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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I wasn't talking about you. I was speaking generally. A lot of ATS members would never believe or trust the government if information was released in that manner. Heck, I doubt if anyone on this site trusts the government.




posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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Every other day....we get a topic that deals with Disclosure. And evry time this happens....I have to go on the thread and explain why it won't happen and why it is a good thing that it won't happen and why it will be about 500 years before it happens and why people besides us here....don't care or want to know about it.

It is like a circle we go around and around again and again.

I will say this.....if you believe in a GOD or GAIA or whatever.....PRAY very hard that disclosure does not happen!

It would be a disaster! It would tear us apart! It would stiffle our ability to naturally progress and evolve!

There is a very good man who made a very tough and difficult decision.....IKE.....and he did the right thing!

And most importantly.....he made it so NO ONE ON EARTH.....could manipulate the data or the info. or the tech. or the reality of this issue.....and especially made it impossible for politicians to control or direct it.

Only two U.S. Presidents knew the whole of it......IKE.....and BUSH SR.....and even they were not allowed to interfere or direct it once it started. Be gratful it exists! Split Infinity



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 12:11 AM
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You'd save yourself an awful lot of time if you'd pay attention.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by fusion47
reply to post by SplitInfinity
 


You'd save yourself an awful lot of time if you'd pay attention.



LOL! I am probably beyond saving but please expound? Split Infinity



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 12:24 AM
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It is one thing to have a mental idea of how you think you feel about alien life but the reality when faced with it is another thing.

Think about how it can shock you to the core when you happen upon a person who has been terribly disfigured.

When seeing someone in such a shocking state causes adrenalin to course through your veins and eventually settle leaving you almost breathless, until you finally adjust and move forward with either an uncomfortable smile or an awkward dismissal as if you didn't see them, and then amplify that sense until you almost raise a vibrational level or two, you know how people will react rather than respond to the reality of alien intelligence.

People are not ready, they really cannot handle it yet.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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Thank you ANTAR. You are very correct. People are no where near ready! I was not ready and still am not. If you could see the big picture...as they do...you would not either understand or be able to quantify or define it.

It is a matter that is so complex that we have problems dealing with even the simplest of things about it.
Split Infinity



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:12 AM
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Agreed, I shake my head when I imagine all the warring mean people learning about alien life anywhere let alone here. This planet is so dark and undeveloped, we are so scary.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by Cosmic911
reply to post by angellicview
 


I wasn't talking about you. I was speaking generally. A lot of ATS members would never believe or trust the government if information was released in that manner. Heck, I doubt if anyone on this site trusts the government.


Oops! Sorry about that, I misunderstood what you meant.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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in a way we have disclosure just not from the govt. shows like ancient aliens etc.. would never have been shown on national tv before now. it's like a trickle down effect little snippets of truth. what they should do is rip the band-aid off with quick force, open the flood gates of disclosure, most people I think could handle it but sadly they don't have the ba!!$ to tell the truth. they only have the Ba!!$ to maintain the lie................................................



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 11:09 AM
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No prob!



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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Love your avatar! Is that Raistlin?



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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Me: "I'm going to eat a turkey sandwich. How do you think it'll be served? What toppings? What sides? Whatever you do, don't try to talk me out of it!"

You: "Don't eat it! You'll get sick. Have some soup instead."



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 11:55 PM
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Civilization would rationalize the disclosure of Aliens.

Religion and it's various multitude of followers have for eons rationalized and fit / molded religion to fit their various needs. So too would modern day religious factions shape and adjust their faith into something that accepts Alien life into their accepted normalcy.

Did the Earth go mad when it was proven it was not flat?

Did the people of this plant shake to the very core of their beings when we left our sphere for outer space?

Every day, we accomplish things that truly tear away at the blindfold that religion covers us with.

It's paranoia that denies us the courage to step out of the primordial darkness, into the illumination prepared for us by outer spheres of influence.

