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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 06:41 PM
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This is really some kind of James Bond Mission Impossible stuff. I don't know if any of you have seen these videos but at first I thought this guy was insane especially when he was talking about Susan Smith and Casey Anthony but what this user DallasGoldBug has to say about some* of the events in the OWS movement is just shocking. Fast forward to about 14:50 in this video...





Is that supporter really signaling pepper spray? I'm sorry if this has already been discussed. I really don't see some of the way in which DGB shows some of these actors to be the same people but the signals that he has found intrigue me.




posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 06:54 PM
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I got into a heated debate with Dallasgoldbug.

I'm sure I was not the first.

I have to say, SOME of his findings are very compelling. And in fact I believe in his message.

I am glad that he is attempting to uncover something possibly true - but the way he goes about it discredits this theory in a lot of ways.

I mean, the guy tries to say Bill Cooper is Jordan Maxwell. That is just plain ridiculous.

Yet at the same time I cannot deny his findings on the Gifford's case. I have to side with him on this. None of the first responding emergency crew had blood on their hands in the provided "photo op" picture of them rushing her away on gurney.
Also the hero, I do not know his name, but the big guy in the picture. He supposedly compressed her head wound. I have seen severe head wounds. I know how much blood there is. This man in the picture did not have any blood on him, nor his hands. Impossible I say.



---- Disclaimer Aside ----

Brad Pitt was recently caught with a bunch of live ammunition. When I say a bunch - I mean enough to arm a small army of people - This occurred on the set of the new movie World War Z. There was a thread on this recently, definitely worth digging for as some folks found some strange connections between Matt Damon and Brad Pitt's involvement in some sort of shady corporation.

So yes. I gotta say - as crazy as this guy is - he has uncovered truth regarding payed actors being used for key propaganda pieces.

I don't trust the media like I don't trust the fangs of a cobra.
No sir I don't.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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Wow interesting!
I wonder what other members will say.
Good find.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by ThinkingCap
I got into a heated debate with Dallasgoldbug.

I'm sure I was not the first.

I have to say, SOME of his findings are very compelling. And in fact I believe in his message.

I am glad that he is attempting to uncover something possibly true - but the way he goes about it discredits this theory in a lot of ways.

I mean, the guy tries to say Bill Cooper is Jordan Maxwell. That is just plain ridiculous.



I agree. The first video that I saw by DGB was about some woman named Lisa Filthian...what he had to say about her seemed so stupid at first. I thought to myself what if these video series were sort of an social experiment on how easy it is to spread ideas of a conspiracy type nature through the internet but some of his findings are simply dead on.

Edit to Add: He Just said Lady Gaga was Jon Bennet Ramsey...thats just ridiculous.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:24 PM
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That's an interesting comment. I was leaning toward agreeing with ThinkingCap, and still do to a great extent.

But...

There is a theory of disinformation whereby the perpetrators mix real information in with the dis- and mis-information in a way so as to taint it all so that it's impossible to say what's true and what's not--if you see where I'm going. This looks like a disinformation campaign.

What the point of such an exercise would be--well, I could only surmise. But why would someone who would go to the trouble to make all these connections and put together these videos then taint them by offering connections that are clearly absurd mixed in with the real....? This is all very confusing....
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 10:00 PM
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I just got through looking at this video I can't believe it!!!
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 11:44 PM
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i like it when the news readers go on those game shows or do the christmas specials as if they are special because they read out what someone is making them read out.

its amazing how little faith the big execs of these companies have in keeping the same people doing the talking as if their ratings would slow and cause them to go out of business or something.
theyre more scared then we are!
"when you aint got nothin, you got nothin to lose"



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 12:17 AM
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I admit, it is pretty hard to wrap your head around some of the claims, and trying to keep up with some of the 'evidence'. He moves fast, and he goes from one accusation to the next.

I was ready to write most of this off with it just being more run-of-the-mill vlogger madness..... then I saw the "signals" evidence, and I have to say... I'm a bit disturbed. She signaled for the spray, there is absolutely no denying it. It is 100% clear. I've been having my suspicions for a while now, about how "scandals" all seem so fake, and setup, everything is trashy and almost comical.

