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Originally posted by Prezbo369
Originally posted by Frira
I responded to what you wrote, and you respond, each time, by changing the subject. You provide no evidence-- no authorities other than "take a look on the Internet." You take a side, and digest only what fits your already made-up mind.
You are a moving target-- because being wrong doesn't matter to you-- as long as you can be on the offensive.
Enjoy, being offensive; it is the most you can hope for.
I can understand how hard it must be to have big portions of your worldview refuted, but it doesn't help your case when you continue to make false claims and dishonest statements.
You're fully aware of the evidence I have presented to you (remember the two links, one you referred to as 'interesting') but I'm not going to do your research for you, you're responsible for your own education.
Oh, and have a look at jmdewey60's post on his videos on geocentrism (thanks jm, interesting vids), they will be enlightening (try to ignore the fact that jmdewey60 doesnt go to your particular church, and you have never met him, as it's irrelevant), as I'm pretty sure he is a follower of Jesus
Originally posted by Frira
You have an opinion; whereas I have sheepskins on my brag wall which say I have an informed and academic opinion.
Originally posted by Frira
You read blogs which you have read and talked this over with some guy at the bar name Bob
Originally posted by Frira
whereas I have other sheepskins on my wall which states I am a professional theologian-- having read through mountains of texts-- both ancient and modern-- and understood them.
Originally posted by Frira
That is four sheepskins on my wall. That is a lot of books read, and a lot of professional work with other professionals. I get paid to consult and teach, and give seminars, do public speaking and write... and you still have your blogs with very small words because the blogger knows you don't own a dictionary.
Originally posted by Frira
When I was twelve, I was reading and writing at a post graduate (that is college) level. For years, my editors had to rework it so it could be understood down at an eighth grade level. That was because I got my start as editor for a prominent and prolific Christian Theologian. My real name appears in Acknowledgments of theological books written by others.
Originally posted by Frira
See that line break? When I write on the Internet, I keep in mind I have readers who only know the Internet, and so keep my "paragraphs" to one or two sentences. And yet, I can only dumb it down so far.
Originally posted by Frira
I only point this out for you because you are such a punk.
I thought about this question and how it might be answered but it is just something you have to figure out yourself.
Originally posted by WakeUpRiseUp
Prove god is real and that you dont believe in fairy tales.
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Theophorus
When someone doesn't agree with you... you resort to character assassination such as...
Try using some intellect...
or
spiritual growth? There you go again. Something that has no shape, no size,no anything can not grow. Boy, you are simply Hard headed.
Yes, i would call that being prickish... sorry if the truth hurts...
Lets take a look at "spiritual growth".... Since i bring nothing to the table
2 Peter 3:18,
“Continue to grow in the grace and knowledge of our savior, Jesus Christ.”
1 Peter 2:2
“As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby
And of course the parable of the mustard seed...
This is just from the bible... i could go through almost any religion and it will tell you your spirit grows as you experience life... It grows in knowledge, wisdom, and understanding of life.
I deal with people that insult me every day of my life.... at least they can't help it... on the other hand you can and chose not to... Thats being a prick... deal with it.
All you bring to the table is your opinion... I bring scripture from accepted texts... And i will toss some gnostic text in to the mix if its needed...
So next time you care to degrade someones character within a post...
Check yourself first
Originally posted by Prezbo369
You know you could of just shown me where I was wrong, and explained why, but instead you have lowered yourself to the lowest common denominator, throwing all of your claims into serious doubt.
* "nothing but arguments from ignorance."
* "do not and should be the products of any fully functioning brains. "
* "pretty ridiculous"
* "People are not killing themselves or each other because I may or may not exist."
* "These are all whats called arguments from ignorance,"
* "They convince only the dullest of minds."
* "This is a complete fallacy"
As proof goes, its the most water tight proof we have ever discovered, and proponents of evolution have indeed met their burden of proof.
read MOST watertight
for the same reasons they teach misinformation about evolution. It directly contradicts religious scripture, and nothing else.
That American Indian tribe was then probably exterminated during the following holocaust by the christian settlers.......
Originally posted by
Prove god is real and that you dont believe in fairy tales.
your using the term existence rather loosely. Material things can't put themselves into existence.( An atom cannot split itself.) Only the mind(spirit) can solicit the body (matter ).God possess all things in his own right. God is omni everything. For existence to be separate from God, God would not possess it.this is a contradiction as to gods nature. God is not in existence, he is existence.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Joecroft
How do you connect the two things, the existence of the universe, and the existence of God?
The general concept of a god is one who has a certain degree of mastery over the various aspects of the physical universe which directly effects the lives of the people who worship this particular god. I think this must be a modern invention, this idea of God creating the universe, not being something held by any of the ancients that I know about.
God is omni everything.
. . . wouldn't that deity have to be omni everything.
Originally posted by Theophorus
your using the term existence rather loosely. Material things can't put themselves into existence.( An atom cannot split itself.)
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Joecroft
How do you connect the two things, the existence of the universe, and the existence of God?
The general concept of a god is one who has a certain degree of mastery over the various aspects of the physical universe which directly effects the lives of the people who worship this particular god. I think this must be a modern invention, this idea of God creating the universe, not being something held by any of the ancients that I know about.
"From whence?" is answered by the mystery, "In the image and likeness of God."
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Frira
"From whence?" is answered by the mystery, "In the image and likeness of God."
The thing I am considering is the one-time existence of a non-person entity.
The thoughts (of this entity outside any sort of existence we can comprehend) became reality, and so it was "used up" like a salmon going to where it came from an egg and laid its own eggs and died. As part of that "spawning" we get all the spiritual entities but they are now connected with the physical thing that came out of just pure thought or whatever.
Each level of existence in the material universe has its own level of spirit beings. We are ones but have a vulnerability to the forces of the cosmos to where we really need a higher order being to assist us so we don't end up being stagnant or something where we can't fulfill any of our potentials, such as our own creating things, which seems to be this underlying theme that exists in all life forms.