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Originally posted by boymonkey74
It's turning into the biggest game of "Chicken" the world has ever seen.....Are we going to let our world leader's destroy us by letting them all do this?
Originally posted by TheComte
reply to post by LiveToSpendIt
So, Zhang's China's version of Bill O'Reilly?
Conservative types sure do need their cheerleading clowns.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000It is only a matter of time when WWIII busts loose and these countries start dropping nukes to protect their "way of life" and islam is a prime candidate for this as the Quran supports murdering people if it is to protect the muslim way of life. The Quran also supports using lies and subterfuge to defeat an enemy. Add the 2 clauses together and what do you get? Nuclear war.
Originally posted by TheComte
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000It is only a matter of time when WWIII busts loose and these countries start dropping nukes to protect their "way of life" and islam is a prime candidate for this as the Quran supports murdering people if it is to protect the muslim way of life. The Quran also supports using lies and subterfuge to defeat an enemy. Add the 2 clauses together and what do you get? Nuclear war.
No need to be hypocritical. The Bible supports murdering people to protect the Jewish way of life as well (see The Golden Calf). The West has already bombed Afghanistan and Iraq to "protect our way of life." Also, the West uses lies and subterfuge to defeat their enemies. Using lies and subterfuge is part of war, and always has been.
Sounds like you're trying to bash Islam for doing something you don't agree with, yet I bet you agree with it when the Western governments do it.edit on 4-12-2011 by TheComte because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by OrionHunterX
China has also said that an attack on Pakistan would be considered an attack on China! We must remember that the Peoples Liberation Army has categorically stated that they consider the Communist Party higher than the Chinese government. It can thus be inferred that it is the PLA Generals who are the power centers controlling foreign policy and security issues and not the government.
The breakneck speed of militarization of China with fancy weapon systems including missiles, stealth aircraft, aircraft carriers etc is a pointer to this change in equations.
www.infowars.com
(visit the link for the full news article)edit on 2-12-2011 by OrionHunterX because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
I don't agree with killing anyone for any reason and if you even knew me or bothered to read any of my posts or threads you would know that i do not support anything my government does in regards to anything that involves any nation or killing people.
Also, i do read the bible as it has valuable information and lessons to be learned, but i do not follow the bible. I follow Jesus Christ and killing people and committing acts of violence are against his commands.
Like when he tore the ever living Hell out of the Temple marketplace
Moscow says Turkey and Qatar aiding Chechens
By John Daniszewski in Moscow
November 2 2002
Russia accused Turkey and Qatar of giving sanctuary to Chechen rebels, as officials released taped excerpts that they said linked militants who took over a Moscow theatre last week to the ousted Chechen president Aslan Maskhadov.
Pressing a diplomatic offensive to brand Chechen separatists as terrorists worldwide after the October 23-26 theatre takeover that led to at least 119 deaths among the hostages, Russia has already persuaded Denmark to detain a former Chechen deputy prime minister close to Mr Maskhadov on allegations of terrorist activity.
Until recently, Mr Maskhadov was the most likely negotiating partner for Russia in any talks to end the grinding three-year war in the separatist Russian republic. President Vladimir Putin has virtually ruled out negotiations.
A Putin spokesman, Sergei Yastrzhemsky, used a news conference on Thursday to put the spotlight not only on Mr Maskhadov but also on Qatar, which he said was sheltering another top Chechen figure, Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev, and on Turkey, which he said was allowing Chechen rebel groups openly to raise funds.
According to an excerpt of a taped phone conversation played at the news conference, the leader of the hostage-takers, Movsar Barayev, spoke to Mr Yandarbiyev in Qatar. In the conversation, Barayev said that "Aslan" knew about the plans to seize the theatre where the musical Nord-Ost was being staged. Only three brief excerpts were played, however, and there was no way to verify the Government's interpretations, including that Barayev was referring to Mr Maskhadov.
The Chechen detained in Copenhagen, Akhmed Zakayev, was in Denmark to attend a congress on Chechnya that had infuriated the Kremlin. The Danish Government agreed to hold him on an Interpol warrant as Russia initiated a formal extradition request on Thursday.
Mr Zakayev has denied any link to the hostage-takers: "Neither President Maskhadov nor any of our official representatives are in any way connected," he said before his arrest. Rather, he blamed Russian policy in Chechnya: "Every day of war, every day of punitive measures, leaves dozens of lone avengers who cannot be controlled by Maskhadov or anyone else."
www.smh.com.au...
Doku Umarov is also very closely connected to Brigadier General Ruslan Saidov (head of the Istanbul Bureau of the External Agencies of the Republic of Ichkeria & the FAR WEST LTD, a front company based in Dubai). Ruslan Saidov was himself closely connected to the late Turki bin Faisal, who was the head of Saudi Intelligence & ambassador to the US. Saidov was also actively associated with al-Walid who was the Saudi intelligence operative in the Caucasus (Anton Baumgarten, editor of Left.ru). Last September, Russian-backed Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov said that he had good reason to believe the US and Britain were covertly aiding the Chechen rebels: "We are fighting U.S. and British special services in the mountains.” (Reuters) Further is the case of Rizvan Chitigov, the number three man in the Chechen insurgency. He was known as "the American", because he had lived in the US for years & "Marine" because he is said to have been trained & graduated from an elite subversive and reconnaissance school and had signed on to the marine squad. According to the Moscow News, "Chitigov had a green card — a permanent residence permit in the U.S." The Russian government openly accused him of being a CIA agent. Aleksandr Zdanovich, head of Russia’s Federal Security Service Directorate for Cooperation Programmes, told "Russia Today", "Rezvan Chitigov, who I have named and whose photo I have shown you from the computer, lived in the USA for a long time. There are very serious grounds for suspecting him to be a CIA agent.” American & Saudi presence in the North Caucasus region, as well as the deep Israeli presence in Georgia & Turkmenistan, have a measure of great strategic depth, more than sufficient enough to cause a major upheaval or a crisis for Moscow, whenever the need arises for Washington DC, Tel Aviv, London or Riyadh.
www.countercurrents.org...