I do not want to go down this rabbit hole.
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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 01:38 AM
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Alright, this is interesting in a way.
I'm not talking about comparing people with their ears tho.
Even if theres some good matches the author is reaching in a way i called short term vision.
You know, like someone who is obsessed by a particular problem, like they put their animals rights goggles and cannot see the bigger (long) picture of human right abused or simply problems that are closer to them like family problems. They are so obsessed, they stop using their critical thinking for some reasons, frustration could be one of those. btw i love animals and ppl, it was just an example.

Now the interesting part.
Remember what Deepthroat said to Fox? Well, i think he was right.
Trust no one. And i believe it is even more on point in the UFO, Disclosure area.

The part in the video2a where i think it was compelling, is the fake police brawl. In fact theres two but the one RT cut the beginning i screamed BUSTED, BUSTED BUSTED BUSTED BUSTED, it took me 3-4 months too understand the canadian connection but Adbuster is now Adbusted.

Just to clear things up, when the police is being used, like when we saw the three kids acknowledging with the policeman and the guy recording the video is exactly how propaganda works. The exact same way News agency uses us. Alot of this MO as been used in the middle east this late spings, pregnant woman or the raped one, they were a couple of weird story in hospitals also.
Folks, the actors in News reports are very common if not all over the place. I dont know why exactly they are taking so much care to confuse us but if you want an insight look for Sigmund Freuds cousin, the rich one,



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 02:28 AM
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Originally posted by eagleeye2
Alright, this is interesting in a way.
I'm not talking about comparing people with their ears tho.
Even if theres some good matches the author is reaching in a way i called short term vision.
You know, like someone who is obsessed by a particular problem

Yea, I would agree with you there. He blows himself out of the water with some of the comparisons, he reaches too much, and he should stick to the ones that are well-grounded. Some of them are compelling to say the very least.


The part in the video2a where i think it was compelling, is the fake police brawl. In fact theres two but the one RT cut the beginning i screamed BUSTED, BUSTED BUSTED BUSTED BUSTED

The brawl and the pepper spray incident, they are completely obvious. Especially the brawl, because you have a reaction with both the "kid" and the officer in front of him.

Just to clear things up, when the police is being used, like when we saw the three kids acknowledging with the policeman and the guy recording the video is exactly how propaganda works.

The kid motions for the camera to roll, he basically gives the nod to the "cop", cop looks around to his buddies, and bam... action. That's what it looks like, and when taken into that perspective, it can't be viewed any other way. I want to believe otherwise, that it's just "crazy", but... it's there, isn't it?



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 04:39 AM
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This is what George Clooney has been doing, putting a network of spy satellites in the Sudan. It is good that he is trying to help people, but it also could seem like he is sort of a spy, with the spy satellites and such, or maybe this is his new hobby.

George Clooney's Satellites Build a Case Against an Alleged War Criminal

Time.com
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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 06:52 AM
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I'm surprised this thread hasn't had more exposure.

Look these are celebrities without make up, just without make up and look how they change.
Especially with a different camera angle.
Now these people you're used to seeing on TV all the time or magazines, whatever.
The people in the OP video are not people who we're used to seeing every day.

Now, if this is true then it's a very elaborate conspiracy. It's not some kids who are joking about with us.
These would be the powers that be themselves.
And they will use their funds to the best they can, which means if they use actors they're going to use make up that you only see in Hollywood.

Take Robert De Niro in Frankenstein, did he look the same as he did in Goodfellas?
I don't think so.

Celebrity without make up



C'mon Ats where are yaaaa?
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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 08:30 AM
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I guess some people will believe what they want to see, but I really think this guy who made the video is stretching it a little with some of his comparisons. He's already got an agenda and using all these pics to fit his agenda, he is not coming from an objective view.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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People can get a few things wrong.
We're all human.
But it's clear isn't it some of them are real.
I could go back through your 5 thousand posts and probably find something that you posted which you thought was real and turned out to be fake.

Should I discard your comment now due to that logic?

Should I not believe a word that you post if I did find out something on you?

While I also think some of it requires a lot of imagination, don't you watch movies?

We're talking about the powers that be here. They'll have more money than Hollywood itself or did you think they're using cheap kiddies make up bought in a box with plastacine?

Obviously not.

