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Originally posted by Sci-Fi_entist
I'm of a mind that none of you can prove any of your claims, either for or against the OP. Unless that is, you somehow create time travel and go and see for yourselves what really happened...
So uh... why don't you get on that then... I'm kinda curious.
"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men....when thou prayest, enter into thy closet and when thou has shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret...."
Live your life morally, don't judge others for the lifestyles that don't affect you, be humble, teach your children to hold these values, and by all means, keep church in the closet where it belongs.
Originally posted by arpgme
Mithra was NOT born of a virgin like Jesus, he was born from a ROCK!
Originally posted by halfoldman
There certainly were a lot of semi-divine births in ancient times, supposedly including "special" and powerful people like Romulus, Alexander the Great, Plato and Caesar Augustus.
A virgin birth of Immanuel is also mentioned in the Greek translation of the Old Testament. Although this was arguably based on a mistranslation of the Hebrew word for a "young women", Christian apologists would say this foretells the birth of Christ, while critics would point out that the authors of the New Testament tailored their narrative to fit their reading of the Septuagint.
While all semi-divine births were unique to a specific tradition, what is common to all of them them is that people who are both divine and human acquire their divinity from the human father, and their humanity from their human mother.
Hence Christianity wasn't copied from earlier pagan religions as such; like all the semi-divine birth-myths it was unique to it's time and place. What is for sure is that it lived up to the understandings and expectations of the time, in which all important politicians and philosophers claimed semi-divine births. Origin even defended the ordinariness of the Christian faith, in light of the fact that it also had a semi-divine birth, just like all "good people" from regular religions believed back then.
So a specific "virgin birth" is rather unique to Christianity (and I won't go into Eastern faiths here, but stick to the cosmopolitan multiculturalism of the Greek and Roman world), but it fits into the common pattern of a semi-divine person having inherited his divine attributes from a divine father, and his human attributes from a human mother.
Originally posted by britelite1971
reply to post by dalan.
You atheists never cease to amaze me. When someone posts a thread about christianity you are drawn right into it. Nice witnessing to you! Enjoy!