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Iran moves from "Destroy Israel!" to "Destroy all the Jews!"

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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 06:13 PM
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Not the way you’re doing it, bud, with Native Americans connotations. It’s a jab at the US for invading and conquering Native Americans. I've seen it before. My father-in-law is Native American.

Like I said, you won’t see me doing it but…to each his own.




posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 09:58 PM
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Give me a break, you know that is NOT what I mean. No, they are not all crazy but the ones running the governments there clearly are. As for the average person, no, most of them are just people trying to survive like the rest of us. But people who are willing to possibly pull the whole world into a nuclear conflagration for the sake of a political agenda or ideology, what would you call that? I call it crazy.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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This thread is pathetic. Looks like people need to read the Talmud and see what the purpose of non jews or the Goyim's purpose in life is. The holy book which the rabbis in Israel preach everyday.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 12:22 AM
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Originally posted by disiswhoitb
This thread is pathetic. Looks like people need to read the Talmud and see what the purpose of non jews or the Goyim's purpose in life is. The holy book which the rabbis in Israel preach everyday.


Some examples might shed light?

Direct quotes would be better.

Not everybody even knows what the Talmud is.

Do they use the Talmud outside of Israel?



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 03:08 AM
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Wow! The hatred and ignorance on this website in regards to Iran ceases to amaze me. Some people never miss an opportunity to spread hatred & ignorance. Next time try harder and it would help if you actually had some semblance of truth to back up your blatant hatred & propaganda.

Jews living in Iran - Around 40,000 Jews live in Iran.


What Iran’s Jews say?

www.nytimes.com...

edit on 6-12-2011 by kindred because: video



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 05:17 AM
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Nice video


Too bad zionist msm would never permit it to be broadcast the the sheeple.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 06:17 AM
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You only have to watch the first minute and a half of your video to see why Iran shows tolerance for the Jews in Iran for the time being.

"It is, in fact, the cultural homeland of Judaism. There are more sites with Jewish history in Iran than there are in Israel."

Now, it would be hypocritical of Iran to treat them poorly and preach about how the land of Israel belongs to the Palestinians at the same time, wouldn't it? If we were to start seeing a larger influx of Jews migrating to Iran, we'd be seeing a much different outcome.

They have a much bigger problem with those practicing the Baha'i faith, which number 300,000 in Iran. If the Jewish population were to rise to this level, you'd see Iran treating them differently. Let's take a look at how Iran doesn't recognize those who practice this faith, shall we?

"Counting approximately 300,000 members, the Bahá’ís represent the largest religious minority in Iran. Nevertheless, they have been deliberately omitted from the list of the three recognized religious minorities mentioned in the Constitution and classified as “unprotected infidels” and “heretics” by the Islamic regime. Therefore, the Bahá’ís are considered as “non-persons” and have no legal rights or protection. Although the Bahá’í community poses no threat to the authorities, this minority has been continuously discriminated against and persecuted for the last 14 years. Its members have repeatedly been offered relief from persecution if they accepted to recant their Faith."

Those practicing the Baha'i faith are also denied property, employment, education, their pensions, the right to inherit or the right to assemble.

www.fidh.org...



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by Deetermined

Originally posted by dilly1
To understand the Islamic behavior towards the jews one must read the true history of the jews. The true history of the jews is basically hidden from mainstream history(purposely). The jews basically have three major phases where hatred towards them originates. I'll give you the short-short version.... The first phase is the jews during the Egyptian era. They weren't called jews yet, they were called Hycsos and they were war-like people that worshiped a war-like god. They were natural masters in military and politics. They consumed egypt and attempted to steel Egypt royal secrets, they didn't succeed(so it says) so they were forced out of egypt(exodus) and ended up back in palestine.


