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The Eternal Connectedness Of Time

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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by Nurelic
Has everything that has happened in the past just one of an infinite number of timelines? If time travel was possible, all it takes is for one person to travel back to, let's say, 5,000 years ago, over and over again. Has this time realm in which we live been broken down into a holodeck type realm where people, places, and events can be relived, remembered, and reawakened? Would an endless amount of dimensions and timelines get created as a result?

I remember reading an article a while back that talked about the drug 'dmt'. A professor who spent a lot of time researching the drug decided to go on a dmt trip and get the full experience of it. He felt like he had completely left his body and made his way into this room full of other beings. Most of the beings looked alien until he came across a man that looked like an Aztec from the 1400's. He was in a corner vomiting on himself and then looked up and noticed the professor. He nodded his head to the professor in respect and looked glad to see a fellow human.
Was this an actual encounter with someone from the past? Were they both in a certain state of consciousness where time doesn't exist and were able to communicate with each other? If so, what if in some way the professor was able to show the Aztec man that he was from the future? And what if the Aztec man told about his experience and what he saw to his people. Interesting indeed.

Time travel, if possible, seems much more like a consciousness thing than a physical thing.


I think you hit the nail on the head. Time travel is not possible physically, as far as we know, however consciously we can travel time, since consciousness is not tied to time like our physical bodies. Your explanation of what went on with the professor and the aztec man is spot on. However going back to the beginning of your post you were talking about creating timelines and such. I would say that time is alot loke energy, it cannot be created or destroyed only transformed. You could go back 5000 years ago, and do something different a million times, and create a million different timelines. But in reality you are not creating these timelines, because they already exist. Techniquely it is all happening now. Something that happened 10,000 years ago is happening right now, and vice versa. The difference is in dimension, not time. This is why time travel is really travel between dimensions, and is also why the professor can see the aztec man even though they may be separated by a couple thousand years, because in reality there consciousness are connected on a plane other than space and time




posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:39 PM
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being conscious is surely never about proving anything, conscious dont mean to profit from things

conscious by definition is absolutely objective so never mean any for itself when also it is called self conscious for what u cant b absolutely objective but about urself, where there is no business either in proving any since there is noone else there

so surely what u call consciousness is the opposite of what normal conscious are

u mean knowledge pretense for whatever abuse of what u will pretend knowing for whatever free life u might get from those pretenses in evil objective ways of

u cannot call knowledge, consciousness just to sound straight

conscious is being objective from realizing smthg objectively as ur relative self that give u a free sense of being truly existing, conscious is out of urself but also relative to ur true free sense out of all objective
then conscious is what is mostly u as unik identity from what u principally are and what u could end as a living free objectively alone by urself

so consciousness is the evil oness u mean to justify god killing all and any free conscious rights

conscious is to individuals rights it cant b consciousness



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by Doublemint
reply to post by absolutely
 


so you are saying consciousness is evil? if you can't prove anything then its probablly better to not bring it up.


and how is it better to not bring what u cant prove ? better for who or what, what do any has to do with another words or posts on a forum, what an individual say is all to him, how what u say u must prove it before opening ur mouth, and how then tales and fictions are without having to prove any



posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 12:53 PM
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There is no tomorrow.
youtu.be...



posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 01:57 PM
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Belief in time is just a lack of acceptance and fear of the now, because we wish that things were something else other than what they are, and so belief in time can only be justified by the hope in better things as yet unseen. A cynic who is time based, is screwed, but for an optimist, time is just a tool for perfecting his craft.



posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 03:05 PM
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on the contrary the fear is from time, which makes u aware that all is fake so u cant believe any while witnessing urself everyday existing on volcanic ground more where monsters fly ahead to grap u at any time in their tales

time is only for who love lies like u in revealing that who love lies hate truth

why do u hate truth, go read the thread made for



posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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it is mostly a question of willing vs giving when it comes to freedom

true freedom is through giving any perspective recognition of existing while moving back to confirm being free right

ur freedom is by moving anyhow while screaming loud to anything standing ur ways



posted on Dec, 8 2011 @ 05:22 PM
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absolutely, where r u from?

because your english is so brocken I can not understand a word your saying



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 05:05 AM
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obviously im not where u r then there is no point to talk to me

it is dramatic fact how people insist to b through the fallacy that all is one, so they can use any to stand for saying any

hey what u do not understand or like is not ur business then, ur business is only out of what u understand and enjoy



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Doublemint
reply to post by absolutely
 


can you prove something to me?


I will vouch for him that he can prove he's stoopid.


Other than that, he's on his own.