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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 11:31 AM
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The Giffors thing is mind boggling.
It's hard to deny that this is a staged event.
I have been wondering about the other stuff, some of it is too much. But maybe he has a reason to go to far.
Maybe he HAS to look a little crazy.
Rayellen Allen of RMN who was married to the number 3 man in the CIA has claimed that Gunther told her that to survive she has to look crazy if she is going to tell the truth.
tptw/b will do one of 2 things to discredit you.
They will make you look crazy or criminal as in planting evidence that you are a into child porn or a moleter or if you cannot be discredited you will be suicided.
She chose the previous.
It allows her to tell truth to those that understand and yet when you here she claims she has been to mars, lol, the deal is done, she gets to live.
But is that what this guy does? Does he throw some crazy out there with the rest?
This guy has really got me thinking about what was starnge about 9-11 and the gulf of mexico events.
In the 9-11 footage we have the nose of the plane exiting the building, wow!
There is alot that makes it look staged and the actors were there to talk to the cameras. Yeah, a conspiracy.
But the GOM thing really is strange.
No tv footage allowed. The live underwater footage was proven to be on a loop.
And it was claimed that there were tankers at refineries that were being filled that were heading to the gulf....why?
Can anyone prove that there was a leek? Were the tankers sent there to dump oil into the gulf and corexit added to magnify the spill? The fruits of the events I believe are what is telling.

Man I am starting to believe that NOTHING on tv can be trusted.
Add to this the weirdness about the urgency to get everyone to go digital a few years back even to the point they would give away the boxes for everyone to make the change destroying the analog transmissions.
Isn't this what the definition of majic is? To get the masses all to think in a collective way?
Wouldn't this just make all the truth tellers look crazy to the rest of the populace? If so it would not matter that a few knew the truth, they would just be dealt with in due time since the large majority will just look at them as nuts.
This is such a deep rabbit hole and the giffords thing is mind boggling to me.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 12:12 PM
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George Clooney's Satellites Build a Case Against an Alleged War Criminal


MIND=BLOWN...the illuminati picture gets bigger and bigger...



Police seize weapons from Brad Pitt film


each firearm had been converted to restrict its use to blank ammunition [...].
BUT
According to the video, some weapons could be re-converted to use live ammunition by removing a single screw.

www.reuters.com...
static.guim.co.uk...
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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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This is huge and I've been played. Hook, line, sinker... Thanks for posting. I haven't seen it on the board so I think you are the first to bring this. I comment just to not lose this thread but the question I have right now is, how can actors get access to (restricted?) police uniforms and accessories? Who is helping these people?

The only case I really knew and suspected to be false was the Caycee baby thing. Oh and the Gifford shooting, but from a different youtube source.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Cosma
I'm surprised this thread hasn't had more exposure.


Maybe I should have titled the thread OWS employs actors to stage certain "events".


Originally posted by SyphonX

The brawl and the pepper spray incident, they are completely obvious. Especially the brawl, because you have a reaction with both the "kid" and the officer in front of him.


I was looking for an alternative explanation for the brawl but I could not think of one. However after looking at the video of the pepper spray incident I can find some logical explanations.
1. She is telling a photographer to snap the picture or roll cameras to document the police brutality.
2. She is letting a friend across the street know that the police are getting violent so its time to leave.
3. This is something like improv everywhere and this is the scene in which the police attack protesters...




More to come...



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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Okay I've been looking at this guys comparisons and I don't see how you can decide a person is the same by looking at their ears...


But many of the other comparisons deserve analysis.


Are we witnessing spy technology being used?
Look at the hair on the guy on the right...doesn't it look a bit strange?
And this picture...

And don't even get me started on the Giffords Joy connection which I will talk about later.
Funny I just can't follow him on the south park connections and various black spy comparisons simply because the complexion is hard to (not impossible) mess with.
Interesting how he talks about people giving him dirty looks and flipping him off...could just be out of aggravation of being followed or...these people really could be an elite group of spies.


If I had imagination I would say the hair has been cut to fit the character with aging make up as a disguise.

More to come.

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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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So nobody has anything to say about this? Well I will be putting out a video that I think further ties Gabby Giffords to Rebecca Joy. I am going to save most of my comments for another thread perhaps...but I think he loses everyone when he further infers Rebecca Joy is another actress. Thats just not the case...

More to come





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