2nd phase- upon arriving to palestine, the hycsos massacred all women and children in palestine. Fast forward a bit,, Then the babylonians kidnapped the hycsos , and are relocated in Iraq ,they(the) hycsos adopted various babylonian mythology aspects. Once the hycsos left Iraq and were allowed to return to palestine they became for the first time Jewish. From this point forward the jews went thru a series of growing pains. First was the honeymoon stage . But then later interference from the west dismantled there way of life ,, where there numbers slowly started to decline .... By 700ad there just over 2million jews spread thru-out Southern europe and turkey ... But mainly spain, genoa and venice had majority bulk. By the 16th century there is only 400k jews in southern europe. The majority of these jews( called Sephardic jews) eventually migrated to central and south america. These jews are the direct descendants of the 12 tribes Abraham.

The 3rd phase- is the history of the Ashkenazi Jews. These are jews from Khazaria(modern day Georgia). These people were and still are very white, vicious war-like pagan people. They eventually realized the advantages of masking there true identity by adopting Judaism. They converted to Judaism in 750ad. Make no mistake Khazaria was powerful empire that controlled the Byzantine Empire. Khazars were pure White race where the word "Caucasian" came from a mountain range in Khazaria called Caucasus ..Main Stream history would never disclose this part of history. This empire was so powerful that they terrorized the Persian empire(and all surrounding countries) and prevented all muslim forces of expanding towards europe. Note: if it weren't for Charles Martel of the Franks and the Khazarian Empire ,Islam would reign thru out Europe..By mid 13th century the mongols(Genghis Khan) drove out the ashkenzai jews from khazaria and the jews settled in poland and mainly in germany. By this time the separdic jews settled in the americas ,,germany and poland had over 11 million ashkenazi jews. Very few separdic jews stayed in europe.


The majority of the jews in the U.S.,Europe and Israel are Ashkenazi Jews. They are in no way shape or form related to the 12 tribes of abraham. If anything they are a distant 13th tribe.

There is a great deal of additional information that I left out. There is so much content on these ashkenazi jews that has been suppressed by them ,that if all of it were to be written it would be an infinite post. These people are everywhere. If you were to use a symbolic animal for the ashkenazi jew it would be an Octopus. Literally


Iran and most muslims hate the jews and Israel because of the ashkenazi jew. They know the true history of the jew. the people occupying Israel are not real jews. Don't be fooled.


What have you been smoking??!! You have some serious homework to do!

Abraham's Children in the Genome Era: Major Jewish Diaspora Populations Comprise Distinct Genetic Clusters with Shared Middle Eastern Ancestry

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...





ASHG is another governemnt tool agency spreading more lies. You want to believe that crap go right ahead.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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Let's compare. Why don't you post a few links to your sources and let's see where you're getting your information from.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by The time lord

Originally posted by dilly1
reply to post by The time lord
 

I'm sure you mean well, but you have to read the true history the jews. Not saying all jews are bad people they are not. But the very elite jews are the true masters. You say jews are blessed and chosen,,,I'm willing to bet your a die hard christian. Which is why you have a high regard for jews. Even jews themselves don't regard themselves as high and blessed as yourself. I suggest you truly read the suppressed history of the jews(suppressed by them). The only disclosed history of the jews is jews being wiped out over and over. Haven't you wondered why the only thing we know about jews is about there canny ability of survival. How convenient.


I don't have any bad intentions it is a pity that 2 billion Christians are unable to visit in peace a place where their Messiah was born and rose from the dead like Muslims do Mecca out of self interest alone, the faith of the Christian nations are watered down only for foreign gods to lead them astray while in kindness they take their crosses down. Investigation of their faith in evidence is being halted in the process, many holy sites are oppressed from the world including Israel it self in fear.

I bet the Jews do not know themselves what power they hold if they decided to come together as a people and nation, there are non religious Jews who are quite successful without them being religious about it.

