Herman Cains grass roots declare Ron Paul as their new candidate

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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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But I thought Cain was a zionist lickspittle and Ron Paul a USA firster.

It is strange that Cain supporters are shifting over to Ron Paul. Beware of strangers in the camp, they might just try to take over.




posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by YAHUWAH SAVES
I had seen an interview with Herman Cain where he was asked who besides himself would he be most "Afraid of" to be the next President if he was not. He had replied RON PAUL.... Now this was just a couple of weeks ago. A couple of things come to mind here:

1. Did he chose Ron Paul to be the most 'afraid of" because he saw him as his best competitor?


2. Is he endorsing Ron Paul now because he secretly thinks he would be the best leader?

3. Is he taking orders in endorsing Ron Paul with such an about-face turn from being afraid of him as a leader?

4. Is he endorsing Ron Paul not because he likes Ron Paul but to get back at those who he feels threw him under the bus who could have and should have actually endorsed him for president... does he feel backstabbed because the coverup on his past could have and should have been covered up as it historically is done for others who have run for president who had "their" support?

5. Is it possible that Herman Cain was "set up" and he only now realizes it and this is why the about-face?
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Umm, I love that you took your time to write all this out, but HC has not and will not support Ron Paul and frankly, I'm fine with that. I don't want that crooks support, but I wouldn't mind his supporters. lol



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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Yay, everyone vote for Ron Paul. He is actually in favor of declassifying UFO's and a whole host of other things that are only being prevented by money elites. (to distiguish them from actual elites, people who are useful or good at something other than having money).

I agree with everything Ron Paul says accept I think the FBI maybe could be kept around once trimmed. The IRS definitely is unconstitutional and needs to go. Government inneficiency is at an all time high.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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Well.. astrology is silly, and what is the point of bringing Occupy into this thread that is completely unrelated as you did earlier?



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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The time is approaching for the American people to have a say, for us to grab a hold of the wheel and steer this great nation back onto the road.

Good luck and godspeed Dr. Paul, we are with you.

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I think this has a lot to do with "Occupy".
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 04:38 PM
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I wonder what the MSM are going to dig up on Dr Paul to discredit him when it's his turn at the dial as the front runner?

I wonder if they will ever acknowledge that he's in front, instead of running stories and headlines about "second placed Newt Gingrich".



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by RSF77
The time is approaching for the American people to have a say, for us to grab a hold of the wheel and steer this great nation back onto the road.

Good luck and godspeed Dr. Paul, we are with you.

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I think this has a lot to do with "Occupy".
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It does, and I'll tell you why, because Obama is behind Occupy and this involves his campaign strategy as well. Astrologers are almost always very liberal and I've seen many astrologers pro Obama in their websites. Several predicted his win, and I just saw one who predicted his non-win. But that's only because she thinks the opposition will lose. In their blogs they usually see his win in a very good light.


This guy has even predicted an Obama win. He seems to think that the economy will be better and will help Obama get re elected. I don't happen to share that sentiment. I think the economy will get worse and worse as reality hits home, and I think war is coming too.

www.vedicnakshatras.com...
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by UFOMAN618
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Yay, everyone vote for Ron Paul. He is actually in favor of declassifying UFO's and a whole host of other things that are only being prevented by money elites. (to distiguish them from actual elites, people who are useful or good at something other than having money).



Thank god. That totally changes everything. I was not a Paul supporter before but when I look at the state of the world and our country and realize that he wants to declassify UFOs well where do I send all my money?



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

What is the need to be hysterical here? I posted something I liked and you called it silly. who started with the personal barbs here? I clarified the best I could. The best I can say anymore is you are just not "there". So how about just let it go?


Hysterical? Um...ok. whatever.

Listen. I do think it is silly. You apparently do not. Instead of quietly enjoying astrology on your own, you shared it. I was hoping you might take the time to make it seem not silly or even attempt to legitimize it a little. You must have posted it for a reason. I do not understand why people post things and then do not care if anyone is convinced or believes. Why bother posting it to begin with then if the only one you want to share it with is you?

Now, can you please explain the real world relevance of your post or are you just going to go on about how upsetting it is that I think astrology is silly?



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by eLPresidente
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You claim that this was all set up, where is the proof?

