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reply posted on 3-12-2011 @ 02:35 PM by ImmortalThought
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You can check it out here: www.abovetopsecret.com...
Swing by and discuss since you have seen it already.
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Swing by and discuss since you have seen it already.
reply posted on 3-12-2011 @ 02:39 PM by romanmel
reply to post by poet1b
You are comparing real GDP in the 1950's to highly manipulated GDP in the more recent years...
www.marketoracle.co.uk...
Comparing the national debt to any one item is BigGov's way of covering the fact that we are in deep doodo.
The fact remains we have NEVER paid down the actual national debt, just increased it about every 15 months on average. What credit card company would allow a consumer to do that. Of course they can and do print their own funny money to make it look like they are richer.
Why is it that a 1963 Corvette cost about $5,000 in 1963
and the same Corvette costs about $55,000 today?
With the money (silver coins) of 1963, that $5,000 in silver coins would be worth $117,500 today.This is the true picture of what debt and BigGov printing of paper money does to the value of real money.
You are comparing real GDP in the 1950's to highly manipulated GDP in the more recent years...
www.marketoracle.co.uk...
Comparing the national debt to any one item is BigGov's way of covering the fact that we are in deep doodo.
The fact remains we have NEVER paid down the actual national debt, just increased it about every 15 months on average. What credit card company would allow a consumer to do that. Of course they can and do print their own funny money to make it look like they are richer.
Why is it that a 1963 Corvette cost about $5,000 in 1963
and the same Corvette costs about $55,000 today?
With the money (silver coins) of 1963, that $5,000 in silver coins would be worth $117,500 today.This is the true picture of what debt and BigGov printing of paper money does to the value of real money.
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reply posted on 3-12-2011 @ 03:03 PM by poet1b
reply to post by romanmel
That's because silver is currently over inflated.
The U.S. gov isn't in nearly as deep of doo doo as the ICBs. The derivatives market outstanding bets make the U.S. fed gov debt look tiny.
Real wealth is created by labor and ideas, ideas/technology/innovation being by far the greatest creator of wealth, and the U.S. still has the lead, and the most potential.
The biggest problem in the U.S. and the world economy is the ICBs. It is not just a U.S. problem.
Stop trying to blame the U.S. gov for the failures of the International Corporate Bankers, who are the ones who have screwed everything up.
That's because silver is currently over inflated.
The U.S. gov isn't in nearly as deep of doo doo as the ICBs. The derivatives market outstanding bets make the U.S. fed gov debt look tiny.
Real wealth is created by labor and ideas, ideas/technology/innovation being by far the greatest creator of wealth, and the U.S. still has the lead, and the most potential.
The biggest problem in the U.S. and the world economy is the ICBs. It is not just a U.S. problem.
Stop trying to blame the U.S. gov for the failures of the International Corporate Bankers, who are the ones who have screwed everything up.
reply posted on 3-12-2011 @ 03:15 PM by romanmel
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by romanmel
Stop trying to blame the U.S. gov for the failures of the International Corporate Bankers, who are the ones who have screwed everything up.
Who do you think OWNS the FED? It is those International Corporate Bankers. They call the shots in this country. They OWN this country.
George Carlin said it best:
reply posted on 3-12-2011 @ 03:29 PM by poet1b
reply to post by romanmel
The Fed Res controls the currency, but it does not own the country.
Considering that all the money is nothing but a claim of debt, with very loose ties to actual property, it is a joke to claim they own the country.
All indications are that the ICB are so deeply in debt, nothing can save them at this point. They are at the bottom of the Mariana Trench, in the deepest blackest crushing hole of Davy Jone's locker.
The Fed Res controls the currency, but it does not own the country.
Considering that all the money is nothing but a claim of debt, with very loose ties to actual property, it is a joke to claim they own the country.
All indications are that the ICB are so deeply in debt, nothing can save them at this point. They are at the bottom of the Mariana Trench, in the deepest blackest crushing hole of Davy Jone's locker.
reply posted on 3-12-2011 @ 03:51 PM by romanmel
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by romanmel
The Fed Res controls the currency, but it does not own the country.
Considering that all the money is nothing but a claim of debt, with very loose ties to actual property, it is a joke to claim they own the country.
I never said the Fed ownes the country. The Banksters own the country and the Fed does their will as does the figurehead Pres. and the bought and paid for Congress. The Dummycrats and the Republithugs are one and the same...and voting is an opiate designed to make you believe you have control.
