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"Genderqueer" individual "doesn't identify as male or female"; demands special recognition

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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 06:37 PM
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I'm probably going to catch hell from the politically correct among you, but here it goes.

This is an article from a UCLA student publication about a "genderqueer" individual who wishes not to be categorized as either male or female. An excerpt:


Editor's note:
Throughout this article, Ryth Mendez is referred to by the gender pronouns “they” or “their.” Mendez, who is genderqueer and does not identify as only male or female, prefers these pronouns to “he” or “she." For Mendez, “they” encompasses multiple genders.


Ryth Mendez doesn’t identify as just male or just female.

Mendez prefers “they” instead of gender pronouns, and goes by “Ryth” instead of “Ruth,” their birth name, to discourage people from gendering them right away.

Mendez is genderqueer, which the fifth-year Asian American studies student defines for themself as embodying all genders.

Mendez identifies as part of the transgender community, though Mendez doesn’t feel that they were assigned the wrong gender at birth, or want to use surgery and hormones to pass as a certain gender.

“I can’t completely be defined as male or female,” Mendez said. “I feel like it’s not enough for me.”


Source:
www.dailybruin.com...


Let me tell you why this particular case bothers me.

Mangling of the English language: Just look at that writing style. Not only is the language warped and ugly, it is asking the majority to contort its very language and thought patterns at the most basic level to accommodate political needs. If you haven't brushed up on your Orwell recently I suggest you refresh your understanding of "Newspeak"

Demand for special treatment: This person wants not only to control your language; "they" are essentially calling for special bathrooms as well as increased survalience for protection against "hate crimes." (When did hate become a crime, by the way? I thought hate is an emotion. While I see hate as a great negative, I'm not in favor of litigating human emotions.). Consider the owing passage from this article:


Mendez prefers private or gender-neutral bathrooms, but they can be difficult to find on campus. Mendez said they fear a hate crime happening in a bathroom because of lack of surveillance.


Demand for attention and self-gratification: This person is demanding special recognition for his/her victimhood. The article is written to celebrate the alleged heroism of this person, supposedly just for "being different". They essentially want special recognition for who they are rather than for something they have achieved. The equivalent of a special star on the forehead "just for showing up." It makes a mockery of the efforts of real humans who overcome great hardship all over the globe and never get an special recognition for their struggles.

Feelings and political dogma over biological reality: This person was born either male or female. But their feelings have become more important than facts, so no doubt to suggest that this person is, in fact, one or the other would be taken as the most blasphemous crime against politically correct cannon law. Reality takes a back seat to political correctness. It reminds me of "Lysenkoism" under the Soviet Union: When natural laws of planting and harvest were seen as "un-socialist" because natural selection involved too much cold, hard competition, the Soviets demanded that science bend to the needs of poltics and emphasize cooperation, sharing, and Soviet values. The result was a 100% failure and led to serious crop shortages wherever it was implemented.


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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 06:47 PM
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If you're born with a p3nor you are a man. If you are born with a vagina you're a woman. I am getting so sick of our society being so permissive of people's ridiculous attempts to garner attention. I don't care if you want to turn yourself into the opposite sex because you feel like you were born with the wrong parts, that's fine. Just stop forcing forcing everyone else to be PC all the time.

Wait for it... within a year someone is going to file a lawsuit because they feel that they are actually a cat on the inside, and don't want to be labeled human. Actually hell I might do it just to make a point.
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One more thing, and yes, I mad. Isn't 'genderqueer' insulting to homosexuals? We are getting so PC we can't even be PC.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:00 PM
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The use of the word 'they' makes me think of a person with multiple personalities or disassociative identity disorder (DID). Maybe this person has this mental affliction. Considering entertainers such as Beyonce and others who have acknowledged that they have alters, maybe this is warming people up to the idea of many people in one. It's not unusual for a woman to have a male alter and vice versa.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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Penis = male
Veejayjay = female
Both = hermaphrodite
Neither = Angel
Hack off one and sew on the other = transgender

Anything else is just PC BS. Even 'transgender' pushed the boundaries.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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queer [kweer] adjective, -er, -est, verb, noun

adjective
1. strange or odd from a conventional viewpoint; unusually different; singular: a queer notion of justice
2. of a questionable nature or character; suspicious; shady: Something queer about the language of the prospectus kept investors away.
3. not feeling physically right or well; giddy, faint, or qualmish: to feel queer.
4. mentally unbalanced or deranged.
5. Slang: Disparaging and Offensive .
a. homosexual.
b. effeminate; unmanly.
6.Slang. bad, worthless, or counterfeit.

verb (used with object)
7. to spoil; ruin.
8. to put (a person) in a hopeless or disadvantageous situation as to success, favor, etc.
9. to jeopardize.

noun
10.Slang: Disparaging and Offensive . a homosexual, especially a male homosexual.
11.Slang . counterfeit money.

Idiom
12.queer the pitch, British Informal . to spoil the chances of success.

Synonyms
1. unconventional, curious, freakish, eccentric, weird. See strange.

Antonyms
1. ordinary.


Dictionary.com

The word "queer" has more than one definition and use.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:16 PM
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Wait for it... within a year someone is going to file a lawsuit because they feel that they are actually a cat on the inside, and don't want to be labeled human. Actually hell I might do it just to make a point.


They're already here, LOL



And don't even start on the whole 'Furry' thing....



