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Originally posted by schuyler
Originally posted by Visiting ESB
BTW, for all you POIDH people -- I've witnessed over a dozen UFOs since 1999. Not a single one of those sightings were photographed. I didn't (and still don't) carry a camera and even my cell phone doesn't have a camera. Those events happened. Whether you choose to believe it or not, they happened. If you want to deny reality by denying the truth of those sightings, go ahead, but that just means you choose to persist in ignorance by denying EVERY story that deals with this subject.
And all we have is your story that you've seen a dozen "things" that you were unable to identify. Maybe you're not a very good observer. Maybe you are Mr. Upright Citizen, or maybe you are Ms. Doofus. We don't know you, and to suggest it is we who are ignorant when you haven't even given us a hint of what you saw is what is ridiculous.
At this level of explanation your stories about UFOs are FAR worse than Roxanne's--and SHE had pictures! Anyone here remember Roxanne? She posted movies of UFOs on YouTube for quite a long time. She would stand outside on her balcony every night and take pictures, "OOOOing" and "Awing" about how awesome they were. You could see the moving lights in her movies.
When someone got a shot in daylight what appeared? A hill opposite her apartment with a road going to the top. All she was seeing were cars driving up and down the hill with their headlights on. But just try to convince Roxanne she was seeing automobiles. Not in your life. Indeed, she said something like this:
"Those events happened. Whether you choose to believe it or not, they happened. If you want to deny reality by denying the truth of those sightings, go ahead, but that just means you choose to persist in ignorance by denying EVERY story that deals with this subject"
Then Roxanne removed all her videos and went off in a huff never to be seen again. Now it was kind of obvious that Roxanne wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, and she wasn't very happy when people pointed out her mistakes. But at least she had pics, and you don;t even have that. You saw a dozen UFOs? What does that statement even mean?
Taking your post at face value here (knowing you may have excplained your sightings in complete depth elsewhere) your story about seeing a dozen UFOs is completely useless. It lacks detail. There is no supporting information. So just where are we supposed to go with a story like this? It adds absolutely nothing to the genre. Nothing. And you DARE to be "angry" because someone asks for pics?
Here's what "Pics or it didn't happen" means. It's shorthand for:
Your story as presented is useless. Please do a better job of explaining what you saw. Please show us that you have the presence of mind to at least investigate your own sighting. Please provide as much context as you can. Please explain why your sighting should even be discussed, or why it is so compelling that you deem it necessary to tell us what you saw. How do you think your sighting fits into the overall pattern of UFOs as reported elsewhere? Have you thought about and dismissed such alternative explanations as airplanes, birds, lanterns, lampposts and the like? How does your sighting contribute to the "UFO community?" If there is anything about your personal background that might be relevant, please share that.
And please, please understand that if you report that you saw some lights in the sky, you are unlikely to be greeted as the Savior with the answer to UFOs, life, the universe, and everything. We will not treat you as a hero nor bow down to your feet. That you saw a light in the sky does not mean aliens are visiting earth from another planet or another dimension. That you saw a light in the sky does not raise your intelligence or mean that you have superior powers of observation. It does not make you a special person. And if that's all you've got, please consider not posting, otherwise people will say,
pics, or it didn't happen.
edit on 12/6/2011 by schuyler because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Visiting ESB
Us "photo or it didnt happen" people aren't saying anything like the long reaching ridiculous statements some of you are making.
We're saying that there are a lot of idiot people out there who will make up a story just to get attention.
So as a filter for the B.S. we say pics now or it didn't happen.
This is exactly the thing I meant by starting this thread. To conclude that an event did not happen unless you can show photographic evidence is outrageously ridiculous. Such conclusion shows that you've put no thought, no logic, no analysis in reaching that conclusion and that all that matters is a photo. If a photo were produced, you'd still say it didn't happen because no amount of evidence, testimonial, photographic, or even a chunk of an ET would suffice. You're not looking to filter BS -- you've already concluded that any story without pics is BS even before that story is told.
Originally posted by tpg65
Originally posted by Ashertron
>MFW when anyone calls the request for evidence (which is all POIDH is) "ignorant"
You have completely missed the point of ATS, please go fail somewhere else now.
/threadedit on 6-12-2011 by Ashertron because: broken image
Judging by the shear amount of support over the last 13 pages , I hardly think the thread has failed .
Whoever comes up with the ignorant reply " Pics , or it didn't happen " , especially after the OP has stressed that for whatever reason , he couldn't obtain a pic , is nothing more than a TROLL
edit on 29/05/2011 by tpg65 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Violence
You're never going to stop Pics or it didn't happen.