Is your proof perhaps the FACT that almost all of Cain's support base went directly to Newt Gingrich? look at the recent poll numbers. As Cains' scandal matured his numbers dropped and Newt's skyrocketed. If you claim Ron Paul is the one they choose, why didn't he get all of Cain's votes?

You do realize Herman Cain forums.com is not a large site, look at the amount of traffic and chatter they get on a daily basis. Barely any. You really think the admin of HCForums is that influential?

You tell us to stop playing their game. We're not, if we were playing their game we'd be rooting for Gingrich. The only one playing their game is you. You go around spreading fear that they are in full control, that we have no other choice but to do...absolutely nothing. Because I haven't heard a good alternative yet, just a bunch of 'I told you so' and 'you can't stop TPTB, they control everything'.


Ron Paul is not one of them, there is no proof, there aren't even any clues for us to come to these conclusions. Only speculation. Your claim carries as much weight as the thread on ATS claiming Ron Paul is the anti-christ. Or the ones claiming he is a freemason and illuminati even though it is well known he has absolutely zero connections to the CFR, trilateral commission, bilderberg and bohemian grove (like Gingrich).

You're not one step ahead of everybody, how you know the secret to the NWO and their strategies, nobody knows, except for them. What I know is is that they have no control over me and my actions, they can control corporations but they cannot control real, living, breathing, MEN.



Lastly, Ron Paul is AGAINST the UN, IMF, and WTO and any other organization that threatens our nation's SOVEREIGNTY. Can you think of anything more NWO than the UN, IMF and WTO?

So is Ron Paul (anti-globalization/pro-sovereignty) the chosen one by your all-powerful TPTB?

Or is Newt Gingrich (CFR, Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove) the chosen one?

THINK!
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Awsome post! Ron Paul is this countries last hope. Not making him the next president will be a failure to liberty itself. This man is a doctor and he understands why America is sick. He also has the cure.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by babybunnies
I wonder what the MSM are going to dig up on Dr Paul to discredit him when it's his turn at the dial as the front runner?

I wonder if they will ever acknowledge that he's in front, instead of running stories and headlines about "second placed Newt Gingrich".


This stuff confuses me.
Ron Paul supporters constantly say that he does not get enough attention or exposure and he does not get to state his views enough or present his ideas. While I do not disagree with that, it makes me wonder then how you become a supporter of someone you are still waiting to really hear from.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Great post and couldnt agree more.

I actually liked the ad because it doesn't get into his personal baggage, the wives, the cheating etc.

What it does do is expose Newt with regards to his flip-flopping lying ways regarding the issues. The aspect that I like the most is the fact that Newt pretends to stand for one thing but is happy to adopt the opposite stance if it involves $$$. Disgusting.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Algernonsmouse

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

What is the need to be hysterical here? I posted something I liked and you called it silly. who started with the personal barbs here? I clarified the best I could. The best I can say anymore is you are just not "there". So how about just let it go?


Hysterical? Um...ok. whatever.

Listen. I do think it is silly. You apparently do not. Instead of quietly enjoying astrology on your own, you shared it. I was hoping you might take the time to make it seem not silly or even attempt to legitimize it a little. You must have posted it for a reason. I do not understand why people post things and then do not care if anyone is convinced or believes. Why bother posting it to begin with then if the only one you want to share it with is you?

Now, can you please explain the real world relevance of your post or are you just going to go on about how upsetting it is that I think astrology is silly?



Oh, so now I have to enjoy astrology quietly alone because you think it's silly? I thought I still had free speech to enjoy astrology out loud? At least it's not hurting anyone.

Let me tell you what I find silly. I just went to your profile and found your post on how you think our Founding Fathers built socialism into the system.
I think more than a few would disagree.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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Any site that prominently features Michael Jacksons astrology chart as one of its main draws really helps me not see astrology as silly. Thank you. Thank you so much for that.

Astrology, Obama, OWS....hey do you know what the topic is?
Can you tell me why astrology has anything to do with THIS topic again?
I would like to know because as you just stated, two astrologers have two different predictions. That sounds totally sound science right there.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus


Oh, so now I have to enjoy astrology quietly alone because you think it's silly? I thought I still had free speech to enjoy astrology out loud? At least it's not hurting anyone.


