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Originally posted by tpg65
Originally posted by Violence
^Butt hurt.
You're never going to stop Pics or it didn't happen.
Maybe not , but we will politely remind people that such comments contribute absolutely nothing to this site .
Whoever comes up with the ignorant reply " Pics , or it didn't happen " , especially after the OP has stressed that for whatever reason , he couldn't obtain a pic , is nothing more than a TROLL
Originally posted by ommadawn
Hmmm... 14 pages of discussion about whether you need evidence or not.
Well, there's a great precident for this - it's called religion.
Or faith, belief, whatever.
I don't see a sign at the door saying Church of Above Top Secret, so please bring some evidence if you desire 'followers'.
Simple as that really.
Maybe I'm wrong, and this place really is a church, with poor marketing?
Now if folks started off each claim by sayin' "I BELIEVE I saw a UFO...." we'd be getting somewhere.
But they don't. They leave out the belief part, provide no evidence, and therefore confuse fact with personal belief.
Believe what you like or think you saw, but if you want more than blind followers you need something more. That's just the way it goes outside of the religious stuff.
Originally posted by iSHRED
if UFO's are swarming in by the masses over the swiss alps, and someone on here is writing about it... thats cool, it makes no difference whether i believe you or not.
but if you post a vid or a bunch of pics of a mass of UFO's, ill think its crazy and tell all my friends to check it out.
a picture is worth a 1000 words
a word is worth... well, 1 word
Originally posted by Visiting ESB
I've seen credible members ridiculed, mocked, called a liar for not having pictures of their UFO, ET, or paranormal experience. Such demand for photographic evidence is ignorant and displays intellectual dishonesty by the one demanding such evidence.
Originally posted by Ashertron
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People
^What he said.
I'm not sure a there's ever been a better example of a 'mountain made out of a molehill' than this thread, or a better example of people simply getting MAD 'cause that's all that has really happened over these 16 pages, people got MAD.
I got 2 words for most of you: Anger. Management.
To the rest, those RATIONAL people who understood and supported asking for evidence: *THUMBS UP* . You people are the TRUE spirit of "DENY IGNORANCE", you should be proud. NEVER stop asking for proof otherwise you're nothing more than a gullible fool.
PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. DEAL W/IT.edit on 8-12-2011 by Ashertron because: Added visual thumbs up
Originally posted by Visiting ESB
No molehill here. POIDH is the new "he's crazy -- he thinks little green men are here in flying saucers." It's not a joke. It prevents many from posting and it seems that you, and the poster before you, devote a lot of time trying to convince us it is only a joke...
Originally posted by Visiting ESB
Originally posted by Ashertron
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People
^What he said.
I'm not sure a there's ever been a better example of a 'mountain made out of a molehill' than this thread, or a better example of people simply getting MAD 'cause that's all that has really happened over these 16 pages, people got MAD.
I got 2 words for most of you: Anger. Management.
To the rest, those RATIONAL people who understood and supported asking for evidence: *THUMBS UP* . You people are the TRUE spirit of "DENY IGNORANCE", you should be proud. NEVER stop asking for proof otherwise you're nothing more than a gullible fool.
PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. DEAL W/IT.edit on 8-12-2011 by Ashertron because: Added visual thumbs up
No molehill here. POIDH is the new "he's crazy -- he thinks little green men are here in flying saucers." It's not a joke. It prevents many from posting and it seems that you, and the poster before you, devote a lot of time trying to convince us it is only a joke. If it were a joke, why are you defending the meaning of that joke? That tells me you feel it is more than humor -- it tells me you find validity in what it says, that unless there are photos IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. Anything that puts a damper on discussion of this issue -- as POIDH does -- embraces ignorance, it doesn't deny it and there is nothing "rational" about it.
Originally posted by overratedpatriotism
This childish argument goes on forever, but its the Hypocrisy of the argument that gets to me.
Person 1 "God created the universe."
Person 2 "Pics or it didn't happen."
Person 2 "The universe came into existence by itself without any outside forces acting upon it, and evolution led up to the world as you see it now."
Person 1 "I am not saying you are wrong, but pics or it didn't happen. Remember correlation does not imply causation."
And the cycle continues with any number of subjects.
edit on 8-12-2011 by overratedpatriotism because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Ashertron
Only problem is Cameras did not exist then so a picture wasn't possible, making both statements PURE speculation.
POIDH doesn't become a valid statement until about 7 years ago.
When there is a bloody camera on everything but the coffee maker then there is NO excuse for not having pics....unless you're Amish I guess...edit on 8-12-2011 by Ashertron because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by thepainweaver
Yeah op, I'm sure we'd be in a better place without skepticism. I mean, nobody EVER tells lies on the internet.
Originally posted by Ashertron
Originally posted by Visiting ESB
Originally posted by Ashertron
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People
^What he said.
I'm not sure a there's ever been a better example of a 'mountain made out of a molehill' than this thread, or a better example of people simply getting MAD 'cause that's all that has really happened over these 16 pages, people got MAD.
I got 2 words for most of you: Anger. Management.
To the rest, those RATIONAL people who understood and supported asking for evidence: *THUMBS UP* . You people are the TRUE spirit of "DENY IGNORANCE", you should be proud. NEVER stop asking for proof otherwise you're nothing more than a gullible fool.
PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. DEAL W/IT.edit on 8-12-2011 by Ashertron because: Added visual thumbs up
No molehill here. POIDH is the new "he's crazy -- he thinks little green men are here in flying saucers." It's not a joke. It prevents many from posting and it seems that you, and the poster before you, devote a lot of time trying to convince us it is only a joke. If it were a joke, why are you defending the meaning of that joke? That tells me you feel it is more than humor -- it tells me you find validity in what it says, that unless there are photos IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. Anything that puts a damper on discussion of this issue -- as POIDH does -- embraces ignorance, it doesn't deny it and there is nothing "rational" about it.
People who need said Anger Management - Exhibit A.
Look Jr. If liars and dis-info agents didn't exist then maybe POIDH might be inconsiderate but guess what? They do exist (and you are fooling yourself if you think they don't), and they exist in far greater numbers on a site like ATS so BEING VIGILANT (like POIDH) is absolutely necessary.
Yes photos can be faked BUT NOT NEARLY AS EASILY AS TEXT CAN LIE.
Just because you believe everything you read doesn't mean the rest of us have to.
Edit - Also, if word ever got out to a place like 4chan that the fools @ ATS believe whatever you write and do NOT request proof, and even criticize those who do, then you could expect a tsunami of REAL, PROFESSIONAL trolls. Most of you (the need Anger Management folks) , judging on how you've handled just a single sentence of ANCIENT trolling, would literally EXPLODE with angeredit on 8-12-2011 by Ashertron because: ^