You must ask how convenient that the Bible does not hide the fact and expresses their fight for survival over and over again, one example is when Jesus born as King and was pursued even as a baby because Herod wanted to kill him before he became adult and anyone who was two years old and under, the same patterns are told over and over again from individual to national scale of such people because of God's covenant with them in which I have quoted already.

Recent history shows WW2 with how the Nazi's acted, is that a faked pattern? We know the Jews can be arrogant and stubborn but they have a mission to finish if they realise it or not.

Secondly the God of the Bible tells of how wrong the Jews have been in their conducts that is no secret it is plain to see and be read.

Today is no different; some leader up rises on the scene who feels like he needs to wipe Israel and the Jews off the map that is a pattern in itself.

Even if Israel became a Palestine nation I bet they would still kill each other anyway because Shiites and Sunni's and Kurds never got on and only in recent history Iran and Iraq were at war and now they are best friends as common enemies of America.

Then you have the Historical sites that are not just Muslim but of all faiths and many places and items are discovered all the time.

What does it mean for the world if Israel does not stand? It means we have to wait even longer for the return of the Messiah or Christ for Christians and the whole pattern will repeat it self.

It is said that two more prophets are said to arise in Israel as witnesses, so I guess other forces will try and stop that too. They will have power to shut up the sky and devour enemies with fire, so I guess any missiles heading their way will be burned up. I predict what ever missiles heading their way even nukes will be disintegrated and the only alternative will be soldiers to come by foot to invade future Israel.

edit on 5-12-2011 by The time lord because: (no reason given)



The Ashkenazi jews made sure WWI would include America into helping Britain defeat the Germans. If Britain promises to deliver Palestine to the jews.

When German delegates got a whif of this during the Balfour Declaration they new they had been screwed by their own countrymen. The Ashkenazi Zionist jews knew this would happen and aloud and sponsored anti-jew propaganda to escalate in germany and at the same time the jews,who controlled most of the media in europe/america spread anti-german propaganda. Even young hitler(quarter jew) was part of the Israeli Thule Society. WW2 was instigated for one simple reason(which is the same reason for WWl) to secure the Palestine's full territory for the jews. The Japanese were introduced so it wouldn't be so obvious ,, the only people benefiting from World Wars were the Elite Jews. Even the # 6million jews dead was a massive exaggeration created by the Ashkenazi jews. The # 6M was the exact # of unemployment in germany after WWl and Hitler created more than 6M jobs(I guess the best remedy is war,,,lol) . So after WW2 german moral and support for hitler was still very high. Media Jews magnets converted the famous # 6 million created jobs to 6million jews dead do to gas chambers. The Elite jews new right after WW2 they killed two birds with one stone. They secured Palestine and made the whole world afraid of talking or saying the words jew,holocaust and Nazi. Which its no coincidence the term Nazi came from Ashkenazi. Its a complete fabrication that Nazi truly stands for National Socialism. The elite Jews do not want any interference what's so ever , so if every goyim is terrified of speaking or questioning the holocaust or the legality of Israel , the Ashkenazi jews have succeeded.

Karl Marx- an ashkenazi jew who somehow invented communism

Karl Ritter- an ashkenazi jew who somehow invented fascism

Both sponsored by the an Ashkenazi Jew named Meyer Amschel Bauer. He later changed his last name into Rothschild.



When WW3 happens,and it will happen,, don't forget to notice who would be benefiting .



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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In all honesty, trying to point out who's really Jewish and who isn't is pointless.

Ahmadinejad's heritage is Jewish too, but his family converted to Islam in the 1950's.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by dilly1
 


Let's compare. Why don't you post a few links to your sources and let's see where you're getting your information from.



I'm not here to do a pissing match. Didn't know that was part of the agenda in a forum debate. All I do is read alternative history. I have no desire to learn anything from private or government funded websites nor any biased literature for that fact. And I can smell fabrication a mile away.


I know what is the truth. Your whole history has been a dam lie. But go right ahead and continue sucking on that red pill of yours.


