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....even though many people around the world currently mix and match whatever religions they want to form their own "spiritual truth."
Isn't that what we are supposed to do, friend? Case in point here. My religion. It is like a favorite jacket that I have had for a long time, it is an old friend when it becomes cold. It fits me perfectly. I can take it off any time I want, or put it on any time I want. My jacket will not fit you, nor would I ask you to try it on, or wear it as I do.
The religion some of you in here practice is cult like in every way. All have to do the same, think the same, talk the same, be the same. That's Borg, friend, and I want no part of it. I do not hate Christians, or Muslims, or anyone else. I just do not like Establishments. And I do not like book religions. Book can, and are changed, all the time. New Living Translation EXPOSED!
Originally posted by Mykahel
reply to post by autowrench
Just thought I should correct a few mistakes there.
Firstly, there are over 2 Billion Christians in the world and about 1 Billion Muslims. That's 3 BILLION people that believe Jesus walked on the earth, not a "couple million."
Secondly, the books in the New Testament, which were composed of numerous different authors, report the life, words and deeds of Jesus. These were later collected to form the canonized New Testament. In addition to the Christian sources, there are Jewish ones and secular ones as well. The Jewish historian Josephus and Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus both attested to the life of Jesus as well. These have been mentioned before. If you have not seen the evidence by this point, it is because you refuse to look at it or deny it for your own reasons, but to claim the evidence isn't there is a pure falsehood. At least be honest and simply say that you don't accept the evidence that exists.
I have no idea what you are talking about as far as Josephus being a fraud. None of the research I have done on hims have indicated as such.
Consider the following list. These are the historians and writers who DID live within Christ's alleged lifetime or within a hundred years of it, after the time:
Pliny the Elder
Pliny the Younger
Justus of Tiberius
Theon of Smyran
Yet, aside from two FORGED passages in the works of a Jewish writer mentioned above, and two disputed passages in the works of Roman writers, there isn't ANY mention of Jesus Christ. At all.
Originally posted by britelite1971
reply to post by dagon
Seriously! This thread was quite a while ago but that's okay we'll just go ahead and resurrect it. Lol. Anyway I'm not the expert religion guru but I can tell you that as many non-christians celebrate "Christmas" as christians. Maybe you can ask them or store owners. My best guess is that it costs more money to buy people gifts than it does to buy them chocolate bunnies. As for the rest of your questions, I really don't know. Perhaps you should contact a priest or a minister. Best of luck!
Originally posted by arpgme
By the way, the lady that created Zeitgeist is a Satanist wanting to get rid of Christianity and create a Utopian world. Doesn't that story sound familiar like the book of revelations?
Simon of Peraea
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Simon of Peraea or Simon son of Joseph was a former slave of Herod the Great who rebelled and was killed by the Romans in 4 BC. He has been identified as the messiah of Gabriel's Revelation. He is mentioned by Flavius Josephus.
According to Josephus...
[The commander of Herod's infantry] Gratus joined himself to some Roman soldiers, took the forces he had with him, and met Simon. And after a great and a long fight, no small part of those that had come from Peraea (a disordered body of men, fighting rather in a bold than in a skillful manner) were destroyed. Although Simon had saved himself by flying away through a certain valley, Gratus overtook him, and cut off his head."
A tablet, known as the Gabriel's Revelation or The Jeselsohn Stone, was likely found near the Dead Sea some time around the year 2000.
It has been associated with the same community which created the Dead Sea scrolls and mentions Simon. Israel Knohl reads the inscription as a command from the angel Gabriel "to rise from the dead within three days".
He takes this command to be directed at a 1st century Jewish rebel called Simon, who was killed by the Romans in 4 BC.
In Knohl's view the finding "calls for a complete reassessment of all previous scholarship on the subject of messianism, Jewish and Christian alike".
In 2009 the National Geographic Channel aired The First Jesus? which addressed the claims and controversy.