Ribbit



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Doublemint
reply to post by absolutely
 


so you are saying consciousness is evil? if you can't prove anything then its probablly better to not bring it up.


What wuz said about a fool and his folly?


Ribbit



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
 


There is no tomorrow.
youtu.be...


There's always tomorrow for the Now and When can't happen without the Then. Someday you will get unstuck and see the Light.
Until then, kNot even God can win the fight against stupidity when Stupid is judging the contest.


Ribbit



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Belief in time is just a lack of acceptance and fear of the now, because we wish that things were something else other than what they are, and so belief in time can only be justified by the hope in better things as yet unseen. A cynic who is time based, is screwed, but for an optimist, time is just a tool for perfecting his craft.


You said:

"for an optimist, time is just a tool for perfecting his craft."

It can also be said:

"for an optimist, time is just a tool for crafting his perfection.

Optimists are ambidextrous by nature.


Ribbit



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by Keiju
reply to post by absolutely
 


absolutely, where r u from?

because your english is so brocken I can not understand a word your saying


And English is presumably your first language and yet your punctuation and spelling is worse than his.

People in glasshouse...? Ring any bells?



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by absolutely
reply to post by NewAgeMan
 


on the contrary the fear is from time, which makes u aware that all is fake so u cant believe any while witnessing urself everyday existing on volcanic ground more where monsters fly ahead to grap u at any time in their tales

time is only for who love lies like u in revealing that who love lies hate truth

why do u hate truth, go read the thread made for


To fear Time is to fear God, since both are One in the same. To fear God is to be stoopid, so to fear Time is to be stoopid as well.


Ribbit



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Omphale

Originally posted by Keiju
reply to post by absolutely
 


absolutely, where r u from?

because your english is so brocken I can not understand a word your saying


And English is presumably your first language and yet your punctuation and spelling is worse than his.

People in glasshouse...? Ring any bells?


But peeps who live in glass houses also don't understand sarcasm when they see it.


Ribbit



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
It can also be said:

"for an optimist, time is just a tool for crafting his perfection.


Sounds a little 'deviant' when you put it that way though, not that I disagree, but...if you can see what I mean...it implies more polishing than perfecting...as a turn of phrasing...and on a number of levels...but by implication, it does change the overall meaning. Subtly mind, Chaucer-like, I suppose one might say.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by Omphale

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
It can also be said:

"for an optimist, time is just a tool for crafting his perfection.


Sounds a little 'deviant' when you put it that way though, not that I disagree, but...if you can see what I mean...it implies more polishing than perfecting...as a turn of phrasing...and on a number of levels...but by implication, it does change the overall meaning. Subtly mind, Chaucer-like, I suppose one might say.


To truly understand it's meaning, one must know that one is perfection in the process of perfecting itself.


So then comes the question, how does one perfect perfection?


Ribbit



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
To fear Time is to fear God, since both are One in the same. To fear God is to be stoopid, so to fear Time is to be stoopid as well.


Ribbit


u religious people have no conscious at all, why do u lecture about everything using all words when for u any is nothing but god which is nothing more

time for u is god, while time for any conscious is his existence for a time, like day and night u know hours and years u never know that? while every second and minute count when conscious is really existing

and time cannot b feared, it is also ur types that keep making objects living source of urselves, u create monsters justifications jumping from anywhere just to confirm all as any being god life

time only confirm that all objective is of lies, since objective is not constant, u may not fear literally but u have all the right reasons to fear that fact, when free sense is true which is most of all honest existing ones, this is the right reaction to lack of constancy, free sense is sane only bc objective concept is suppositely constant

not recognizing any of that is what could b considered stupid, but to me stupid do not exist, since any objective source is by definition intelligent freedom, it is simply about free wills and lies

and god as the concept of absolute powerful freedom possessing all existence reasons, is nothing to fear only for ur kind of self awareness that enjoy the idea of being through powerful others in projection of ur free will, but u r not everyone, while most of conscious dont ever mean anything but themselves matters and surely never anyother powers especially right ones that exist honestly and individually



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by Omphale

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
It can also be said:

"for an optimist, time is just a tool for crafting his perfection.


Sounds a little 'deviant' when you put it that way though, not that I disagree, but...if you can see what I mean...it implies more polishing than perfecting...as a turn of phrasing...and on a number of levels...but by implication, it does change the overall meaning. Subtly mind, Chaucer-like, I suppose one might say.


To truly understand it's meaning, one must know that one is perfection in the process of perfecting itself.


So then comes the question, how does one perfect perfection?


Ribbit

That's very good! Something the Buddha would applaud.




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