Cheers



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by dilly1
 


In all honesty, trying to point out who's really Jewish and who isn't is pointless.

Ahmadinejad's heritage is Jewish too, but his family converted to Islam in the 1950's.





i agree , your right.. wow we agree



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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Don't forget Babylon like Palestine was under British Mandate Rule because the Ottoman Empire came to the end of its power, blame the Ottoman's for siding with Germany in WW1 and losing their power, no wonder Babylon and Palestine was open for discussion.

The Bible predicts this would happen, the world will be stirred up because no one is listening to his him, the Middle East will be stirred up because they are on the wrong side aswell they won't find peace even if the Israel was not there. I believe when Islam is concerned they are at war with everyone anyway, most of the world conflicts that are not even not based in the Middle East are Islamic people driving non Muslims out with violence and punishments in the style of Sharia Law for those who do not follow. This all stems down to Islam's quest to one day take over the world because that is part of it's mission of the faith.



World War I (1914–1918)
Mustafa Kemal (Atatürk) at the trenches of Gallipoli in 1915.The Young Turk government had signed a secret treaty with Germany and established the Ottoman-German Alliance in August 1914, aimed against the common Russian enemy but aligning the Empire with the German side. The Ottoman Empire entered World War I after the Goeben and Breslau incident, in which it gave safe harbour to two German ships that were fleeing British ships. These ships then—after having officially been transferred to the Ottoman Navy, but effectively still under German control—attacked the Russian port of Sevastopol, thus dragging the Empire into the war on the side of the Central Powers, in which it took part in the Middle Eastern theatre. There were several important Ottoman victories in the early years of the war, such as the Battle of Gallipoli and the Siege of Kut, but there were setbacks as well, such as the disastrous Caucasus Campaign against the Russians. The United States never declared war against the Ottoman Empire.

In 1915, as the Russian Caucasus Army continued to advance in eastern Anatolia with the help of Armenian volunteer units from the Caucasus region of the Russian Empire,and aided by some Ottoman Armenians, the Ottoman government decided to issue the Tehcir Law, which started the deportation of the ethnic Armenians, particularly from the provinces close to the Ottoman-Russian front, resulting in what became known as the Armenian Genocide.Through forced marches and massacres, the Armenians living in eastern Anatolia were uprooted from their ancestral homelands and sent southwards to the Ottoman provinces in Syria and Mesopotamia.
en.wikipedia.org...
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Had Israel not taken shape they would have as they have shown in the modern time still end up killing each other and driving out ethnic groups and killing them off in secret locations where you now have to dig them up to find them. There was never any peace under Islam, Islam kills other Muslims, Shiites and Sunni's can not even treat each other with the same level, one is always subdued as second class. Then even if Muslims are being Muslims some are not even Islamic enough and end up being killed anyway honour killings are just one example across Europe, it is all death and this will spread to the world concerning Islam and the evidence shows no matter where they are. There are conflics everywhere, in Taxi Cabs in schools in shops because it has to be their way or they get offended.

Had Israel not taken shape all those evil dicators would have risen and oppressed the Muslims further while the world bathed in freedom and wealth and sustainable climates instead of that 45 degree hell hole people live in.

As it is now that would have resulted in Muslims waking up from their veiled lives to cause these revolutions for freedom and basic human rights which is very lacking in the Muslim world, the people would have demanded UN help for democracy and peace.

Now if that occurred that means Christians and Jews would be allowed in Jeruselem or to Mt Sinai and other places for worship and tourism but even that would lead to suicide bombers putting them off, that would mean the situation would have been the same today anyway it would have made no difference. It is better to have Israel because it holds back the evil powers that would drift into Europe once again, am I saying Muslims are evil or are you saying the dictators are fair and tolerant leaders of that part of the world?


Ezekiel 34:13:
I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land.

edit on 6-12-2011 by The time lord because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by hmdphantom
reply to post by Deetermined
 


This is my second iteration to annihilate lies.

