posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 12:51 AM
There has been a lot of dissonance on Religion. I see a wonderful thread posted on something beautiful, like for example a thread on Peace, and the
thread gets ruined because the religious people pull the Bible out and start quoting from it. Before you know it, they are all arguing and fighting
and getting mad at each other because they disagree so much on what each line means. Or people from different religious backgrounds argue and fight.
And there goes the "Peace", right out the _ Wars are fought over Religion.
I would not try to put anybody down for their religious beliefs. But, at the same time, I realize that if we ever truly want Peace, we have to get
beyond this religious arguing. We HAVE to. We have to find a way.
I'd like to present to you what the absolute majority of people who have had an NDE (Near Death Experience) have found out about Religion.
Heaven is not about religious beliefs, but about spiritual actions. It is not true, as some people believe, that we get to heaven by giving verbal
assent to belief in God. It is love, not religious doctrines, that creates spiritual growth. Religions are cultural institutions but love is
universal. Those religions which claim superiority over other religions or exclude people for various reasons, go against God's law to love others as
we love ourselves. Although religion, in itself, is not important to God, all religions are necessary because there are people who need what they
teach. For this reason, all religions are precious in the sight of God. All religions refer to the same God. All religions are different ways of
trying to describe the same God. After death, if you insist upon searching for an old man on a throne as God, you will do this for awhile until you
get the idea that you are following an illusion.
Below is a quote from Mellen-Thomas Benedict on Religion. His full NDE is presented
God does not care which religion is best. God does not care what religion people practice. They are all a blooming facet of the whole. All
religions refer to the same God.
Next we have a quote by Dr. Liz Dale. She researches homosexuality and the NDE. Her findings can be located
One man who had a near-death experience realized that the "God" of his religious background wasn't anything like the reality. He learned that
it doesn't matter if people call him God, Allah, Great Spirit or whatever, he is one and the same.
This is the finding of Nora Spurgin. She is an NDE researcher and her entire findings are very well presented
Dr. PMH Atwater
Everyone, religious or not, believing in God or not, transitions to the spirit world as part of the natural process of life. Just as one does not
need to be religious to live in the physical world, one does not need to profess a particular faith to live in the spirit world.
God is not dependent on our belief, for our belief or disbelief in God does not affect God - only us.
God is not a member of any church or religion. It is the churches and the religions that are members within the vastness and the glory that is
God. There is no one religion just as there is no chosen people or person, nor any single way of regarding what cannot be fully comprehended. We are
all sons of God in the sense that we are all souls of God's creation, without gender, without form, without nationality, complete and whole and
perfect as we explore the never-endingness of God's wonderment.
God cares little about our religious affiliation or church membership. Love is not limited to any one religion or even religion at all. Religions
are cultural institutions but love is universal.
How are we saved? By unselfish love. When we love unselfishly, our vibrations are so high that the only place we'll fit into is heaven. There is
no other place we can go if we want to. This is divine justice because it gives all the people who ever lived, as well as all the higher animals who
know right from wrong, an equal chance to eventually attain internal harmony which will fit them into some kind of heaven - regardless of their
intelligence, education, indoctrination, ignorance, wealth or poverty.
This quote by Betty Eadie
attempts to point out an important purpose that Religions can
Religion is used as a stepping stone to further knowledge. As an individual raises his level of understanding about God and his own eternal
progress, he might feel discontented with the teachings of his present church and seek a different philosophy or religion to fill that void. When this
occurs he has reached another level of understanding and will long for further truth and knowledge, and for another opportunity to grow. And at every
step of the way, these new opportunities to learn will be given.
Finally, there are many examples given of the harm that can be done by Religion. Here is a quote by
Many people, when they come to the astral world, experience a great deal of turmoil and distress because they have been too positive and too
dogmatic in their earthly lives and have tried to impose that dogmatism on other people. I think you can find, if you will think about it and look
back at your own lives, that there are times when you wish you hadn't been so forceful in persuading someone to do something. When one does this he
is cutting across a divinely given attribute of each person, which is free will.
I sincerely hope this thread is looked at, as was intended, as a piece for peace - and does not turn into an exercise in mud-slinging.