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Originally posted by camaro68ss
I guess im going to learn what its like to live in germany in 1938.
(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.
Originally posted by purplemer
Originally posted by biggmoneyme
who ever voted in favor of this needs to be hunted down and shot immediately.
I would not say that if I was you and I live in the US with this bill passing. It sucks but it looks like at the very least you will end up on a list...
Originally posted by dreamingawake
Yup seen that...
Pretty sickening how 93 of them are for it. In my region only OR was against it...wow.
Originally posted by sporkmonster
You can see here at www.senate.gov that it has passed.
The link also includes how the senators voted.
Originally posted by xuenchen
If S1867 is primarily a defence spending bill,
why is it that we see unrelated and semi-related items inside?
can someone explain the reasons they do this?
why not seperate bills for the side issues?
it must be to keep people confused and unaware of hidden agendas.
Originally posted by TheShovel
[In regard to the debate over whether or not S.1867 applies to U.S. Citizens]
Christopher Anders, senior legislative counsel of the ACLU, explains the problem.
“The exclusion on Section 1032 only applies to 1032. It doesn’t apply to 1031,” he says. “And that only makes it worse, because any judge is going to say, ‘Of course, members of Congress meant for American citizens to be detained because if they didn’t, they would have put in the exception they put in one section later.’ ”
(b) COVERED PERSONS.—A covered person under this section is any person as follows:
(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.
(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.
(e) AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to
the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.
“I'm very, very, concerned about having U.S. citizens sent to Guantanamo Bay for indefinite detention.” - Sen. Rand Paul in response to S.1867