Obama the last President.

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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1


Really?

So his policy's NEVER have ANY impact on the way people feel about him?


This thread is not about Obama bashing. You have plenty of threads for that.

If you actually read what I'm saying - - - you just might get the point I am making - - - which fits the subject of this thread.

The Prophecy - - - in question.




posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by NotThat
...or if the American people would vote to have no President.

I wonder if they will have "None of the above" on the ballot this election, or if I'll have to write it in again.

Seriously, I've always wondered if 2008 wasn't the "last" election. No election, no President? Military rule?



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
Here's another link in ATS discussing Baba Vanga's prediction that WW3 would start November 10, 2010.



From stuff I've read/listened to over the years - - - we seem to be about 10 years behind projected dates. (No - there are no links - as it is an accumulation of information).

If there is (for what ever reason) a programmed "Game of Life" - - - we are lagging. We have dragged our feet in uselessness and unnecessary distractions.

Perhaps this is the reason for such a "hard push" from the Bush administration. Do they know something?

Anyway - - I suggest adding 10 years to any prediction/PROPHECY (not written in stone - - of course).



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by NotThat

t would be interesting if one of Obama's names means "moon".



The moon is "feminine divine". The Moon holds such a natural fascination for us, doesn't she? How often are we absolutely wowed by her beauty when we happen to glance up at the night sky? Whether she is in her full aspect or in her crescent phase - which I like to call "the bow of Artemis", seeing the Moon illuminating the dark of night inspires us to pause a moment and experience her beauty. She is magic, she is mystery, and she is grace. www.consciousmindjournal.com...

Could "moon" refer to a woman - - rather then a name?

Could it be referring to a woman president - - as in Nostradamus predictions (as some believe)?

Could it be referring to Hillary Clinton?

(I am not stating anything as fact - - this is just speculation - - within the context of the PROPHECY. LOL - I really am trying to stay within the topic parameters :lol



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by allouttabubblegum
I think it may be a possibility. Although a highly unlikely one. That being said, the current political climate in Washington is degrading a fair amount. It was always a system based and checks and balances - trite I know - but for whatever reason it worked because the politicians kept to the spirit of this and tried to actually accomplish things. Currently, that doesn't necessarily seem to be the case, their seems to be more of an emphasis towards using the checks and balances to stop the whole system, a veritable method of throwing bodies in the gears until it grinds to a halt - effectively hampering the entire process of governance. Note the sheer amount of unaccepted presidential positions waiting to be ratified for example.

It remind me of bit of the last days of the Roman Republic, where Sulla recognized a flaw in the system that had never been exploited only to give power back the the Republic, although the damage was done as Julius recognized the potential, and the rest, they say, it history.


I didn't know that. Thanks for the info about Sulla. I took Latin as a kid in high school and we spent a lot of time talking about the Roman culture. I don't remember any Latin but for the past 10 years or so I have been struck with how similiar our culture is to that of the Roman Empire before the colapse. Our culture has become one of self obsortion and excess. We want more and more, bigger and bigger.

I worry that we can't continue on this path.

Someone said that you can tell when a culture is about to fall: the people are rude. Doesn't that describe much of our "city" attitude?



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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I actually think that Hillery was supposed to be president instead of Obama. Perhaps "all hell breaks loose" because the time is right for such things.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by allouttabubblegum
I wouldn't be too worried about the who one world government right now, given the way that the Euro is going.


I was thinking the same thing!

Our media says that Obama is held in high regard but the video posted earlier doesn't show the international community to be wild about Obama. I always assumed that an American President would some day govern the world because the United States seems to be some kind of world cop. As I get older I see that The United States acts for its own interests, and not especially to be kind.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by TheCounselor
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Oh. I was wondering why the Lady of Fatima would say anything about race. Come to find out, it was someone else.


Sorry. I thought the Lady of Fatima said something about the United States being destroyed by a comet landing in the Atlantic Ocean near the east coast. Didn't Kennedy or Jackie go talk to the Pope about a Fatima prediction?

Anyway, I thought they were connected.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by NotThat
. . . for the past 10 years or so I have been struck with how similar our culture is to that of the Roman Empire before the collapse. Our culture has become one of self absorption and excess. We want more and more, bigger and bigger.

I worry that we can't continue on this path.

Someone said that you can tell when a culture is about to fall: the people are rude. Doesn't that describe much of our "city" attitude?


Oh - you get a star for that one.

I think of the OWS movement and wonder - - - who thought to show up in clothes made in America. Did they get there on bikes made in America. Is there even an American made Smart Phone? Did they give up any foreign made luxury to support America?



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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Anyways here are some correct translation of the link that i provided about Baba Vanga on the previous page:

“Каква война? Ванга никога не е правила такива предсказания! Някой си ги измисля, после други ги преповтарят и така се стресират хората. Спекулират с името й, защото всички й вярват”, коментират дългогодишни съседки и приятелки на пророчицата в Петрич.