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:17 PM
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The word "queer" has more than one definition and use.


So does 'faggot'. Thanks for explaining that to us though!

My point here is that I can see genderqueer being insulting to homosexuals even though it can have a different meaning. Like genderretard.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1
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So does 'faggot'. Thanks for explaining that to us though!


You're very welcome. Happy to oblige



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:22 PM
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I wish they would abolish the term "hate crime".
A crime is a crime. If I choose to beat someone because I don't like them, it's simply a crime of violence.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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Yup,

Fag = Cigarette
Faggot = Pork meatball

As for the OP, although hermaphrodite means born with both male and female parts, I'm sure aesexual would work would it not?


Asexuality (sometimes referred to as nonsexuality), in its broadest sense, is the lack of sexual attraction and, in some cases, the lack of interest in sex. Sometimes, it is considered a lack of a sexual orientation. One commonly cited study placed the prevalence of asexuality at 1%.

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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:25 PM
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On that note;

Why is it considered normal, or is accepted that a "transgender" man can try to 'trick' or 'seduce' a heterosexual man. Either by exploiting an inebriated man, or through calculated deceit. Basically the heterosexual man is completely non-compliant and did not consent to have relations with the "transgender", so when they find out.. naturally they become upset.

Somehow, the "upset man" is in the wrong, or he is at fault, but the very strange, deceptive behavior from the 'transgender' is accepted. Then it becomes perfectly acceptable to mock the heterosexual and make fun of him, question his sexuality, humiliate him. It's now a societal norm. Yet if you "mock" homosexuality or question their sexuality, you are deemed an unforgivable monster. Ignorant, archaic, bigoted, etc.

I am for equal rights, but PC and perversion of established laws, and 'common sense' has become a problem.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:27 PM
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I wouldn't think that it is legal. It would be the same as telling you I'm a doctor and giving you a prostate exam.
Psst... I'm not a doctor.
Fraud is fraud.
Should you choose to react violently, this would be your misstep

Edit to Add: The grey area comes in when a person has had the surgeries and hormones and is essentially of the opposite sex than they were born. In this case, it wouldn't be fraud. I'd recommend people get to know who they're attracted to first prior sleeping with them. In a perfect world, everyone who has changed their sex should reveal this to a potential sexual partner, but we don't live in a perfect world.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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I am for equal rights, but PC and perversion of established laws, and 'common sense' has become a problem.


Same with me, well said.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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It is illegal? I've never heard of such a thing, I guess it would depend on the circumstance.

It's not comparable to fraud, or malpractice, because a doctor swears an oath, is bound by law to basically protect humanity's health. It's the same as impersonating a police officer, or government worker really. These are serious crimes.

I've never heard of it being a crime, what I was talking about.

It's just strange. You can go to any "adult webcam" service (their banner ads/pop-ups are everywhere) and with a keen eye, you will notice a lot of these 'women' are actually transgender men. This is such a bizarre world.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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The common term for somebody who doesn't identify as either fully male or fully female is intergendered if I'm not mistaken.

Such a situation has come about for many people, and it happens for them biologically, as in they're like that from birth.

It's rare, but it does occur. Why does this person deserve a cookie more than any of the others?


Somebody needs to get smacked and told to stop clamoring for the spotlight.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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If you got a good attorney, s/he could successfully argue that your "partner" for the night was misrepresenting him/herself causing you mental suffering and anguish.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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It's just strange. You can go to any "adult webcam" service (their banner ads/pop-ups are everywhere) and with a keen eye, you will notice a lot of these 'women' are actually transgender men. This is such a bizarre world.


First of all, LOL. Secondly I don't think it's illegal either. In the eyes of the law a transgender is now a woman or a man legally.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:38 PM
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The bathroom thing is bothering me the most. This is also why I'm leaning more towards the DID angle.
Most transexuals are very gender specific. The fact that this person feels the need to use a gender neutral restroom is very telling.
Also, I live in a small town and I've never seen many places with gender neutral bathrooms except in the malls where they have family restrooms. I'd always be walking around with my legs crossed or rarely going out.

Edit to Add:
This quote at the bottom of the Op's external text is very telling of my theory:


“I can’t completely be defined as male or female,” Mendez said. “I feel like it’s not enough for me.”


I believe this person is most definitely suffering from DID. He or she obviously feels very torn inside. The person is left to identify with the transexual community because this is the closest nitch where someone with an identity disorder would fit in. Most transexuals do feel that they were born in the wrong body, but this person states that this isn't the issue here. Some people are cross dressers and are heterosexual. This person is much deeper than simply a physical manifestation of male or female. It's as if there is a war inside the person's head.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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I know, I'm just saying, viewing it from a cultural standpoint, it is truly bizarre.

Now it's "intergendered".

To reiterate the original discussion;

Transgender, intergender, transexual, asexual?, genderqueer, transvestite (outdated). This is without going into the 'urban terms', or what would be considered derogatory terms. It blurs the line, and terminology due to the fact it's a question of either: Is it sexuality based, or biological, or both?



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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I dont even understand why people post these stories. They dont want to discuss or learn. They just want to scream I hate____ and have people agree.

You can't change a few pronouns but someone is expected to not be who they are to accomadate you. And honestly there would be no need to be in anyone's face if difference was just accepted. Threads like this are why people who are different have to go "public". Ignorance doesn't just magically go away it has to be cast light on.



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