If we're unable to step out there by ourselves, then truly we do not deserve to be there.

I would look directly at the people in this thread, who pull us back into the shadowy recesses of ignorance, as the main culprits of our hesitation to evolve. In your honest and earnest attempts at saving humanity from itself, you're preventing us from moving forward.

We all know that it hurts to grow. The phrase "growing pains" has never held so much truth as in this instance.

Pain is a part of life, just as much as pleasure is. If you're afraid of the pain that comes along with disclosure, then you're dooming us to untold generations of people left unable to quantify and come to personal disclosure with their own experiences in this matter.

You would rather keep us bent, folded into the box that is your own ideals, until we either die or the box breaks?

I would argue that your ideals regarding the necessity for preventing disclosure are just as painful, if not more painful, than the revelation that we are not and have never been alone.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 12:03 AM
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unfortunately no. my Avatar is from a sci fi tv show Babylon 5 from the mid to late 90's a Technomage
best description, They are described as using "science to create the appearance of magic" here is where you can learn more

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 12:33 AM
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Wolf Blitzer: "Breaking news: CNN has just learned that the gray aliens may have been interacting in some form with the United States since the mid 1940s. More details to follow."

Brian Williams: "Tonight's top story: Our sources indicate that the aliens have a complex social hierarchy based on transdimensional vibrational frequencies. We go to Professor Stephen Hawking for more..."

Anderson Cooper: "Reporting live from Denver, Colorado...site of the alien's landing three months ago. The area is still quarantined, but new details are emerging as to... "


Could you freakin' imagine?!



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 08:00 PM
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at this point it's not about what if that will happen? it's more like when will that happen?


my guess soon!!!!!!!!



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by fusion47
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Me: "I'm going to eat a turkey sandwich. How do you think it'll be served? What toppings? What sides? Whatever you do, don't try to talk me out of it!"

You: "Don't eat it! You'll get sick. Have some soup instead."


OK....so....if I knew that the Turkey Meat in the sandwich was Toxic or infested with Human Killing organisms.....and you didn't know.....Your arguement is.....THAT YOU DON'T WANT ME TO WARN YOU?

Or a more apt analogy would be....I have a blind man with a GUN pressed against my head......and he tells me....if you say one word to the guy about to eat the sandwich on the table that I have poisoned with a deadly toxin.....I will kill you....but since he is blind.....I can get away with putting MAYO on the sandwich that the blind man has at gin point forced me to make for you while even other of his associates are in the room watching....he still pours poison on the sandwich....but I don't know you well and you don't know me well....but I do know that you hate MAYO BECAUSE in the short time we have known each other....you have always ordered mustard and check your fast food burger to make sure it has no mayo and I have heard you tell the fast food worker not to put mayo on it because you are allergic to it.....but the blind man with the gun as well as his associates who hold my family hostage and force me to get a job a few days prior working along side you at a city Dept of Public Works.....do not know that you are allergic to mayo and always check....nor...given the short time I have known you....this is my third day with you....they cannot reasonably assume that I knew this as you pick up the sandwich in the break room and I am in the office with a gun to my head....and you don't know your best friend is dead who brought the food to make a sandwich that your friend knows you can't have mayo.....but he is not there and I am.....so he says....I can't eat this i am allergic to MAYO....don't you know that?

I reply....sorry...this is only my third day on the job....I didn't know! Even if he says....don't you remember me ordering no mayo at Mc...whatevers....I reply....sorry I didn't know! I thought you were pissed about the cold french fries!

This saves your life....my life....and allows more time for me to figure a way out since the ones trying to kill you with my finger prints...have more than enough reasonable doubt...plus...they can try to kill you again at dinner!

So THIS IS YOUR ARGUEMENT in your reply? You have no idea what is going on. I have but the tiniest glimmer and I don't know. But what I do know is this....If the identity of the Blind Man as well as his associates were DISCLOSED TO YOU....they would just shoot you right then and there! Split Infinity



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 10:11 PM
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