Every one knows that :

25,000 Jews live in Iran

Please , stop spreading lies.



There are no lies in my posts; check yours, Sir. Iran has refused to negotiate, so the covert action against Iran has been going on for months…but its now escalating as Iran inches closer to nukes. This covert action has one purpose and ONE PURPOSE ONLY…to destroy Iran’s nuclear capability because Iran has made far too many threats to be trusted with such power.


This is what Iran is bringing upon themselves all for the pursuit of nuclear weapons. Their unadulterated hatred for Israel and the west is driving them to their own demise. What a shame!



1. Iran was negotiating for years and this is the timeline :


Iran's nuclear timeline



2002

January - US President George Bush describes Iraq, Iran and North Korea as an "axis of evil", warning of the proliferation of long-range missiles being developed in these countries. The speech causes outrage in Iran and is condemned by reformists and conservatives alike.

September - Russian technicians begin construction of Iran's first nuclear reactor at Bushehr despite strong objections from US.
2003

September - UN nuclear watchdog, IAEA, gives Tehran weeks to prove it is not pursuing an atomic weapons programme.

November - Iran says it is suspending its uranium enrichment programme and will allow tougher UN inspections of its nuclear facilities. IAEA concludes there is no evidence of a weapons programme.
2004

June - Iran is rebuked by the IAEA for failing to fully cooperate with an inquiry into its nuclear activities.

November - Iran agrees to suspend most of its uranium enrichment under a deal with the EU.
2005

June - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Tehran's ultra-conservative mayor, wins a run-off vote in presidential elections, defeating cleric and former president Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani.

August-September - Tehran says it has resumed uranium conversion at its Isfahan plant and insists the programme is for peaceful purposes. IAEA finds Iran in violation of the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
2006
Iran hosts a conference denying the Holocaust [GALLO/GETTY]

January - Iran breaks IAEA seals at its Natanz nuclear research facility.

February - IAEA votes to report Iran to the UN Security Council over its nuclear activities. Iran resumes uranium enrichment at Natanz.

April - Iran says it has succeeded in enriching uranium at its Natanz facility.

31 August - UN Security Council deadline for Iran to halt its work on nuclear fuel passes. IAEA says Tehran has failed to suspend the program.

December - Iran hosts a controversial conference on the Holocaust; delegates include Holocaust deniers.

UN Security Council votes to impose sanctions on Iran's trade in sensitive nuclear materials and technology. Iran condemns the resolution and vows to speed up uranium enrichment work.
2007
Ahmadinejad confirms his country's ability to produce nuclear fuel on an industrial scale [GALLO/GETTY]

February - IAEA says Iran failed to meet a deadline to suspend uranium enrichment, exposing Tehran to possible new sanctions.

April - President Ahmadinejad says Iran can produce nuclear fuel on an industrial scale.

IAEA says Iran has begun making nuclear fuel in its underground uranium enrichment plant. It also says that Iran has started up more than 1,300 centrifuge machines.

May - IAEA says Iran could develop a nuclear weapon in three to eight years if it so chooses.

June - Protests erupt after government imposes petrol rationing amid fears of possible UN sanctions.

Iran agrees to allow inspectors to visit the Arak nuclear plant following talks with the IAEA.


read more on ATS

2.The ones who are bringing war on Iranian people are Iranian people old enemy , the MKO.

Please , search MKO on ATS and find for yourself.

Then you can see how every single Iranian know them as hisher old enemy. It is clear that they have been helped by Mossad. So , It is not Iranian people bringing war on Iranian people. The whole pieces of articles you provided me with is just a piece of propaganda to bring more sanctions on Iran.

As you can see , they are British government NEWS agencies ending domain in .uk.co.

UK company is just spreading lies and those students moved to occupy UK embassy knew it.
edit on 6/12/11 by hmdphantom because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by dilly1
 


In all honesty, trying to point out who's really Jewish and who isn't is pointless.

