posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Domo1
Do we really need separate bathrooms for gay men, lesbians, trangendered men, transgendered women, gender neutral people, straight men, straight
women, and furries? No.
If bathrooms hadn't been entirely centred around gender in the first place this wouldn't have happened I don't think.
And if people didn't look at each other's pants areas whilst peeing, then again we wouldn't have a problem. The problem is fear. People fear a person
that has abnormal genitals, and then there's the understanding of gender in the first place. It's not a nice feeling to know that you're not entirely
welcome in either bathroom, and that a basic human function is denied to you in a public place. Going to a public toilet literally risks physical
So options are:
1. Stop fearing people's pants areas so they can be open about it.
2. Construct a new area to prevent violence that happens.
3. Ban these people (including biological intersex) out of existence.
This would also resolve the fear of being 'seduced' by a person who 'isn't what they say they are' for the most part if we chose option number 1.
Gender people aren't in control of either of these options, the ordinary majority is.
Same goes for language frankly. 'Intersex' is not listed as a gender. This essentially removes some people's ability to be honest. It's not nice to
have to say ... 'I'm a man but ...' everytime you have to address your own gender. So how I see it ... the desired situation from the majority is
'conform to our standards, and we will accuse of lying or misleading whenever it comes up'. I'm putting words in people's mouths but its no different
from a person on the other side of the debate claiming that people want control of language, push people around, or special attention.
If gender persons could live normal unconflicted lives, a lot of these 'special' requests would go away. It's smoke and fire. Special toilets and
language are a request for perosnal saftey more than anything.
And I appreciate when people are nice in these types of threads too ... Most of the time I'm just trying to level the playing field. I don't mind
people disagreeing with me from an informed position ... but it's difficult not to face palm when people just make things up on both sides.
edit on 4-12-2011 by Pinke because: (no reason given)