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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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I could provide one, but I am on a work computer so a lot of stuff is blocked. All in all though its really not that big of a deal to me if you are right or if I am. It was so long ago when I read the Meier stuff so I would have to dig around, and its possible what you said is what I heard. It's been awhile man. All in all this is a old and played out to me. Also I'm not here to make anyone upset so yeah..

Also A10 I enjoy reading what you post so don't think I am "hating" on you or anything like that. I was just asking a simple question. Didn't think it would go this long about the case. We kind of got off subject


-SAP-
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by SloAnPainful
I could provide one, but I am on a work computer so a lot of stuff is blocked.

If you wasn't on a computer that have no Internet, you would NOT be able to post in forums like these, so NO, your computer is NOT blocked. And since you're able to post in forums like these you are also able to provide source/links. So obviously you don't WANT to provide any links. So that means you can NOT be taken seriously...


All in all though its really not that big of a deal to me if you are right or if I am.

You have proven that you are NOT right, so there is NO reason to take you seriously...


It was so long ago when I read the Meier stuff so I would have to dig around, and its possible what you said is what I heard.

Oh, so now you suddenly ADMIT that what i say / present is what you heard? I tell you what, you're wasting your time with your false accusations against Billy Meier, as your previously posted.
So thanks for ADMITTING that your accusations against Billy are WRONG...



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Looks like everyone's stuck with which part of the stories to believe and which not. Some believe aliens have visited and there are indeed reptilians, Pleideans, (name any star and put -eans as a suffix), others believe that there are ET visits but not as far fetched as any star-named civilizations, for third everyone is a liar and it is all a coverup of technology.

This discussion is indeed a waste of time. And even if you encountered and even recorded an alien being walking or passing through, no one would believe you (I'm not saying any of all these crappy videos of walking greys are true).

I'm saying that this is just cast of mind, to doubt things that sound too bogus to you..
I blame movies on that, with their riduculousness they make people think if any of that were true, to be too much of a fiction, if not alien movies that ridicule the topic of aliens, the adjustment of people woulnd't be 'Oh look at that nutsjob he believes in things that are only on movies'



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by Anunaki10

Originally posted by SloAnPainful
I could provide one, but I am on a work computer so a lot of stuff is blocked.

If you wasn't on a computer that have no Internet, you would NOT be able to post in forums like these, so NO, your computer is NOT blocked. And since you're able to post in forums like these you are also able to provide source/links. So obviously you don't WANT to provide any links. So that means you can NOT be taken seriously...


All in all though its really not that big of a deal to me if you are right or if I am.

You have proven that you are NOT right, so there is NO reason to take you seriously...


It was so long ago when I read the Meier stuff so I would have to dig around, and its possible what you said is what I heard.

Oh, so now you suddenly ADMIT that what i say / present is what you heard? I tell you what, you're wasting your time with your false accusations against Billy Meier, as your previously posted.
So thanks for ADMITTING that your accusations against Billy are WRONG...


Lol I said its possible that what you said could have been what I heard and maybe misinterpreted it and like I really care about some old swiss farmer who CLAIMS to have contacts with human aliens. MY point was that this is ALL played out to me and I really don't care about it anymore. Also you can THINK whatever you want about me and THINK whatever you want about how much I know. Like I stated before I DONT CARE who is right or wrong. Keep trying to prove your point and OH I am on a computer with internet I said most websites are blocked. Learn how to read.

-SAP-
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by SloAnPainful
Lol I said its possible that what you said could have been what I heard and maybe misinterpreted it and like I really care about some old swiss farmer who CLAIMS to have contacts with human aliens.

Yeah, you do care you say. And?


MY point was that this is ALL played out to me and I really don't care about it anymore.

Oh, so now you suddenly claim you don't care anymore. It seems you do care, since you comment on it.


Also you can THINK whatever you want about me and THINK whatever you want about how much I know.

You don't seem to know much, do you? So far so good you don't provide any source / link.


Like I stated before I DONT CARE who is right or wrong.

Are you really sure you don't care who is right or wrong?


Keep trying to prove your point and OH I am on a computer with internet I said most websites are blocked.

Let me guess, your boss caught some of his employees watching Porno from the Internet, and then your boss immediately removed the Internet from the computers!


I really don't believe you have access to only few websites, i think YOU HAVE access to all websites. If your boss really removed the Internet, then let me guess, you brought your own Laptop to your work!


Wait a minute... I have a much better guess: You're not at work!


Billy Meier UFO Case: Metal Samples, Crystals & Other Specimens from OuterSpace

And according to Vogel, the metal sample that was said to be given to Billy Meier is obviously produced via 'Cold Fusion'


The metal alloy samples are said to have been given to Meier by the Plejarens and then passed on to Wendelle Stevens who then had them tested by chemist Marcel Vogel. Vogel said that in his view the samples could not have been made by means of contemporary earthly metallurgy as they were apparently produced via cold fusion. Vogel also stated that the metal vanished from the IBM laboratory not long after his work was completed which prevented other scientists from performing their own analyses on it!