Ahmadinejad's heritage is Jewish too, but his family converted to Islam in the 1950's.


1. Where is your proof ?

2. Suppose you're right ( even with no proof ) , he is a converted . Is it bad to convert to Islam from Jew ?

What is the point ?

Please answer both questions .



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 12:04 PM
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by disiswhoitb
This thread is pathetic. Looks like people need to read the Talmud and see what the purpose of non jews or the Goyim's purpose in life is. The holy book which the rabbis in Israel preach everyday.


The 'holy' book that the Rabbi's preach in Israel and worldwide is the Torah (Jewish Law) not as you and your racist friends would like people to believe the 'talmud' which is just a discussion amonst Rabbi's, so lets clear that up! I know of NO synagogue (Jewish Temple) that teaches or preaches the talmud.

Secondly, Goyim/Goy does not mean what you think it means it just translates as (other) Nations or others (i.e. non Jews) it is not derogatory as you lead others to believe! It is so easy for neo nazi's and racist's to post lies about Jews on the internet and then they have their proven fake bible 'the protocols of zion' to fall back on, if you want to read fiction - Harry Potter is a better read and probably has more realism and fact than that nonsense!



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by The time lord
Don't forget Babylon like Palestine was under British Mandate Rule because the Ottoman Empire came to the end of its power, blame the Ottoman's for siding with Germany in WW1 and losing their power, no wonder Babylon and Palestine was open for discussion.

The Bible predicts this would happen, the world will be stirred up because no one is listening to his him, the Middle East will be stirred up because they are on the wrong side aswell they won't find peace even if the Israel was not there. I believe when Islam is concerned they are at war with everyone anyway, most of the world conflicts that are not even not based in the Middle East are Islamic people driving non Muslims out with violence and punishments in the style of Sharia Law for those who do not follow. This all stems down to Islam's quest to one day take over the world because that is part of it's mission of the faith.



World War I (1914–1918)
Mustafa Kemal (Atatürk) at the trenches of Gallipoli in 1915.The Young Turk government had signed a secret treaty with Germany and established the Ottoman-German Alliance in August 1914, aimed against the common Russian enemy but aligning the Empire with the German side. The Ottoman Empire entered World War I after the Goeben and Breslau incident, in which it gave safe harbour to two German ships that were fleeing British ships. These ships then—after having officially been transferred to the Ottoman Navy, but effectively still under German control—attacked the Russian port of Sevastopol, thus dragging the Empire into the war on the side of the Central Powers, in which it took part in the Middle Eastern theatre. There were several important Ottoman victories in the early years of the war, such as the Battle of Gallipoli and the Siege of Kut, but there were setbacks as well, such as the disastrous Caucasus Campaign against the Russians. The United States never declared war against the Ottoman Empire.

In 1915, as the Russian Caucasus Army continued to advance in eastern Anatolia with the help of Armenian volunteer units from the Caucasus region of the Russian Empire,and aided by some Ottoman Armenians, the Ottoman government decided to issue the Tehcir Law, which started the deportation of the ethnic Armenians, particularly from the provinces close to the Ottoman-Russian front, resulting in what became known as the Armenian Genocide.Through forced marches and massacres, the Armenians living in eastern Anatolia were uprooted from their ancestral homelands and sent southwards to the Ottoman provinces in Syria and Mesopotamia.
en.wikipedia.org...
Text


Had Israel not taken shape they would have as they have shown in the modern time still end up killing each other and driving out ethnic groups and killing them off in secret locations where you now have to dig them up to find them. There was never any peace under Islam, Islam kills other Muslims, Shiites and Sunni's can not even treat each other with the same level, one is always subdued as second class. Then even if Muslims are being Muslims some are not even Islamic enough and end up being killed anyway honour killings are just one example across Europe, it is all death and this will spread to the world concerning Islam and the evidence shows no matter where they are. There are conflics everywhere, in Taxi Cabs in schools in shops because it has to be their way or they get offended.

