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Originally posted by Furbs
What are you talking about? Are you capable of following a rational conversation? You said this was about nationalism. You said you saw nationalism. So, if this is about nationalism, and you saw nationalism from the simple label "African-American", I was curious as to what YOU thought on the subject.
But I can see now that you are just backed into a corner now, so I will drop it.
Indigenous Americans are the line of people here before 1492.
And that would be... ? Come on now, you can come right out and say it - I know you can!
I do not know what you are getting at.
I know they didn't post on this forum identifying themselves as African-American, THE AUTHOR OF THE POST DID. It's like you just do not understand logical thought.. I am going to end this, as it isn't going to go anywhere.
Originally posted by KJV1611
While I was in the USAF this conversation actually came up. It was at a Christmas party and a few of the "players" had some drinks and were "loosening" up so to say. All the enlisted men seemed to agree that attacking their own country men would never happen. The officers however seemed to not care either way and said orders are orders. (Public education via college no doubt...)
But what scared me the most was the response of the two black airmen and a few of the "Mexican" looking airmen. They came right out and said they would happily kill whoever stood against the military and their paychecks....... Now I am not racist, but I truly believe this was the point of affirmative action in the military, as well as making rank (military men know what I am talking about all too well!)
You see, AMERICANS would probably not kill their own fellow Americans.......but African-americans, and Mexican/Latino Americans would kill white Americans since they are not their own people...........think about it. (Ever wonder why there are so many different race designators in order to racially divide the UNITED States of America?)
Want proof? Walk down Oakland, Miami, the Bronx, Atlanta, or any other racially fueled domestic war zones at ANY time of day and you will get your proof.
Once again, I am not racist, and I have tons more examples. The noose is tightening on America.
Originally posted by KJV1611
While I was in the USAF this conversation actually came up. It was at a Christmas party and a few of the "players" had some drinks and were "loosening" up so to say. All the enlisted men seemed to agree that attacking their own country men would never happen. The officers however seemed to not care either way and said orders are orders. (Public education via college no doubt...)
But what scared me the most was the response of the two black airmen and a few of the "Mexican" looking airmen. They came right out and said they would happily kill whoever stood against the military and their paychecks....... Now I am not racist, but I truly believe this was the point of affirmative action in the military, as well as making rank (military men know what I am talking about all too well!)
You see, AMERICANS would probably not kill their own fellow Americans.......but African-americans, and Mexican/Latino Americans would kill white Americans since they are not their own people...........think about it. (Ever wonder why there are so many different race designators in order to racially divide the UNITED States of America?)
Want proof? Walk down Oakland, Miami, the Bronx, Atlanta, or any other racially fueled domestic war zones at ANY time of day and you will get your proof.
Once again, I am not racist, and I have tons more examples. The noose is tightening on America.
Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by nenothtu
I hope you are right, but when you pit a man with a sword against a woman with a gun.............the gun will win everytime if she does not hesitate to use it quickly and accurately.
We now have drones, rocket launchers that can launch miles away and take out multiple houses.
There may even be tech we are not aware of.
Now, most technology is run by computer...............if we can take out the " computer system", destroy the technology, the playing field would be more level - a honorable war, man against man.
But why can't everyone just play nicely..............why do some feel they have to have unlimited power and money?
My life has been one exciting ride since orphaned at 9. I would like just a few remaining years left of peace and quiet.
Watch China, I don't think the Middle East is what we have to fear. The sleeping dragon has awaken.
By tracking, like in chipping animals - it's not the ground trackers you have to worry about - it's the damn satellites.
Anyway, my dog would be the last person I would forsake - I trust her more than any human. If it's a computer chip, perhaps a really good magnet would mess the tracking device within her or if we had a EMP.
(She came with the microchip as a rescue dog).
I'm not going to a FEMA Camp.
And sadly enough, I no longer trust our government.
Originally posted by kerazeesicko
I find it absolutely hilarious when people attempt to be the internet tough guy and say things like "let them try that with me"...etc... You would be dealing with trained military personal and not target dummies...these guys won't be playing war like you and your friends do on the weekend.
They would be well trained..they would know their land , which would make them twice as dangerous to you. You think that just because you have a few guns and have learned to use them that you would be any match for a well trained military. You think that because you and your pals play war during the weekend that it would prepare you for the real thing that you would be ready?
If the military was ordered to and followed those orders..they would be successful in doing so...sure a few soldiers may get killed by a couple lucky SOB's but the fact remains that a lot of these internet tough guys would be slaughtered.
So I say continue to talk the talk..but I doubt you would be able to walk the walk.
Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by kerazeesicko
Anyone researching modern weapons and warfare knows that now days pitting even armed civilians against a trained army would be a one sided slaughter.
Originally posted by DaveWx3
reply to post by jude11
I have been out of the USMC for 5months, I can assure you that the majority of men I served with would not follow orders to police citizens who are not doing anything wrong.
I do believe there would be some though. I did not trust everyone, and I believe they would be pressured into it with intimidation from the higher ranks.
The question has so many different scenarios though so I can only give a general reply.
Originally posted by Algernonsmouse
Arent people in the military also you know...people?
A few of the things I read here
"Liberals are mentally ill and should all be locked up."
"Anyone who voted for Obama should be hung for treason."
You know what I mean and I am sure it goes both ways. I find it hard to believe no one in the military feels any of these things. Is there something that makes them immune to this kind of political hatred? I am certain my neighbor or my brother would refuse to round me up when ordered but god forbid I were to slap an Obama bumper sticker on my car and drive a mile down the road here in the reddest district in NY.
Originally posted by locololo
reply to post by jude11
Well, I intend to join the army soon, but i guess if the situation required me to do that, i would do it to my best. As for the family part, my family consists of trained soldiers and very dangerous people. It would take an army to take them down if they were intent on fighting.
Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by saltdog
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It is pretty easy to figure out who the fakes are they start by talking about how Bad a## they are. Most of the time. I am sure you know the one I am refering to.
Keep the faith
Originally posted by starwarsisreal
reply to post by DaveWx3
But foreign troops and mercenaries like blackwater would