Nevertheless, time will tell.
It won't take long. The Euro will fail in the next few days/weeks...watch what happens then.
reply posted on 3-12-2011 @ 05:11 PM by dr treg
Originally posted by relyt
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
Well here is Germany and Zimbabwe's charts for ya and they do not look good.
German Hyperinflation
Zimbabwe
Also here is a good video from Chris Martenson to also explain what we are going through right now.edit on 2-12-2011 by relyt because: (no reason given)edit on 2-12-2011 by relyt because: misspell of video author
The solution is in the problem
en.wikipedia.org...
reply posted on 3-12-2011 @ 05:37 PM by eldard
reply to post by poet1b
Brazil is doing better these days because of the discovery of oil. Nothing else. They contribute nothing to the world but hot models.
Brazil is doing better these days because of the discovery of oil. Nothing else. They contribute nothing to the world but hot models.
reply posted on 4-12-2011 @ 07:47 AM by poet1b
reply to post by romanmel
Banksters, Fed Res, Investment markets, they are all the same. All their wealth is based on a promise to pay, that they can't collect on, most of which is nothing but gambling bets placed on gambling debts. They don't own squat.
This game has been played out over and over again, since before Christ tipped over the tables of the money exchangers.
The liars, cheats, and propaganda artists always try to say that the bankers/wealthy elites can not be be beaten, but history is the story of the masses overthrowing the elites, time and time again, since the days of Summer, and before then.
Each time the wealthy elites loose, the world becomes a better place, and this next dance will be no different.
Banksters, Fed Res, Investment markets, they are all the same. All their wealth is based on a promise to pay, that they can't collect on, most of which is nothing but gambling bets placed on gambling debts. They don't own squat.
This game has been played out over and over again, since before Christ tipped over the tables of the money exchangers.
The liars, cheats, and propaganda artists always try to say that the bankers/wealthy elites can not be be beaten, but history is the story of the masses overthrowing the elites, time and time again, since the days of Summer, and before then.
Each time the wealthy elites loose, the world becomes a better place, and this next dance will be no different.
reply posted on 4-12-2011 @ 08:06 AM by poet1b
reply to post by eldard
Wrong again!
Brazil's current success has far more to do with getting away from the ICBs, you're just blowing hot air.
In addition, they figured out that sugar is a very efficient source of ethanol.
The ICBs hate bio-fuel, because they can't control it.
Wrong again!
Brazil's current success has far more to do with getting away from the ICBs, you're just blowing hot air.
In addition, they figured out that sugar is a very efficient source of ethanol.
The ICBs hate bio-fuel, because they can't control it.
reply posted on 4-12-2011 @ 08:18 AM by poet1b
reply to post by subtopia
You are starting to get it. U.S. economic success is because of its high productivity and technological innovation. That comes from the people, not the bankers or the elites.
Odds are slim that we will not drop into a deflationary down spin. That is what the graphs show.
You are starting to get it. U.S. economic success is because of its high productivity and technological innovation. That comes from the people, not the bankers or the elites.
Odds are slim that we will not drop into a deflationary down spin. That is what the graphs show.
reply posted on 4-12-2011 @ 04:50 PM by CharlesMartel
reply to post by camaro68ss
A chart, I'd like to see is from start of Social Security until present on a monthly or quarterly basis:
Series 1: Number of people with active Social Security numbers.
Series 2: Number of people receiving Social Security retirement or disability benefits.
Series 3. Total wages paid.
I never expect to see such information, because it would tell us when the Labor Department is lying about the Unemployment Rates.
A chart, I'd like to see is from start of Social Security until present on a monthly or quarterly basis:
Series 1: Number of people with active Social Security numbers.
Series 2: Number of people receiving Social Security retirement or disability benefits.
Series 3. Total wages paid.
I never expect to see such information, because it would tell us when the Labor Department is lying about the Unemployment Rates.
reply posted on 5-12-2011 @ 04:48 PM by eldard
reply to post by poet1b
YOu do realize that they've been using sugar for decades and it's only recently they got slightly better. They're still a banana republic through and through. And oh, you're still economically deluded.
YOu do realize that they've been using sugar for decades and it's only recently they got slightly better. They're still a banana republic through and through. And oh, you're still economically deluded.
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