Had Israel not taken shape all those evil dicators would have risen and oppressed the Muslims further while the world bathed in freedom and wealth and sustainable climates instead of that 45 degree hell hole people live in.

As it is now that would have resulted in Muslims waking up from their veiled lives to cause these revolutions for freedom and basic human rights which is very lacking in the Muslim world, the people would have demanded UN help for democracy and peace.

Now if that occurred that means Christians and Jews would be allowed in Jeruselem or to Mt Sinai and other places for worship and tourism but even that would lead to suicide bombers putting them off, that would mean the situation would have been the same today anyway it would have made no difference. It is better to have Israel because it holds back the evil powers that would drift into Europe once again, am I saying Muslims are evil or are you saying the dictators are fair and tolerant leaders of that part of the world?


Ezekiel 34:13:
I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land.

edit on 6-12-2011 by The time lord because: (no reason given)



With all do respect,,, I think your faith in Christianity has clouded your view of islam.



But before I continue I want to explain to you what really happened in WWI. The only reason why the Turks united with Germany was the fact that Russia was in direct competition with Britain. So who was in the middle? The turks and germans. Germany was not anti-jew but the Germans had a somewhat firm grip on there country do to the existence of the german/austro royal family reigning in power. The jews controlled Britain because they controlled its central banking system(as for France and America). Russia would get involved in the Boer Wars in Serbia and South Africa which lead to the Bolshevik revolution.. Russia controlled there country and had no central banking system. That soon changed do the jews creating communism and the Rothschilds funding the Bolsheviks. Which lead to No more royal family and an iron controlled central banking system, germany had no other choice but unit with muslim turks. (Doesn't that seem odd , a german christian nation uniting with a muslim empire?? How strange)...The part of WWI that no one knows is Germany won decisively in the beginning. German subs were light years ahead in sophistication more than british royal subs. England was about to surrender and Ashkenazi jews from Germany promised England they could win with Americas involvement. On one condition that the Britain hand over Palestine to the jews. The British had no right to do this. But it happened. Israel is an ILLegaL country. No one ,with a decent heart, can accept this fake country existence.


Now back to the islam. Remember islam is somewhat 622 years younger than christianity. How was the behavior of christianity during 13th and 14th century.? Not to well. But with time Christians changed and so will Islam. With time. In addition islam became famous overnight. No other religion expanded as quickly as islamic faith. They were extremely educated and their technology was more advanced than any other european. BUT There advancements was there doom. They grew too quickly. Basically it went too there heads. And fighting the franks and Mongols at the same time took a major toll and they never recovered. To put in perspective islam's last hero was Saladin. He died in the 12th century.

Furthermore, the middle eastern mentality or behavior(been happening before way islam) is Extremely Aggressive and at the same time Extremely Insecure. And this mainly was the attitude in Arabia. Islam was just the flying carpet that would spread this behavior.


So its not that islam is evil; take away islam and create a new religion in Arabia and you would end up with something similar. Arabs love tradition, they hate change and Hellenistic people hate tradition and love to change as frequent has possible.

If you didn't know what's Hellenistic people ,they are you and I. Europeans.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by hmdphantom

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by dilly1
 


In all honesty, trying to point out who's really Jewish and who isn't is pointless.

Ahmadinejad's heritage is Jewish too, but his family converted to Islam in the 1950's.


1. Where is your proof ?

2. Suppose you're right ( even with no proof ) , he is a converted . Is it bad to convert to Islam from Jew ?

What is the point ?

Please answer both questions .




Its not bad and there is no point,,,, people convert for thousands of reason. Muslims and christians can inter marry without conversion as requirement. But inject Jewry into the scenario and rules are created. The goyim ALWAYS has to convert if he or she wants to marry a jew.

Now that is bad.




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