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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Lol I am at work. I do have a job despite what you may think. You assume a lot my friend. Also he blocks this stuff because I work for a company that has to have certain things that are restricted because of federal law. Once again though. I don't care and you can assume whatever you want about whom ever you want.

Still all in all A10 I do like most of your replies, even though you continue to assume things about me that are false. I am over this discussion with you. If you want to have a REAL discussion without the childish bickering I'm game otherwise no thank you.


-SAP-



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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I found a unblocked website.



Semjase: "... For the last time I trouble myself to explain that any contacts with other persons except you are totally impossible. The reasons are as follows:


Link



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by SloAnPainful
Lol I am at work. I do have a job despite what you may think. You assume a lot my friend. Also he blocks this stuff because I work for a company that has to have certain things that are restricted because of federal law. Once again though. I don't care and you can assume whatever you want about whom ever you want.

If your boss really blocked this stuff, then i don't think you would be able to post here...
Oh, let me guess, if we assume you're sitting in an office at work, then you're probably sitting on your office chair and keep an eye if your boss should stop by, but as long as there is 'Green light' you keep an eye on this website, you have not much work and you're bored, so that's why you have time for this 'sh!t'
Yeah, i know your colleagues or boss would call it 'sh!t', or say to you >>Don't you have better things to do? You're not employed in this firm to waste your time with this 'sh!t'...



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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Lol you pretty close. Yeah I keep an eye out for him but I asked him if I could post on ATS he didn't really care as long as I do get my work done, which I do. I make calls all day and take calls all day but I'm pretty caught up so I have a little free time and the boss is on vaction
. It's all good though I post while I'm waiting on my clients most of the time. Can't do much without them. Been kind of slow today.

Just to tell 'ya tho A10 I do like your input on threads so don't thnk I was bashing you or anything. We just don't really see eye to eye on this one thats all.


-SAP-



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by SloAnPainful
I found a unblocked website.



Semjase: "... For the last time I trouble myself to explain that any contacts with other persons except you are totally impossible. The reasons are as follows:


Link

Yeah, it seems this one is not blocked, and thanks for posting that link. It looks very interesting. And yes, it seems the Pleiadians prefer to be in contact with Earthlings who are more 'spiritually' evolved. And Billy Meier seems to be one of them, he also mentioned it's very important for Earthlings to maditate, so the more and more Earthlings to do meditation, the better. Pleiadians allegedly are vegetarians and more 'spiritually' evolved. Their homeplanet Erra is reportedly a little smaller than Earth, the gravitation force a little weaker, and can explain why Pleiadians are taller than Earth-humans.

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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by SloAnPainful
Lol you pretty close. Yeah I keep an eye out for him but I asked him if I could post on ATS he didn't really care as long as I do get my work done, which I do. I make calls all day and take calls all day but I'm pretty caught up so I have a little free time and the boss is on vaction
. It's all good though I post while I'm waiting on my clients most of the time. Can't do much without them. Been kind of slow today.

So you're allowed to post on ATS sometimes at work, just as long as you get your work done. Sounds realistic. And you make calls all day and take calls all day. Yeah, sounds like realistic work at office. Okay, i believe you when you say you work at office.


Just to tell 'ya tho A10 I do like your input on threads so don't thnk I was bashing you or anything. We just don't really see eye to eye on this one thats all.


Thanks for your kind word. Yeah, i find these stuffs interesting. I liked the X-files series with Agent Mulder and Dana Scully, and also find the real X-files interesting



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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Yeah I work in a office cubicle, not the best in the world could be worse.

Never got into X-files, although Star Wars did kick a*s. I'm a researcher of this stuff though. Pretty much anything sci-fi gets my attention. Good stuff though.

-SAP-



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by SloAnPainful
Yeah I work in a office cubicle, not the best in the world could be worse.

Never got into X-files, although Star Wars did kick a*s. I'm a researcher of this stuff though. Pretty much anything sci-fi gets my attention. Good stuff though.

I can recommend X-files the Movie , the X-files episodes. Yeah, the Star Wars movies did kick a*s. New Moon , and Breaking Dawn Part 1. Then there is Knowing (starring: Nicholas Cage) a good science fiction movie about human looking aliens comming to Earth to bring Earth-kids to their world, before 'the end of the world'. Then there is a list of other UFO/alien movies from this www.abovetopsecret.com... Yeah, good science fiction stuffs.

And here's cases www.abovetopsecret.com... of human looking aliens from the real world, among many other cases.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 06:13 PM
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[color='00CCFF']That's it. I quit these discussions for indefinite time. I'm not for long in conspiracy forum and I'm already sick if you both believers and deniers. Either some start incredibly stupid threads with videos or pictures and call it 'aliens' 'alien structures' or call everyone and everything a liar or a lie.

