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nov·el/ˈnävəl/ Noun: A fictitious prose narrative of book length, typically representing character and action with some degree of realism.
Originally posted by Viking9019
The Bible has a lot of stuff in it that are facts and on top of that many other religions say the same thing as the Bible in many ways so i don't think its being used as a tool.
Originally posted by VraxUK
The Bible has always interested me, coming from a strong Roman Catholic family aspects of it has always been in my life, my grandmother used to read me little passages and what not when I was a kid, but as I've gotten older, it seems as if to me, the whole thing is just a tool for capitalism and fear.
Just so you know, I don't hate religion, it was the inspiration for some of the greatest evens and buildings in history, but it also accounts for a lot of the bloodshed and a lot of the fear and hate which still remains today, so has it gone to far?
The Bible has been knocking about for years now, but when the first pages where being written, it was more than just a few years. Imagine all the strange gods tribes people had, all the weird and wonderful beliefs they had. Beliefs evolve, break away, differ and mould people. So I pose the question, if people believed dragons and woodwose existed only 1000 years ago, what abstract things were they coming up before this? They could have been the ramblings of a drunkard?
Proof is a problem I've always struggled with. If God was proven to be a figment of the imagination of some ancient novelist...
... all this belief and faith that people had, what was it? The power of suggestion?
I always get this vibe around strong religious communities, its a strange one. People say "God talks to me", it is "Allah's will for me to walk this path" and so on and so forth. Has the divine almighty really ever done anything to influence them?
That brings me back to this vibe, individually saying "god reached out to me" is fine, everyone in a Church believes you, but imagine the day, if it ever happens, that God is proven to be an abstract tangent of human dependence, everyone then knows everyone else was lying, or everyone else was crazy.
We love stories, and I'm sorry, someone try and explain to me why these series of books have to be taken literally. We are living in an age now, where we have to start really assessing what has done us more good, Science or Religion.
Originally posted by VraxUK
reply to post by Frira
The pure fact you referred to my actions as "bashing religious persons" is completely wrong, if you took it the wrong way I do apologise. A few things I'd like to point out on my behalf:
1) I know the bible wasn't written by an "ancient novelist", I was merely making a point, you say it was written by many people, perhaps you could tell me as I guess you know the authors very well, and you could vouch for their credibility. You know what they say, deny ignorance.
2) You seemed to have taken this in a very defensive matter, most Christians, Muslims and who ever else I know, would rather than being negative, share their point of view in a positive way. Perhaps you could try and enlighten me.
3) I was clearly stating an opinion, take it in which ever way you would like but please don't take it badly. Even if my knowledge isn't as vast as yours on the subject, I am not dumb, just not informed, so please remember to maintain your dignity, decorum and manners my friend.
In addition to your Logic 101 lesson, which I thoroughly..... found depressing. I'll try and give you my take on logic 101; until its proved, its unproven. If it can't be proven, no one knows for sure. Which means there is no credibility. Being unprovable leaves it as a concept, loved in many cases, enjoyable, aesthetically pleasing, but not quite there in terms of reality.
As for religious experiences, how about you share some of them with us?