Yeah that is not at all what I said. I am sorry if reading is an issue with you. I was not aware.


Let me tell you what I find silly. I just went to your profile and found your post on how you think our Founding Fathers built socialism into the system.
I think more than a few would disagree.
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More than a few would be wrong. I myself would wonder what you are doing trolling my profile.


The Constitution of the United States, drafted in the summer of 1787 in Philadelphia by some of the smartest men on this side of the Pond, proves this to be true. In that cherished document, the Founding Fathers demanded socialism. Section 8 of Article I, for example, empowers Congress “To establish Post Offices and post Roads.” That same Section also authorizes Congress “To raise and support Armies,” and even “To provide and maintain a Navy.” Although the text does not preclude privatization of these public institutions — indeed, they continue to include entrepreneurial elements to this day — the Framers understood that they would certainly have public, social elements as well. Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and John Adams — among others — all signed this document. They agreed that the new national government would facilitate communication and defense through taxation. They agreed that these essential services would not have to be purchased on the open market. They agreed that these services would not be limited to those who could pay fair market value.



Now see if you can get back on topic. The fact that you think there was no socialism built into this country is astounding but off topic.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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Sounds like wishful thinking by the Paulites.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by Algernonsmouse
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Any site that prominently features Michael Jacksons astrology chart as one of its main draws really helps me not see astrology as silly. Thank you. Thank you so much for that.

Astrology, Obama, OWS....hey do you know what the topic is?
Can you tell me why astrology has anything to do with THIS topic again?
I would like to know because as you just stated, two astrologers have two different predictions. That sounds totally sound science right there.





Michael Jackson? I don't know what you are talking about. Michael Jackson was nowhere on that page. Perhaps you found a different site somehow. Jackson is definitely not the main draw for Starfire.

But I see now you are defending your stance that establishing a Post office means the Founding Fathers were establishing a Socialist country.


Trolling your profile? It's called investigating. Would you blame me for wanting to see what your freaking deal is with the ridicule over astrology? I knew already there was a reason other than it just being astrology. She suggests communism isn't the answer at the bottom of the page and I think that's what's eating you up about it. And there is no Michael Jackson anywhere to be found either. But again, I wasn't looking for Michael Jackson and it would depend on what is said about his chart. Many astrologers profile celebrities.

Also Ron Paul himself is not a Socialist and neither is Herman Cain. I am not surprised that you are against both.

And please provide a link for your off-site text. I am really interested to know who is spouting that stuff. It has to be radical. Or wikipedia at best because they allow opinions to be displayed as factoid.

Perhaps you are also one of those people who read the "general welfare" statement to be "general Welfare State" lol


But you are right, there are others equally mystified by the Founding Fathers and think they were demanding socialism. Here is a healthy debate, but I'm quite disappointed Sodahead sported it.
www.sodahead.com...
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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Nevermind, I found the blog you got your quote from.


preesi.lefora.com...


and oh by the way, here is another little statement from the founder

Lucy’s necklace, omg. She’s so GLAM. And sad little Judy in that sad little outfit. Like something the Bieb would wear



But to read that blog, one would think that just to have a Navy means you are a socialist govt.
I thought you Socialists hated the military and all things warlike....
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by babybunnies
I wonder what the MSM are going to dig up on Dr Paul to discredit him when it's his turn at the dial as the front runner?


This breaking news just in Ron Paul is hard headed.
He may even be brainwashed cause for 30 yrs. he has not changed his stance.
This could be the most overwhelming evidence in his life.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by Algernonsmouse

Originally posted by babybunnies
I wonder what the MSM are going to dig up on Dr Paul to discredit him when it's his turn at the dial as the front runner?

I wonder if they will ever acknowledge that he's in front, instead of running stories and headlines about "second placed Newt Gingrich".


This stuff confuses me.
Ron Paul supporters constantly say that he does not get enough attention or exposure and he does not get to state his views enough or present his ideas. While I do not disagree with that, it makes me wonder then how you become a supporter of someone you are still waiting to really hear from.


ron paul has been saying the same thing for 30 so years. most of his supporters know everything there is to know about the man, atleast when it comes to politics and the law





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