Transaltion: "what war? Vanga has never made such a prediction! Somebody fabricates (those predictions), than others repeats them and the people are getting stressed (by the predictions).They speculate with her name, because everybody believes what she has to tell" says her neighbor and friend"



Ели Горева казва, че непрекъснато сънува Ванга. “На 11 август почивам, на 12-и ще се чудят дали да ми вземат мозъка за изследване, на 13-и ме погребват, на 14-и пътувам, а на 15-и ще бъда на трапезата на Богородица”.


Translation: Eli Goreva tells what Vanga told her about her own death. "on 11th of August i'll die, on 12th they will consider whether or not to take my brain for study, on 13th i'll be buried, on 14th i'll travel, on 15th of August i'll be on the dining table with the Holy Mother"


“Виждаше и в миналото, и в бъдещето, но предсказания за Трета световна война не съм чула да е правила.” Горева смята, че и предсказанията за атентата срещу кулите близнаци в Ню Йорк, потъването на “Курск”, избора на чернокож президент на САЩ също са преувеличени. Появили се след смъртта й и никой не обявил кога ги е чул от Ванга.


Translation: She was looking into the past, and the future but prophecies about third world war i have not heard from her". Goreva tell that the prophecies about the 9/11, the Kursk and about the black president of USA are also fictitious. They have appeared after her death and nobody have told when she has told those prophecies.


Строго се придържала към библията. Казвала, че всичко за света е описано в нея, но трябва да се чете внимателно и да се тълкува.


Translation: She has lived by the bible. She has said that everything about the world is said in the Bible, but it should be read carefully and to be interpreted.


Петър Баков, с когото са обсъждали живота извън материята, също не е чувал предсказания за война. “Питал съм я, но все ми казваше: “Не бой се, сине, нема страшно. Нема да има Трета световна”, спомня си Баков. Смята, че животът отвъд материята, който не можем да видим, няма да допусне унищожаване на земята. “Ние сме продукт и плод на извънземния разум. Няма майка, която да убие детето си”, допълва петричанинът.


transaltion: Peter Bakov, with whom she has talked stuff about the world, also have not heard about third world war. "i have asked her, but she always told me: do not fear my son there is nothing to fear of. There would not be a III world war" - he tells. Life beyond matter, which we can not see, will not allow annihilation of the Earth. We are a product of an extraterrestrial intelligence (knowing that she has been a firm Christian i am quite sure she is talking of God and not aliens here). There is no mother who will kill her child" remembers Peter.
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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It will be interesting to see if the Pope steps down next April when he turns 85, as once mentioned in an Italian newspaper in September. The Vatican is denying it, but we'll see...

www.newsmax.com...



I didn't know a Pope could quit.
Thanks for the article.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by NotThat
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I actually think that Hillary was supposed to be president instead of Obama. Perhaps "all hell breaks loose" because the time is right for such things.


That is very possible.

She really should be VP candidate in 2012. Will be interesting to see what really happens.

I am woman - - one year older then Hillary. Our gender has come a long way - - but it is still a man's world. Hillary should not be so arrogant to decline the VP if offered to her. IMO it is doubtful a woman will be elected straight off. She would need to become president from a secondary position.

Still trying to stay within parameter of topic: PROPHECY



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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Let's forget politics and get back to the prediction.
Thanks.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
Here's another link in ATS discussing Baba Vanga's prediction that WW3 would start November 10, 2010.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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I forgot about that one. The prediction stated that the 44th President would be black and would be the last President because the United States would have an economic crisis that would start a conflict between the north and the south states, that would eventually lead to WWIII.

That would explain why we would have military rule.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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Go 5-6 posts up i have explained all about Baba Vanga's prophesies. That one too is not true.
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined


Oooops! But then again, the other thread says that Baba Vanga's Facebook pages states that Baba Vanga never made any WW3 prophecies, that a Russian newspaper made it up. Should have known.
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You know, it doesn't really matter who made the prediction. It is just a very interesting idea to think about.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by Timing
No, he won't be the last president. There will be many presidents after him. I know everyone is itching for the downfall of the US and can't wait till America is run by a dictatorship, but it isn't going to happen. The information is out there now to stop it before it get's to that point and if it does get to that point we won't ever hear about it and nobody will notice a thing.


But if our 44th President was the last President, what would have happened to cause that? And if the last President and the last Pope ended their jobs at the sametime, what could cause such a thing?



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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Off topic.
Please stick to the prediction.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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Re-elected or not, he is still our 44th President and black. The prediction doesn't say how long the 44th President is in office, only thet he is the last one.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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Sorry they are not in English.
It doesn't really matter who made the prediction. It is still interesting.





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