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85-year-old 110 lbs grandmother strip searched at JFK Airport

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posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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What the hell is this world coming to, I mean really how was this elderly woman a threat to our country. The only threat I see is TSA. My God this could have been one of our mothers or grandmothers. Honestly can you imagine how this little old lady had to feel? Most of these elderly people already feel helpless and vulnerable because of their aging bodies.
www.nydailynews.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow"> www.nydailynews.com...
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posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 07:22 PM
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Although I don't agree with it, if they didn't do it ,Terrorist's ,Smugglers etc would just use 85 year olds to take stuff thru airport security.
Heck I hope that she sues and win's it is a horrid feeling being strip searched (Happened to me) but the guy's who had to do it to me, explained why and why they have to do it.
Just to point out they didn't find anything on me...

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posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 07:28 PM
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There are far more effective and noninvasive techniques. They caused the injury. You think trading security for freedom is a trade at all? I would lay anything I have that an attempt to hijack any plane in the US, be it with guns or knives, would end up in some dead hijackers by the time the plane landed.



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 07:28 PM
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If what you just stated was really true, then all over the rest of the world many bombs would be going off on planes all over the rest of the world but so far...nothing. The TSA are just the latest government way of letting you know who is really in control imho. Wait till they start doing roads, buses and trains...



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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And just why did they pick on this little old lady?
Why don't they do this to everyone?

There are no terrorists among We the People.
They are all in government.
Why do they continue to allow foreigners to come here?
Just how is it beneficial to bring in 3rd world illiterate Africans.
How are we benefited by giveing 5 years of tax free income to those Pakistanis running the Convenience stores?
Muslims have become the terrorists of choice (isn't that why we are warring in their countires), so why are we letting any of them in?



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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Hey hey Iam not saying they did the right thing, I really hope she sue's em, I know how it feels I wanted to sue the UK border folk too, I was so angry I looked into suing too but found out I didn't have a leg to stand on.
Also Yes I do think they are doing it far too often and it is just a way to show everyone who is boss, but if they did say "OK no more strip search's" some nutter will take advantage of that.
She will sue and win for the injury not the fact she was strip searched.
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posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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TSA spokeswoman Lisa Farbstein said a review of closed circuit TV footage from the airport shows “proper procedures were followed.”


I don't give a hoot if proper procedures were followed. If this was the proper procedure, then the procedures need to be reviewed and revised. "They were just doing their job" doesn't cut it in cases like this. Whoever is in charge needs to make sure their job and proper procedures don't involve injuring and/or humiliating people.



“My sock was soaked with blood,” she said. “I was bleeding like a pig.”

She says the TSA agents showed no sympathy, instead pulling down her pants and asking her to raise her arms.

“Why are you doing this?” she said she asked the agents, who did not respond.

The TSA claims the footage does not show any sign of the injury.

“Our screening procedures are conducted in a manner designed to treat all passengers with dignity, respect and courtesy,” Farbstein said.


How the hell is pulling down someone's pants dignified, respectful or courteous?




*deep breath*

Sorry I flew off the handle. Whenever I read things like this, it just singes my short hairs.



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by GoldenRuled
What the hell is this world coming to, I mean really how was this elderly woman a threat to our country. The only threat I see is TSA. My God this could have been one of our mothers or grandmothers. Honestly can you imagine how this little old lady had to feel? I am angry , you should be too!!
www.nydailynews.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">85-year-old woman may sue TSA after being strip searched at JFK Airport
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I'd wait for more information to come out, the TSA stated

"But the Transportation Security Administration said in a statement Saturday no strip search was conducted.
"While we regret that the passenger feels she had an unpleasant screening experience, TSA does not include strip searches as part of our security protocols and one was not conducted in this case," the statement read."

And having dealt with the TSA enough, I think this tends to be correct. One has to consider that some folks are prone to exaggeration (heck, look at most of the posters here ,))... In the article it even states the cut on the leg was from herself, so I'm withholding the whole TSA is evil incarnate post until more details come out.



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Strip searched was in the headline. Media propaganda? The skin tear happened when she complied with the TSA agent. To me, that says she would not have received it had she not been searched to begin with. Oops, double negative.