I'm not like these idiots who make a 'Aliens do not exist' threads in rage when they know nothing. I do think there has been engagement with other beings based soley on Data. You cannot call everyone a liar, everything that exists about it a lie. And while im not 100% certain about the whole ET stuff, Im more willing to think there is some truth based on that. Even if these are man made all, no one wakes up smarter 1 day and without help makes a technology as if from the future. Even if Germany were more advanced during WW2, they can't make such technology alone without help or reverse engineering of something found.

The point is, none of you are experts, you are nobodies and not into these things to claim how something is or is not or is it a lie or not. Like some pointed out previously, this is going nowhere, it's a waste of time, the same stories with no progress closer to the truth. I dont know what are some doing here for years speculating and fantasizing?

The truth will come whenever it's time for it, could be decades, could be a century, nothing will be revelead any time soon, no disclosures, stop posting pointless videos and Moon/Mars pictures
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posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by Imtor
Even if Germany were more advanced during WW2, they can't make such technology alone without help or reverse engineering of something found.


Ye of little faith in your fellow man.....

Why not? Why do we need reverse engineering? Things have not sprung up overnight though it may seem that way at times.



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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A-10....I will get to your many questions....but I will start with your question about my statement that there are actually 8 Stars that comprise the Seven Sisters of the Pleiades Cluster NGC 1432.....the Greeks recognized the Pleiades as the children of Atlas...the Titan condemned to hold up the Heavens....and Pleione...the daughter of Oceanus.

The Sisters names are...Alcyone, Asterope, Taygeta, Celaeno, Electra, Mrope and the sister in the center...Maia. ASTEROPE is a Double Star. And the blue hue sen as one looks at the cluster is a gas cloud.
Split Infinity



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:01 PM
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A-10....you have asked so many questions of me...I will go one at a time.

As far s a Shadow Govement and Brave Whistle Blowers and who assasinated who and why?.....these are all dirty little issues and secrets of Govermental Politics and Big Buisness as well as NSA and CIA contributions to World Stability.

Every letter or digit or asterisk...etc....as well as every piece of data either hardlined or cell or sat...reguardless of encription....is recorded, decoded, crossreferenced and studied by a system of the NSA. This Mega Billion Dollar investment in advanced Super Computers that LEARN....and there is two names for it....one the public gets....and one that is but a part of a far vaster system....and believe me....be glad WE have it and not another nation...their attemps at this type of listening....has been but many clumsy attempts.

These things have nothing to do with the Agency....but one thing is for certain....If IKE had not backed USAF General Curtis LeMay....and J.Edgar Hoover.....then FBI director....even though IKE was not yet President as Truman was in office....but if Hoover had his way....he would have used the Roswell Incident as a political lever and used it to force compliance with his agenda. Split Infinity



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:18 PM
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A-10...as far as what the Agency is both capable of and has been chartered to do or react...and this charter has only been amended ONCE...1991-1992....it is without contraint in action deamed necessary for the good of the whole...and that whole is all of us.

You may think this akin to one group being deamed....those who know what is best....reguardless of your Constitutional or Right of the individual in ANY other Country on Earth....well...that assesment is fairly SPOT ON!

I know....everyone will say....that sucks and they have NO RIGHT! But actually...they do. They are not listed or paid for or centraly located....this Agency or Protective System that exists on so many levels....othe levels don't know about levels.

This was why it was so important for something this big and widespread...although created in the U.S.and now employing oher countries....people of special skills....not to become corrupted by polotics. Who watches them?....our little out of town...Friends? Split Infinity



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:26 PM
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A-10...I am not privey to how a treaty was created....other than a reported probe was sent to a specific location for each side to gain understanding of concepts of Ethics on both an individual and intersocial level. Ethics as we undrstand....are not a relevent concept of their thinking. They are more....cause...effect....benifit...loss. And their concepts of loss as well as benifit are so Alien to what we expected. One thing that was understood....they were not the first Alien species to visit Earth. Split Infinity



posted on Dec, 9 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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A-10...as far as your statement...they tested implants and found them to be of E.T. origin....I KNOW you cannot provide proof on that statement. The implants called TAGS....are made of elements of molecular construction and matrixing that can be found right here on Earth.

Every single Tag that has been removed from a Human Body....stops broadcasting it's duel radio and whatever other advanced system of sending data. It only works when it constructs a ganglia of Human Nerve fillaments that are grown to both connect to it as well as to our nervous system in ways we can't understand. The TAG can also be remotely turned off.

All efforts to understand this tech outside certain groups....will...NEVER achieve any significant usable data. This is why I feel for ROSS! Split Infinity



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