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by GoldenRuled
Strip searched was in the headline. Media propaganda? The skin tear happened when she complied with the TSA agent. To me, that says she would not have received it had she not been searched to begin with. Oops, double negative.


She is claiming she was strip searched, the TSA is saying that did not occur. More information is needed.



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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With all due respect, would you please tell us or show us where you got this information?



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by N3k9Ni
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With all due respect, would you please tell us or show us where you got this information?


Almost every other news account of this includes the TSA rebuttal, the one posted does not (but its the one Drudge report choose to use, so I don't think it was intentional by the OP)

If you search for 85 strip searched you'll find lots of copies of the story, this is the first one that came up for me:

www.sltrib.com...



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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OK.. they did say there was no strip search (surprise). The incident wasn't recorded, so it's pretty much her word against theirs. Maybe they should start recording these pat downs. If what they say is true and people are actually being treated with respect, then there shouldn't be any problem with recording it.



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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welcome to new palistien
where the future is bieng made today

yes lets record the strip searches especially the children......

then they can not record them and not send them to all our good friend in the TSA ....
just like we did with the exray scammer pics



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posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 11:21 PM
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The only statements I read were that 'proper procedures were followed' and 'the camera didn't show the injury take place.' But time should tell if this story gets enough attention. The link I gave was the only media source I could find that told the story. Apparently others have found different links telling of more details. I would appreciate them being posted. This detail seems to be the only thing in dispute.

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posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 11:25 PM
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You are right, this little lady is as vulnerable as they come from her photo. This is a very sad day in America. The skin is so fragile on elderly people and injuries sustained are going to look pretty bad as the picture above shows. Bless her heart, what on earth should she do?
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posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 11:38 PM
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Last time I traveled to the UK by plane from Holland I was asked to "Walk this way" by a Customs officer. Asked me the usual questions and then took out a special "tissue", wiped my bag with it and placed that tissue in a machine. Being naturally inquisitive I asked him what it did. He explained that the tissue was to pick up any minute residue of illicit substances which the machine then processed by "smoking" the tissue and analysing the gas that came from it. It took just a few seconds and I was free to go. No scanners, no pat down, no hassle. I asked what it tested for and he said it was "dialled in" to detect Cocaine on this occasion but could be used for other substances too. I was quite amazed at the little device. I thanked him and went on my way. It can be effective without having someone grope you or strip you.


PS Love the avatar. I grew up watching that fabulous show



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 04:39 AM
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Yup same place, I think when I got searched that wasn't invented yet so it was the old finger up me bum thing etc.
I think the reason why they pulled me was I was still off my box..



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by Zaphod

Originally posted by GoldenRuled
Strip searched was in the headline. Media propaganda? The skin tear happened when she complied with the TSA agent. To me, that says she would not have received it had she not been searched to begin with. Oops, double negative.


She is claiming she was strip searched, the TSA is saying that did not occur. More information is needed.


Maybe it's like Bill Clinton's quote about the definition of "is".

She probably considered having her pants pulled down, being stripped, but the TSA doesn't consider it to be a strip search unless a person is stripped naked.

Just a matter of opinion.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by N3k9Ni
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OK.. they did say there was no strip search (surprise). The incident wasn't recorded, so it's pretty much her word against theirs. Maybe they should start recording these pat downs. If what they say is true and people are actually being treated with respect, then there shouldn't be any problem with recording it.





There is no reason they should NOT be recorded for public record.. yet that is a two edged sword..because now they have access to videos of many people being put into a humiliating scenario.. and viola you have creepy porn for those who get off on it...all accessed by people who know how..or can share it safely...don't tell me TPTB don't have nutjobs that love watching people in humiliation...as they are stripped of their dignity and their clothes...as well as the 99 %er who happens to be a employee, and has a sic sense of humor , and cares little about who they violate in order to bring the home boys a few giggles.

I actually wonder if this isn't done happen already.... they just say they don't record it.... that way it can't be used against them.. but they have all of it on tape..somewhere... under a "national security" clause.



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